fernandopartridge
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A cyclist does not cause a traffic hold up, cars, vans and lorries do
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Mcbean
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Is true - but cycle lanes do cause congestion and pollution ( see London LTN) as they restrict road space then when the cyclist don’t use the cycle lanes it gets worse and is also dangerous
shmmeee
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Seriiusly? If there’s dedicated infrastructure cyclists should piss off frankly. I know it’s optional but this is a bloody good cycle Lane not some shitty painted thing
shmmeee
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Have you got any evidence for this? Everything I’ve seen says the opposite.
shmmeee
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Was reading something the other day about how they’ve been cultivating outrage. Apparently the anti protesters demanded cameras because “what about emergency vehicles?” Then started saying it was big brother because of all the cameras.
Saw the fines compared to Paris or other ULEZ zones and frankly it’s absolutely nothing in comparison.
Goes back to the NIMBY stuff that I posted about earlier. People whine like hell before something happens then when it does everyone’s fine.
Mcbean
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Just the stuff I read about Khan , one of my friends lives on the edge of the new ULEZ area which is basically countryside - pollution levels in the routes that the traffic has been kettled into by the LTNs have gone up ( papertalk) but for example As the roads have been narrowed to make cycle lanes in Brighton the pollution has gone up as the average speed has dropped - it’s a mix of the two subjects I know but I have seen the cyclists not using the cycle lanes which could be two way and dangerous for Pedestrians
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They do in the immediate term I'm sure as there's the same number of cars in less space.
But the idea is to encourage people disposed to cycling to do so as it's less lethal / force drivers to find another way as it's too inconvenient to drive, so in the medium / long term it ought to reduce car usage.
However as this is the annoying things thread... getting out of C&NW cricket ground is a challenge. The cycle lane is not obviously two directions when you exit, and you're focussing on the road as it's a bit like a pavement so you assume things will be coming at you slower. Yes, it's my responsibility, but a bit of heavy duty signing / warning until people get used to the concept would be useful. A couple of times I've driven out and across and only then realised I hadn't checked to my left if a cyclist was coming - good job they weren't!
shmmeee
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I dunno man. Sounds like a lot of anecdotal evidence to me.
At the end of the day you either put cyclists on the pavement, the road, or their own infrastructure. And the more electric mobility stuff we get the more of an issue it’ll become.
I just find it funny me driving around on infrastructure the taxpayer pays for that pollutes and costs loads and is hugely inefficient (1 person per massive box usually) and that takes up huge amounts of public space in free parking, that’s fine. Me cycling around on cheap, smaller, less instructive infra that doesn’t pollute and actually saves the NHS money, that’s selfish and terrible and must be stopped.
It’s an interesting mindset we have. I think the explosion of car growth over the last 50 years makes some of the 1950s open road drive to freedom stuff look a little silly and nostalgic.
shmmeee
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It’s partly that, but pollution is massively impacted by accelerating and braking. For example in theory a 20mph zone should produce more pollution than a 30mph zone but because it smooths out driving patterns it actually doesn’t. Moving from residential roads to properly built highways should actually improve pollution.
It just blows my mind that this is treated as some mad lefty climate fascist thing when they’ve been closing rat runs as long as I’ve been alive. The Riddings in Earlsdon where I grew up was one when I was little. They put bollards in one end to stop it. There were no mass protests.
Sick Boy
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Is that the Old Shoreham Road in Hove that you’re on about? If so, it’s long been backed up due to the poor road layout. In reality, Brighton has had a lot of pollution for years now as it’s a highly populated compact city with too many cars/people.
Mcbean
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Could well be !
shmmeee
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Everywhere has too many cars. The infrastructure just wasn’t built for every adult to have one. We aren’t America. Just as people have with houses as households break down I think people might have to manage their mobility expectations.
What I can’t get my head around is my 13 year old daughter who thinks 15 mums walk to school is “effort” but won’t use a bike to cut it to 5 mins because “cringe”
What I can’t get my head around is my 13 year old daughter who thinks 15 mums walk to school is “effort” but won’t use a bike to cut it to 5 mins because “cringe”
fernandopartridge
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"Comms"
SkyBlueSoul
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International breaks, no City for 2 weeks is shit. Good chance to watch some non-league though.
JAM See
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Cov rugby Vs Saracens on Saturday.
Taking the GLW up the Butts.
She always has a good time when I take her up there.
SkyBlueSoul
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I was going to that but can't make it anymore. Was meant to be in Cov for a mate's BBQ but it's been cancelled so I'll stay local and take in some North West Counties Premier Division instead.
OffenhamSkyBlue
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Rugby World Cup?
(i'll get me coat!)
SkyBlueSoul
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You can add that shitshow to the thread as it goes. Off to Lille in a month watch England v Samoa, a lot less excited than when I bought the tickets a year ago. Doesn't help that one of the guys I'm going with is a Scotland fan.
fernandopartridge
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Super to mean very, usually used by the LinkedIn class
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How far is your daily commute or do you have to do multi site?
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Brighton Sky Blue
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Neighbour dumping his garden waste into our green bin because we paid for a permit and he hasn’t.
Also the smell of weed coming in through the window which is open because it’s hot.
Also the smell of weed coming in through the window which is open because it’s hot.
fernandopartridge
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I worked from home today and it was awful, been in the office this week otherwise which is air conditioned bliss. I'd never wish away nice weather but have to say the current heat feels particularly oppressive.
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Mcbean
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Some weekends ago we had a meet in a pub carpark - one stone head tipped up , you could smell him all over the car park - there were 150 people there - it was him everywhere
shmmeee
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Some weekends ago we had a meet in a pub carpark - one stone head tipped up , you could smell him all over the car park - there were 150 people there - it was him everywhere
Drunk people famously fragrant
jimmyhillsfanclub
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Disposable vapes......and any c**t that uses them.
5 million of the fuckers are going into UK Landfill every fucking week.......every week!
just ban the fucking things.
5 million of the fuckers are going into UK Landfill every fucking week.......every week!
just ban the fucking things.
Sick Boy
Super Moderator
Add to that the stench that the clouds of stench they put out. If you are want to smoke something, just smoke ffs.
Sick Boy
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It’s even used in Italian as well “super buono” ffs.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The shit that those things put into your lungs is so bad you may as well just smoke.