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covcity4life

covcity4life

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shmmeee said:
For a man who works in Marketing you sure do have a strange superiority complex about other peoples jobs.
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He's a very unhappy man

I used to troll when I didn't like my job. Since career change don't have the time or motivation anymore lol

One of my year 10s wrote me the loveliest letter on the last day btw. After van erwick it's the best thing to happen to me in last 7 days lol
 
hill83

hill83

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Grendel said:
It’s an accurate assessment and probably above a primary school assistants capability to analyse
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shmmeee

shmmeee

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covcity4life said:
He's a very unhappy man

I used to troll when I didn't like my job. Since career change don't have the time or motivation anymore lol

One of my year 10s wrote me the loveliest letter on the last day btw. After van erwick it's the best thing to happen to me in last 7 days lol
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Keep that shit man. I’ve got a box of letters and cards I got when teaching and there’s nothing better than to pull it out when you’re low. (Please don’t ruin this post with penis jokes SBT)
 
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djr8369

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Grendel said:
The Gyokeres sale and the fact the contracts of high earning (and often non performing) players ran down out the end of last season means all this activity will initially fund itself.

The wages I suspect of the overseas signings will be containable within the existing structure

I don’t think the previous owner would have had much issue with signing the players we have signed - I suspect they would have baulked at Simms signing due to his contract and not the fee.

That ultimately will be when we see if king is different. The funding of operating losses as and when the costs exceed annual turnover.
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What issue do you think they’d have with Simms and why?
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Skyblueweeman said:
But do you seriously think if we swapped DK with Sisu and everything was as it is now (ex Simms), Sisu would've sanctioned Sakamoto, Binks, Van Ewijk, Latibeaudiere etc?

They wouldn't even sanction international scouting??
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The point I’m trying to make (and clearly failing) is they operated entirely on income in and using that to fund the whole operation

It clearly was falling apart in the championship as the operational costs were much higher to compete and they were having to bridge gaps through external high interest loans

So could they have afforded the players - yes clearly they could as the money would have been in the club to pay the fees and the structure to get them. The issue arises when the operating costs need paying

That’s when we will see what king is capable of and how he achieves that funding and if external borrowing is required

We simply do not know
 
Grendel

Grendel

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shmmeee said:
Hey it’s a well trodden pipeline. I used to work with Guz Khan. Greg Davies and Romesh Ranganathan were teachers, who knows maybe we’ll see you on Live At The Appolo in a few years.
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Jim Bowen was a teacher I believe and Tom O Connor
 
Grendel

Grendel

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djr8369 said:
Have we got any info on his wages or is that largely an assumption based on his Everton wages?
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Well you’ve got to assume it’s a sizeable deal.
 
fatso

fatso

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Grendel said:
The Gyokeres sale and the fact the contracts of high earning (and often non performing) players ran down out the end of last season means all this activity will initially fund itself.

The wages I suspect of the overseas signings will be containable within the existing structure

I don’t think the previous owner would have had much issue with signing the players we have signed - I suspect they would have baulked at Simms signing due to his contract and not the fee.

That ultimately will be when we see if king is different. The funding of operating losses as and when the costs exceed annual turnover.
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Agreed, the fact that 22 players left the club from various levels frees up a lot of cash for wages (we saved loan fees as well) I'd expect a much smaller squad this season but operating at a higher standard ( quality rather than quantity)

all of the players brought in have the potential to bring in a big money sale in the future, and that's been secured with long term contracts.

We know more players will arrive, and the loan market can be utilised to give us some depth.

I think this is the first time that MR has been given a free hand to have a complete squad clear out and totally reshape it in his own way. And now we have an owner that truly buys into the MR ethos.

Exciting time to be a sky blue 💙
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Grendel said:
The Gyokeres sale and the fact the contracts of high earning (and often non performing) players ran down out the end of last season means all this activity will initially fund itself.

The wages I suspect of the overseas signings will be containable within the existing structure

I don’t think the previous owner would have had much issue with signing the players we have signed - I suspect they would have baulked at Simms signing due to his contract and not the fee.

