She said he is racist etc, she did not say the Tories are. That's why I'm saying it's different. Keep up. You're so tedious.
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She said he is racist etc, she did not say the Tories are. That's why I'm saying it's different. Keep up. You're so tedious.
Grendel
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No she said they are a bunch of - she referred to the whole party as such. She then wouldn’t apologise unless genuine apologised himself for his personal behaviours - but her words were “The Tories are a bunch of….”
Or do the media need to keep us as well?
Angela Rayner stands by labelling of Tories as ‘scum’ | Angela Rayner | The Guardian
Labour deputy leader refuses to say sorry, describing terms as ‘street language’ of her working-class roots
No she said they are a bunch of - she referred to the whole party as such. She then wouldn’t apologise unless genuine apologised himself for his personal behaviours - but her words were “The Tories are a bunch of….”
Or do the media need to keep us as well?
Angela Rayner stands by labelling of Tories as ‘scum’ | Angela Rayner | The Guardian
Labour deputy leader refuses to say sorry, describing terms as ‘street language’ of her working-class rootsamp.theguardian.com
The scum comment was aimed at Tories. The racist misogynist stuff was aimed at Johnson.
Grendel
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Nothings really happened today but someone pretending to be outraged by a tweet - the reality is in a social media world political mud slinging will get increasing worse
Starmer gets plenty of it from his own party members - ironically it’s the middle classes that will elect him along with those northern bigoted brexit lot in them dirty northern mill towns
skybluetony176
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Too be fair it’s more relevant than the last Labour government line
Grendel
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Now this would get my vote
www.telegraph.co.uk
Why Rishi Sunak is backing away from the 2030 petrol car ban
The Prime Minister has opened the way for a rethink of the Tory net zero pledge
www.telegraph.co.uk
fernandopartridge
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Grendel
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Along with the classic - Sunak doesn’t think criminals with guns should go to prison.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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While the issue of state controlled broadcasters is a valid one, it's not like the private ones are all bastions of truth and enlightment. Fox is a joke.
Grendel
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Well this has all turned out to be rather embarrassing - grovelling apologies and a delay of some inevitable head rolling at NatWest
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Climate change upon us and probably our last chance to act (actually it'sprobably too late sorry); cost of living crisis hitting the majority of the population; number of homeless children rising; strikes in the NHS and on the railways impacting on our lives but what is the Government focused on? More culture wars rubbish. Do they really think anyone is interested in Farage's Coutts bank account and this is going to solve the real problems the world and the country faces.
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Tbf even the lefties were outraged at Labour's attack ads, so have the entitlement to be outraged here too.
skybluetony176
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In other news. Nat West boss cancelled for being a free market capitalist after anti cancel culture/pro free market warrior complains about being the “victim” of a free market economy.
David O'Day
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Heavy session last night grenners lad?
David O'Day
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Very Stainist behaviour from the government as well
shmmeee
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Not to me. Whats it doing for you?
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I think it offers something no commercial channel or BBC does, yeah.
chiefdave
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I still have no clue why Farage is the only person in the country who has the right to a bank account other than a basic bank account from one of the governments nine designated providers
Sad state of affairs when the country is falling apart and there's horrific news on a daily basis but the thing that gets the government to spring into action is a millionaire not being able to use one particular bank
It's just more culture war bollocks isn't it. And a handy distraction for them.
Grendel
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i think the point is more around the senior figure leaking what proved to be inaccurate information to the media isn’t it?
skybluetony176
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The irony here is that a self proclaimed free speech fundamentalist who thinks freedom of speech should mean freedom of conscience celebrating someone resigning exactly because their freedom to speak to the BBC came with consequences.
Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s right she resigned given the facts and I believe freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consciences, but you’d think that the free speech warriors would be calling for her to be reinstated.
what do we want?
Freedom of speech to mean freedom of consciences!
When do we want it?
When it doesn’t negatively impact me personally?
Don’t get me wrong, I think it’s right she resigned given the facts and I believe freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom of consciences, but you’d think that the free speech warriors would be calling for her to be reinstated.
what do we want?
Freedom of speech to mean freedom of consciences!
When do we want it?
When it doesn’t negatively impact me personally?
I don’t think this is a freedom of speech issue at all. She got her facts wrong and caused embarrassment/reputational damage to her company - it was a high profile-enough screw up to justify giving her the sack if the board felt it was a problem.
As it is, she had the board’s backing until No 10 AND No 11 decided to demand her head on a plate. And apparently one cabinet minister thinks that still isn’t enough blood sacrifices for this most heinous of crimes.
Grendel
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This is a breach of confidentiality?
What has free speech got to do with anything?
skybluetony176
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As I said, she had to go. But you can guarantee that if this had have happened to a left wing commentator instead of a right wing commentator working on the government’s favourite friendly “News” channel A) the government wouldn’t have gotten involved and B) if it had have caused a banking boss resignation the same right wing free thinkers would have been crying cancel culture, freedom of speech etc etc.
Grendel
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Its not freedom of speech is it?
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It's not the most important issue facing the country is it?
There was a report yesterday on the increase in homeless children for example. This received less attention than a very privileged man's issues relating to a bank account with an elite bank.
Let's face it this is another example of the right trying to flood the media with rubbish to avoid the media spotlight on what they should be reporting. Classic Steve Bannon tactics of course ('flood the zone with shit'). I just can't see this one appealing to many, though, especially in a cost of living crisis.
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Grendel
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What a strange thing to say
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Ian1779
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Yet again when the two-child benefit cap comes up he spouts some bollocks about uncosted spending commitments. Well how about doing a few sums you fucking twat because it’s clear that your policy stance on this is dog shit.
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So you think Farage's bank account should be the top news story?