Signs are looking good (6 Viewers)

[MalcSB]

I’m on the fence about whether to be optimistic or not about how things have turned out so far. I’m fairly pleased with the defensive reinforcements, but unfortunately not with the new strikers, especially Simms. The fact that 2 of our new defenders have scored while Simms has not is surprising. Sakamoto is under utilized and needs game time, possibly at the expense of one of the strikers in a 5 man midfield. We’ve dropped 6 points from winning positions and if you think about the missed penalty vs Watford you could argue that we would have led and dropped 2 points there as well. I clearly think adding the extra man in midfield versus using a 2nd striker could have helped preserve the win in the games we led, but understand that obviously circumstances dictate the substitutions. Can’t wait to integrate Allen and COH into the mix. Think Binks is good and need to see Kitching given a run out.

I don’t follow the logic. If the penalty had been scored, arguably we would have won the game 4-3. In reality, the rest of the game would have been different and any result would have been possible.

 

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[SkyblueTexan]

I don’t follow the logic. If the penalty had been scored, arguably we would have won the game 4-3. In reality, the rest of the game would have been different and any result would have been possible.

The point I was trying to make was how we’ve squandered leads and dropped points. The Watford game was one that we could have led, but didn’t thanks to a piss poor penalty. At 2-1 we looked like we were going to lose by an even greater margin. Then their own goal hands the initiative back to us and we could and should have taken control. But what we we did by returning the gift was unfathomable. So one could potentially see it as 2 points dropped is all I was saying. Even our win versus Boro was only sealed thanks to 2 fairly late goals after a few close calls. I just hope we can start to eke out 1-0 wins like we did last season (don’t care if it’s ugly - just want to win).

 

[Finham]

It’s a case of Rome wasn’t built in a day, Robins has almost completely revamped the squad and would have signed more if he could have.
He would have had targets which didn’t happen in time certain he will come back to it in January. If we hang around in our current position I’m certain we will add to our squad and be in a very good position for the second half of the season.

It's disappointing that the Roman's never said this-it dates from medieval French. Can imagine a Cantona of his day coming up with it.

 

[Brylowes]

At this point last season we were sitting on 2pts, having drawn 2 and lost 4, we had managed to concede 13 and score 7 , we had also been stuffed 1 - 4 at home by Bristol City in the EFL cup and were unsurprisingly rooted to the bottom of the league and I’m sure Hamer & Vic were instrumental in that team.
Some folk really need to get a grip, the fact is we have lost 2 football matches in the last 25 so 2 less than we lost in the first 6 games of last season.

 

[skyblue025]

Because we were in the playoffs and didn’t start back training until after most of the teams.

Being in the playoffs means you play longer so lose less fitness over the break. We've also had 7 competitive games as well as pre season now so should all be up to speed. I would agree with you if it was the first 2 or 3 games but after 7 it shouldn't be a factor.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Because we were in the playoffs and didn’t start back training until after most of the teams.

Sunderland aren’t doing too badly - I recall them being in the play offs

 

[shmmeee]

It's disappointing that the Roman's never said this-it dates from medieval French. Can imagine a Cantona of his day coming up with it.

Every time Cantona is brought up as some weirdo/sage/whatever I cringe so hard. The man made a very basic analogy and British society acted like he’s started doing Latin haikus.

 

[SonofErnie]

Every time Cantona is brought up as some weirdo/sage/whatever I cringe so hard. The man made a very basic analogy and British society acted like he’s started doing Latin haikus.

Yes, never got that. It was perfectly clear to me what he was saying.

 

[MalcSB]

Sunderland aren’t doing too badly - I recall them being in the play offs

Not the final though.

 

[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

Not the final though.

Literally one week before the final. that one extra week rest isn’t going to make that much difference in the grand scheme of things

 

[fernandopartridge]

Literally one week before the final. that one extra week rest isn’t going to make that much difference in the grand scheme of things

It was 11 days before which is about 4 games in championship terms

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[HuckerbyDublinWhelan]

It was 11 days before which is about 4 games in championship terms

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Further to this how many of our current players played in the play off final? From the starting 11 McFadz, Sheaf, Kelly, Eccles, Godden?

3 Are arguably our better performers. Kelly is a yard off the pace and has been for sometime and Eccles is Eccles.

also Hamer is already the best player in a team in the league above and he’s just come back from injury

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

It’s just a shit excuse. No reason why we should be looking any less fit than the other sides in this league.

 

[fatso]

Yeah but suppose you’re in charge and you think they’re awful, why keep them?

