Transfer Rumour Dylan Vente (2 Viewers)

Ccfcisparks

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Someone on the Facebook group now saying we have agreed a fee for Vente
 

Happy_Martian

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Done deal according to my ITK ;) 🥳😄

He also said Kitching is close and when Gus goes, Callum Styles will be his replacement.

Actually, Styles isn't a bad CM. No where near to Gus in talent but he'd certainly offer something to the squad.
 

TomRad85

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Actually, Styles isn't a bad CM. No where near to Gus in talent but he'd certainly offer something to the squad.
Take him in the squad for sure, but Gus still has to stay.

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Happy_Martian

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Someone on the Facebook group now saying we have agreed a fee for Vente

SkyBlueGuy posted above at 7:09pm, copied a Tweet saying Vente's club had accepted an offer. May be the same rumour doing the social media circle dance.
 

Gibbo

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We should start a league table of ITK's
We could have playoffs and relegation!

All I know is that MR doesn't tend to sign 28 year olds or older, and he prefers young ambitious players that are hungry for success and willing to work hard. He also doesn't pay sky high wages, and looks to recruit players that can potentially return a profit.

If you apply the above rational to any rumour, you can quickly rule most out as BS.
Also any rumour that stems from Alan Nixon should be treated with suspicion.
what, like Martin Waghorn, MaGuire....
 
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All I know is that MR doesn't tend to sign 28 year olds or older, and he prefers young ambitious players that are hungry for success and willing to work hard. He also doesn't pay sky high wages, and looks to recruit players that can potentially return a profit.
Doyle, McFadzean, James, Waghorn etc shows he recognises the need for some experience alongside kids.
 

Martin180

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If I'm wrong shoot me down but wasnt he rumoured to be shown round the CBS when the squad were away in Portugal?
Also other championship sides were doing similar
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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I can’t deal with how thick some of our fans ours. It’s just the same people repeating their own made up ‘news’ with the same people then believing it and passing it on. So brain dead.
 

Gibbo

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Old news Gibbo, get with the program

Sisu have moved on, there's a new King in town.
Waghorn was a good signing on paper. Had a good pedigree, had scored goals in a poor Derby side etc. Sometimes these things just don't work out. You could equally say that Fadz didn't really fit the profile when we signed him but where would we be without him
The point was that the post took an absolutist stance by saying that Robins didn't buy older players, there was no conditional clause saying he only buys good older players. He clearly does buy older players when it suits or in desperation
 

The Philosopher

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Waghorn was a good signing on paper. Had a good pedigree, had scored goals in a poor Derby side etc. Sometimes these things just don't work out. You could equally say that Fadz didn't really fit the profile when we signed him but where would we be without him
I still don’t think Waghorn was a good signing on paper and said so at the time:

1) we had Godden as an experienced striker, Walker, Tavares etc as backup.

2) he took up a big chunk of wage budget that could have been used elsewhere in the team more effectively.

3) Eg, Using the Waghorn reported 13k a week by giving (an at the time younger and doing ok late in the previous season) Biamou £3k and having £10k per week for a defender and a midfielder or a striker in the Gyok age range would have been better.

4) 13k per week on someone who would never command a transfer fee was quite mad. Get the “look at Fadz, Look at Kelly” argument but I don’t think for one minute they command £13k per week.

So, as I said at the time and still maintain, Waghorn was a strange signing under the circumstances and given that we were in SISU budget times.
 

Speedie's Head

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The point was that the post took an absolutist stance by saying that Robins didn't buy older players, there was no conditional clause saying he only buys good older players. He clearly does buy older players when it suits or in desperation
In that first Championship season Robins seemed to accept the we were short of experience when he brought in Matty James. The side's been a bit more balanced since then. Shame that Wags didn't workout, I always felf he was just a soft goal away from finding some form.
 

fatso

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The point was that the post took an absolutist stance by saying that Robins didn't buy older players, there was no conditional clause saying he only buys good older players. He clearly does buy older players when it suits or in desperation
My post did say that MR "tends" to not buy older players. That's certainly the case if you look across all his signings. The odd exception was possibly due to having no money available to pay a transfer fee. Or needing some experience to help out in key areas.

That's why it's obviously strange when Allan Nixon links us with players like Sharp and Gallagher.

Looking at our aquasitions so far and you can see there is a "type" as in young, combative, keen to progress and most importantly, they have a potential future resale value.
 

Manchester_sky_blue

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I still don’t think Waghorn was a good signing on paper and said so at the time:

1) we had Godden as an experienced striker, Walker, Tavares etc as backup.

2) he took up a big chunk of wage budget that could have been used elsewhere in the team more effectively.

3) Eg, Using the Waghorn reported 13k a week by giving (an at the time younger and doing ok late in the previous season) Biamou £3k and having £10k per week for a defender and a midfielder or a striker in the Gyok age range would have been better.

4) 13k per week on someone who would never command a transfer fee was quite mad. Get the “look at Fadz, Look at Kelly” argument but I don’t think for one minute they command £13k per week.

So, as I said at the time and still maintain, Waghorn was a strange signing under the circumstances and given that we were in SISU budget times.
Do we have evidence that he was taking home £13k? I've not heard that before. If true then I agree it does change my view of the signing somewhat.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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I still don’t think Waghorn was a good signing on paper and said so at the time:

1) we had Godden as an experienced striker, Walker, Tavares etc as backup.

2) he took up a big chunk of wage budget that could have been used elsewhere in the team more effectively.

3) Eg, Using the Waghorn reported 13k a week by giving (an at the time younger and doing ok late in the previous season) Biamou £3k and having £10k per week for a defender and a midfielder or a striker in the Gyok age range would have been better.

4) 13k per week on someone who would never command a transfer fee was quite mad. Get the “look at Fadz, Look at Kelly” argument but I don’t think for one minute they command £13k per week.

So, as I said at the time and still maintain, Waghorn was a strange signing under the circumstances and given that we were in SISU budget times.

We needed a second starting calibre striker as Walker was our top scorer that season and Godden was out for about half the season.

With Gyokeres, Walker and Godden in the team, I do think it made sense to add some experience. Waghorn’s haul of 5 or 6 goals for Derby the season before was respectable. The signing made sense but ultimately didn’t work out.

Primarily, we ought to focus our energies signing younger players to develop with resale value. However, you can’t underestimate the role of having experience in a team and that’s what McFadzean and Kelly demonstrate. Two players that are punching well above their weight.

In short, prioritise the high potential signings but some players in, or approaching, their peak to take us to the next level: the promised land.
 

Deity

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In that first Championship season Robins seemed to accept the we were short of experience when he brought in Matty James. The side's been a bit more balanced since then. Shame that Wags didn't workout, I always felf he was just a soft goal away from finding some form.
His legs had gone. He could t keep up with our transitions. One goal wasnt changing that.
 

SeaSeeEffCee

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As good as in the bag then.

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Tbf to Turner he’s usually spot on when he says we aren’t interested in someone. I remember he said it pretty early with the Knoepper guy we were supposedly signing for weeks last season and got quite a bit of stick for it.
 

Martin180

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Tbf to Turner he’s usually spot on when he says we aren’t interested in someone. I remember he said it pretty early with the Knoepper guy we were supposedly signing for weeks last season and got quite a bit of stick for it.
He’s also said we’re not interested in Mbappe too
 

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