That ultimately will be when we see if king is different. The funding of operating losses as and when the costs exceed annual turnover.
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I think one fundamental difference is that they had long given up any meaningful interest in the day to day of the club whereas Mr King appears the exact opposite. For example in overhauling the commercial side of the club, or in committing to training ground improvements without being forced.

I would probably agree he isn't spending much if any of his own personal capital but his motives do seem different to his predecessors.
 
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Deity

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
I think one fundamental difference is that they had long given up any meaningful interest in the day to day of the club whereas Mr King appears the exact opposite. For example in overhauling the commercial side of the club, or in committing to training ground improvements without being forced.

I would probably agree he isn't spending much if any of his own personal capital but his motives do seem different to his predecessors.
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We don’t know how much Doug actually paid for the club but he could easily have banked the Vik and Hamer money and have totally derisked his ownership. The notion of his” money is a somewhat false one … any revenue is in effect his now.

The fact he hasn’t and is shaking up all aspects of the club is to be applauded.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Deity said:
We don’t know how much Doug actually paid for the club but he could easily have banked the Vik and Hamer money and have totally derisked his ownership. The notion of his” money is a somewhat false one … any revenue is in effect his now.

The fact he hasn’t and is shaking up all aspects of the club is to be applauded.
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He seems to just be doing what a normal businessman would be doing, which we haven't had in so long it seems weird.
 
SkyblueDad

SkyblueDad

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We still have to keep our feet firmly on the ground at the moment we have signed seven players, four to replace out going loans, all good lads, two maybe three we would have accepted back with open arms, one another goalkeeper and one a replacement for the best striker in the division Gyokeres, so realistically it is only Tatsu who is a new position so to speak, bonus there he could be the star of the show.
It’s the next batch of signings that will be the ones I’m eager to see which hopefully will propel us to the top end of the division and maintain that all season. Rose, Waghorn, Walker & Maguire were at best subs, we need at least two more strikers, three if Godden moves on, getting that right imo is key to next season, strikers always are. replacing Gyo goals & assists is a big task.
Also we need another CB to come in for Rose and the ageing McFadzeen not easy a proper hairy arsed old school centre-half but a very influential player last season. Can still do a job for a while but imo needs replacing.
Not being pessimistic just realistic and I am optimistic those we have already signed will all fit the bill and the bonus are all ours.

Robins spoke last week about bringing in another nine and has just signed two of them and as yet no loans he knows the score, if he’s successful in recruiting what would be another seven I’m sure he will be going for potential better players permanent or loans. We still have a decent chunk of the Gyo money left so I’m optimistic better players than what we have will come in.
And remember we have Callum O’Hare to come back in the Autumn be like a new signing.
And Hamer, hopefully.
 
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Gibbo said:
Been mulling over, as a paid up prophet of doom, why we should not be getting too carried away

1. Plenty of clubs have spent big and not gone up (we heard fans like Stoke's complaining that they had spent money but not got a team as good as ours). It is no guarantee
2. Post Covid Championship clubs have not spent quite so liberally. For a brief window City's low cost model was more competitive.
3. Norwich & Watford badly underperformed last year. This year there will three relegated plus them, plus Boro, Sunderland, Millwall and WBA. Last year clubs like Blackburn did their damnedest to throw away the chance of promotion and we motored through the middle.
4. The 22-23 side had continuity. At times last Spring the 1st eleven was made up of 7 with over 2 years with the club (Gyokeres at 2 and a bit being the most recent) plus three loans and Bidwell. Not this year, with a vengeance.
5. Last time Robins built a team from scratch was League 2 ['Concrete Rod' McDonald, Peter Vincenti, Marc McNulty, a young Dom Hyam plus Bayliss and Shipley]. It has its own challenges. And it will be more multi-lingual.

There are plenty of upsides. I don't need to list them, and it is the best the Club has been since Dublin, Huckerby and Boateng but please do not be too hard on management and players if it does not work from day 1

Incidentally, where does O'Hare fit in? Palmer appears to be growing in stature and Saka looks very similar as a player.
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Multi lingual? Robins said Sakamoto is learning English but who other than that do you think can't speak good English?

As for O’Hare we have to wait until he is fit. Impossible to say whether he will get up to the same level again until then.
 
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