USSR invades Ukraine. (69 Viewers)

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shmmeee

shmmeee

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duffer said:
Puts another dent in Putin's reputation at home too, which can't hurt.

Perhaps discourages travel in general across the bridge too, I certainly wouldn't fancy it knowing that it's constantly at risk of attack...
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They’re telling tourists to use the land bridge through occupied Ukraine 😬

I’ve had some crappy family holiday drives before but that would take the biscuit.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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shmmeee said:
They’re telling tourists to use the land bridge through occupied Ukraine 😬

I’ve had some crappy family holiday drives before but that would take the biscuit.
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I remember as a kid is driving to catch the ferry at Belfast when it was a particularly bad summer for sectarian violence and riots in Northern Ireland. The advice from the police was stay away from Belfast if possible and if you have to drive through Belfast make sure all your doors are locked and don’t stop at traffic lights because people were being forced out of their cars so the cars could be set up as barriers and set alight. That was a fun journey. We got to the ferry okay which was a night sailing and as the ship was getting ready to depart I vividly remember standing on the deck looking out at Belfast and just seeing huge fires everywhere.
 
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Fysnkysc

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Flying Fokker said:
So. Russia v Poland. And…..

www.express.co.uk

Putin puppet says Russia 'ready to wage war with Turkey' over Black Sea

Russian state media, which is strictly controlled by the Kremlin, is used in part as a tool to overplay Vladimir Putin's global influence to its civilian viewership. The state channels often call on the Russian autocrat to wage war with NATO to mask the reality that such a prospect is not feasible.
www.express.co.uk www.express.co.uk
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Turkey, Poland, Romania fuck me currently I think Ireland would be able to cause Russia trouble 😂, they are making do with scraps and they will only last so long
 
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Grendel

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PVA said:
19 years of hell for criticising Putin


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It could have been worse - they could have played round the clock videos of Zekensky dancing on Tic Tok
 
Grendel

Grendel

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PVA said:
Started on the sherry early tonight?
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Sorry? That comment is hardly a sign of intoxication

I’d prefer a good measure of beluga noble myself
 
Sick Boy

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PVA said:
That's fine as long as the result of those negotiations is Russia leaving Ukrainian territory.

Until then, no negotiations.
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I think you’re over estimating your influence here. In all seriousness, unfortunately it won’t be entirely up to them - the longer it goes on the more pressure there will be for concessions.
 
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PVA

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Sick Boy said:
I think you’re over estimating your influence here. In all seriousness, unfortunately it won’t be entirely up to them - the longer it goes on the more pressure there will be for concessions.
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They're on the offensive, they aren't going to agree to any negotiation which results in Russia remaining in Ukraine.
 
Flying Fokker

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PVA said:
They're on the offensive, they aren't going to agree to any negotiation which results in Russia remaining in Ukraine.
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The day will come when they have to take stock. Russia is sending canon fodder still. Providing the armoir and ammunition flows from the west, Ukraine will keep going. But, there has to be a point when both sides stop.
 
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PVA

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Flying Fokker said:
The day will come when they have to take stock. Russia is sending canon fodder still. Providing the armoir and ammunition flows from the west, Ukraine will keep going. But, there has to be a point when both sides stop.
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Yes I agree, and you are right that being supplied by the west is a huge factor, probably the biggest. But until the west stops arming Ukraine then they will keep pushing Russia out.
 
duffer

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PVA said:
Yes I agree, and you are right that being supplied by the west is a huge factor, probably the biggest. But until the west stops arming Ukraine then they will keep pushing Russia out.
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It might be financially expensive, but at the moment the West is grinding down Russia's military without losing a single soldier.

From a purely cynical point of view, that's no bad thing, imho - Russia's influence globally has to be significantly impacted by this.

I'm not sure if F-16s will make a huge difference, but historically air superiority seemed to be important to a successful conventional offensive action. I guess we'll see when they finally arrive...
 
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PVA

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duffer said:
It might be financially expensive, but at the moment the West is grinding down Russia's military without losing a single soldier.
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Yes absolutely. I said this back in February...

PVA said:
The US have spent something like 2 weeks worth of their annual defence budget on aid and weapons for Ukraine and has practically crippled the Russian army.

It's a fantastic ROI for them, they will keep funding like this for as long as they want/need to.
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This may change depending on their election though.
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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Thing is this drip drip of weapons has just meant it’s dragged out and allowed Russians to dig in. Pretty much everything we’ve said no to we’ve gone back on later. If we’d given it in the first place we might have seen some real gains this summer.
 
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Just watched an excellent documentary on Channel 4 called 'The Price of Truth' about a Russian journalist and Nobel Prize winner. Great insight into Russia and the war in Ukraine. Worth watching on catch up in my view.
 
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TASS reporting Prigozhin was indeed on board. Shot down by Russian Air defence. How will this one play out?
 
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