The window is shut.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

So would you think it best we try to sell both of them in January and try again? What if their replacements don’t light up the place after 6 games?

Easy, just rinse and repeat like it’s FIFA.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

I think the circumstances of the Hull game made it appear we were less fit than we actually are. In the 2nd half particularly our forwards failed to keep a hold of the ball meaning anytime our midfielders and wing backs made forward runs they were almost instantly having to turn back on their heels, and unsurprisingly that took its toll as the game went on. In retrospect it would have probably made sense to have brought on Sakamoto for one of the forwards and had an extra man in midfield, but I guess while we were 1-0 up MR was happy to go with it and try to ride the game out, even if the tide of play had most definitely turned in their favour.

 

[Boicey]

At this point last season we were sitting on 2pts, having drawn 2 and lost 4, we had managed to concede 13 and score 7 , we had also been stuffed 1 - 4 at home by Bristol City in the EFL cup and were unsurprisingly rooted to the bottom of the league and I’m sure Hamer & Vic were instrumental in that team.
Some folk really need to get a grip, the fact is we have lost 2 football matches in the last 25 so 2 less than we lost in the first 6 games of last season.

This is such a weak irrelevant argument. The team is different and the league is different. We dont have 2 outstanding attacking players.
Getting draws isn't enough to get you top 6.

 

[Brylowes]

This is such a weak irrelevant argument. The team is different and the league is different. We dont have 2 outstanding attacking players.
Getting draws isn't enough to get you top 6.

It isn’t a weak argument it’s a fact, the same doom mongers who were predicting a relegation scrap last season are out again now, and even with 2 outstanding attacking players we’d only managed 2 draws and 4 losses.
The team was always going to need time to settle, have some patience and you never know ‘you might be talking about another 2 outstanding attacking players come the end of the season.

 

[skybluecam]

6 games in to Gyokeres' Coventry career he had scored one goal and lost his starting spot to Max Biamou.

6 games in to Hamer's Coventry career he still had one game to serve of a 3 match ban for violent conduct.

But apparently 6 games is more than enough time to judge a player and be ready to ship them out...

 

[Finham]

Every time Cantona is brought up as some weirdo/sage/whatever I cringe so hard. The man made a very basic analogy and British society acted like he’s started doing Latin haikus.

That was basically my point! I was denigrating the phrase. Although, TBH, everyone I know took the piss out of Cantona for the seagulls etc, I don't know anyone who thinks that about him.

I like Looking for Eric, though.

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Do we not remember the start to last season? We’ve done better than that, and we have a new team its not time to panic at all

 

[ccfcricoh]

when fixtures came out i thought we had a really tough start to the season..

1 relegated team and favourites to win the league
2 teams that finished in playoffs
Swansea and Watford who are top 10 teams imo

I had pencilled Hull as our first "easy" game but then they started on a great run too...

To come through all that with 1 loss is excellent, yes we need more wins, but we are still nowhere near our best and it shows how tight the league is...

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

This is such a weak irrelevant argument. The team is different and the league is different. We dont have 2 outstanding attacking players.
Getting draws isn't enough to get you top 6.

It’s also 7 games into the season so a sample size that isn’t significant at this stage. If last season didn’t teach you that, what will?

Our first win of the season was a 23rd v 24th clash and both teams were in the playoff finals.

Players will develop/improve and there will be an opportunity to strengthen the team in January too.

 

[Hutch11]

Further to this how many of our current players played in the play off final? From the starting 11 McFadz, Sheaf, Kelly, Eccles, Godden?

3 Are arguably our better performers. Kelly is a yard off the pace and has been for sometime and Eccles is Eccles.

also Hamer is already the best player in a team in the league above and he’s just come back from injury

Eccles has stepped up and there's a marked improvement to his game
He's becoming a quality centre mid

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

.....not so good after this result.

 

[pusbccfc]

Brilliant thread

 

[edgy]

I'd argue the signs are looking bad.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

We're at the point where it's more fun to watch Mel Gibson's 'Signs' than the team

 

[Greggs]

Deluded

 

[skybluecam]

He's becoming a quality centre mid

Eccles becoming a quality centre mid? What are you smoking…

 

[Hutch11]

He was shite last night but apart from Lati who was any good ?

 

[skybluecam]

He was shite last night but apart from Lati who was any good ?

What attributes does he have that are “quality”?

He’s got a decent engine and that’s about it. Puts in the effort too. But in terms of actual quality he has little at this level.