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[Matt smith]

Yes Hamer is far more important to the team. I could sort of accept us losing him if he wants to play in the Premier League but not if we have decided not to pay him what he is worth. As you said earlier we would really need to spend the whole fee at least if we want to be competitive next season. The only player I saw in the Championship last season better than Hamer was Diallo so it will leave a massive whole in our team. Not sure a couple of 2.5M players will do it.

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have we really done enough to keep him? That’s the million dollar question we’ll struggle to really find out

 

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[shmmeee]

No it doesn’t I totally agree but we paid peanuts for both and made them into great players , who’s to say our recruitment won’t be as good again with more to spend ?

Robins and Viveash get the best out of players generally. It seems as long as we sign progressively technically better players with a similar focus on attitude and personality well do OK.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

@GIMOC tell me theres good news

 

[SleepyGinger]

Even if we could stretch to 25k a week. Hamer could get possibly double that from a premier league team and you couldn’t blame him.

 

[pusbccfc]

Brentford sold Watkins and replaced him with Toney , just an example but there is opportunities to do the same

Depends how good our new recruitment team are..

 

[Matt smith]

@GIMOC tell me theres good news

He was back in action today

Bang on with brad Collins, reliable as ever

 

[Martin180]

Just aside we sold Vik and splashed out on Simms , for me that is a huge statement of intent . I’m sure there are players lined up if the worst happened and I’m confident that money will be spent accordingly

 

[Matt smith]

Brentford sold Watkins and replaced him with Toney , just an example but there is opportunities to do the same

Who would you look at going for Martin? Genuine question

someone from our division??

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Brentford sold Watkins and replaced him with Toney , just an example but there is opportunities to do the same

Brentford had an established scouting network they'd built over years, ous have been here about 5 months.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Who would you look at going for Martin? Genuine question

someone from our division??

O'Brien from Forest.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

No it doesn’t I totally agree but we paid peanuts for both and made them into great players , who’s to say our recruitment won’t be as good again with more to spend ?

Yes but both Hamer and Gyokeres improved over time. New players bought at those sort of fees can't be expected to immediately perform at their levels of last season.

 

[Matt smith]

O'Brien from Forest.

Yeah like it, can’t tell if the massengo links were a wind up from Greggs I’d have him

 

[Martin180]

Brentford had an established scouting network they'd built over years, ous have been here about 5 months.

They haven’t though have they ? Gus has been with us for 3 years , Vik for 2 , Sheaf another well scouted …

 

[PVA]

No it doesn’t I totally agree but we paid peanuts for both and made them into great players , who’s to say our recruitment won’t be as good again with more to spend ?

Yep.

Vik, Hamer, OHare and Sheaf were signed for a combined ~£3m

We're shopping at a different level now, and I'm not saying we're going to repeat that, but I'd be confident in Robins signing say, 3 or 4 really good players at £2-3m each.

 

[Martin180]

Yes but both Hamer and Gyokeres improved over time. New players bought at those sort of fees can't be expected to immediately perform at their levels of last season.

That’s my point we can allocate more for players so they will be further developed while still taking a gamble on a few unproven players

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

They haven’t though have they ? Gus has been with us for 3 years , Vik for 2 , Sheaf another well scouted …

The recruitment department that brought them in have left.

 

[Sick Boy]

You can't ask fans to join the journey, get recore season ticket sales (at an increased price), get record shirt sales, only to sell your two best players.

If money was tight I can understand it, but we've got £20m coming in from Vik. Even if you can't agree a new contract, that buffer allows you to gamble on keeping him for another year and him walking away on a free if we don't go up.

There’s no way King would let him leave on a free and it would be madness to even consider it.

 

[Martin180]

Who would you look at going for Martin? Genuine question

someone from our division??

Adam Wharton at Blackburn stood out both times we played them last season , would love a Simms type bid for him

 

[higgs]

Didn't Robins say a while back that people need to be realistic with their wage demands if that was directed towards gus then he probably has a replacement lined up and will have known gus is unlikely to stay

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[Deleted member 9744]

That’s my point we can allocate more for players so they will be further developed while still taking a gamble on a few unproven players

Fair point.

 

[Martin180]

The recruitment department that brought them in have left.

Judging by this summers recruitment have they been missed ?

 

[Matt smith]

Adam Wharton at Blackburn stood out both times we played them last season , would love a Simms type bid for him

Was superb at their place

 

[skyblueelephant76]

O'Brien from Forest.

Forest wanted £10m in Jan and he's been linked with Sheff Utd and Leeds, no chance he's coming here.

 

[Matt smith]

Didn't Robins say a while back that people need to be realistic with their wage demands if that was directed towards gus then he probably has a replacement lined up and will have known gus is unlikely to stay

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We’ll sign a replacement before Gus goes

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

Judging by this summers recruitment have they been missed ?

Bit early to say that when none of these players have played a single game for the club yet.

 

[Martin180]

Bit early to say that when none of these players have played a single game for the club yet.

You not excited by Simms and Sakamoto then ?

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

You not excited by Simms and Sakamoto then ?

Cautiously optimistic but waiting to see them actually play for us, especially Sakamoto who is a real unknown quantity.

 

[Matt smith]

To be honest I’d kind of like the ballsy nature of replacing Gus with say a 10 million pound player rather than a few 2/3 million pound players

don’t know why, intent I suppose

 

[Martin180]

Cautiously optimistic but waiting to see them actually play for us, especially Sakamoto who is a real unknown quantity.

He is but he was his clubs player of the season in the Belgian first division .

like I’ve said I don’t want to lose Gus but we have to be realistic, if the fee is good then we must sell . Then we also must reinvest well , it’s going to be an interesting few days

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Cautiously optimistic but waiting to see them actually play for us, especially Sakamoto who is a real unknown quantity.

How many of us had heard of Sakamoto a couple of weeks ago. Potentially exciting addition but agree we have no idea yet how he will play for us.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

To be honest I’d kind of like the ballsy nature of replacing Gus with say a 10 million pound player rather than a few 2/3 million pound players

don’t know why, intent I suppose

who though.

 

[Martin180]

To be honest I’d kind of like the ballsy nature of replacing Gus with say a 10 million pound player rather than a few 2/3 million pound players

don’t know why, intent I suppose

Chris Willock at QPR ?

 

[Matt smith]

who though.

I don’t know

that’s not my job

Wharton is a shout tbf to Martin

 

[Martin180]

I don’t know

that’s not my job

Wharton is a shout tbf to Martin

He will go for a similar amount to Gus though

 

[Matt smith]

Chris Willock at QPR ?

Yeah like it, Gus can cover cam and cdm so we can explore a few avenues