fatso
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Overly inflammatory imho
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Overly inflammatory imho
rob9872
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Not sure of that, but thanks .... I think
Tbh I think I'd go hung at smaller odds than coalition. I realise it's Labour this time but the last one did them so much damage and they're only just recovering. Personally I'd assume an agreement where a few concessions are made for regular voting alongside them than a formal coalition.
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Last time was as much abandoning a couple of key policies for a stab at power though, and they'd built their base under Kennedy in particular as being left of Labour on taxation etc, and targeted student areas for their votes too... who weren't pleased at the tuition fees policy being scrapped!!Not sure of that, but thanks .... I think
Tbh I think I'd go hung at smaller odds than coalition. I realise it's Labour this time but the last one did them so much damage and they're only just recovering. Personally I'd assume an agreement where a few concessions are made for regular voting alongside them than a formal coalition.
Last time, Labour and Lib Dem were a better match if there was going to be a coalition, but Brown and Clegg didn't get on. This time? Fuck knows what the Lib Dems stand for(!) but I couldn't see it being as disastrous for them if they went into a Labour coalition as their last effort was.
Ultimately depends how many seats they get too, even if a hung parliament it'd be hard to justify a coalition if they only had 9-10 seats. 20-ish+ and it's another matter.
fatso
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The danger could be that the anti tory vote gets split.Not sure of that, but thanks .... I think
Tbh I think I'd go hung at smaller odds than coalition. I realise it's Labour this time but the last one did them so much damage and they're only just recovering. Personally I'd assume an agreement where a few concessions are made for regular voting alongside them than a formal coalition.
David O'Day
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yeah a hung parliment is a lab/lib coalition
David O'Day
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if the locals voting carries over they will have more than 20 seats
rob9872
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Doesn't have to be a formal coalition though and I think the smaller price is a much safer bet.
Ian1779
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What odds on a Lab/Con coalition if Starmer gets to be the top guy?
Reckon he’d be all over it.
rob9872
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I'm sure he would and I assume with largest party he'd be pm regardless, its more whether the lib dems would risk it (imo)
clint van damme
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I can't understand why there's such a disparity in odds,unless they're thinking of someone else being part of the coalition but that would then be shoeter odds.
David O'Day
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can't see labour/snp and the lib dem won't go in with the tories again
anyone who would join the tories will have at most a handful of seats
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clint van damme
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Should have told them they were out at that time looking to rape or murder someone, they'd have let them on their way after putting them in their WhatsApp group
David O'Day
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fernandopartridge
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This is interesting, gives some numbers to my feeling that Labour is generally just winning back seats it has recently held anyway
Grendel
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Indeed
Labour general election win is still uncertain, says Prof John Curtice
Polling expert pours cold water on Keir Starmer’s claim that his party is on track to secure a majority despite local council victories
www.telegraph.co.uk
Yes let’s look at PVA above one of the most respected analysts in this field
It wasn’t a poll by the way it was an election
Yeah because LD and Greens are going to get like 40% of the GE vote. Great extrapolation.
It shows the Tories are utterly fucked. That's about the only conclusion you can draw from it. It's totally different to a general election vote.
Keep going, you're so close to getting it.
That was a very short interview
As short as the interview you posted.
He also said you can't draw too much from the vote share because people are far more likely to vote Green or LD in a local election.
But again, that doesn't fit your agenda.
David O'Day
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fernandopartridge
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Those Lib Dem gains of council seats in the Tory heartlands like Maidstone, they're going Labour at the GE yeah?
Yes I wonder why he didn't post this one
The local picture is good for Keir Starmer – the national predictions look even better | Peter Kellner
Evidence of a tactical pincer movement to defeat the Tories shows how worried they should be about the general election, says former YouGov president Peter Kellner
fernandopartridge
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Yes I wonder why he didn't post this one
The local picture is good for Keir Starmer – the national predictions look even better | Peter Kellner
Evidence of a tactical pincer movement to defeat the Tories shows how worried they should be about the general election, says former YouGov president Peter Kellnerwww.theguardian.com
@fernandopartridge it won't let me quote you for some reason, but you should probably read the whole article where he answers that question 
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shmmeee
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Not sure of that, but thanks .... I think
Tbh I think I'd go hung at smaller odds than coalition. I realise it's Labour this time but the last one did them so much damage and they're only just recovering. Personally I'd assume an agreement where a few concessions are made for regular voting alongside them than a formal coalition.
Yeah it’ll be confidence and supply at worst. TBH I don’t see why they’d need it. Most Labour manifesto stuff would be backed by the SNP Greens and softer LDs or their voters would get annoyed. And the stuff that’s too right wing for them would probably get some Tories on board.
David O'Day
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just smile and laugh at him, he's a sad lonely manYes I wonder why he didn't post this one
The local picture is good for Keir Starmer – the national predictions look even better | Peter Kellner
Evidence of a tactical pincer movement to defeat the Tories shows how worried they should be about the general election, says former YouGov president Peter Kellner
Grendel
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Says the person who has PVA as his only friend