Match Thread Coventry City - Norwich City Match Thread - Saturday 7th Oct (3 Viewers)

[Martin180]

Intelligent pressing after all lol

 

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[SBAndy]

Asking for a "press" has become an easy word to throw around. Like Fernando said, had they gone pressing like 2 puppies chasing after a ball, the midfielder dropping deep for Norwich could have easily collected and caught them out of position.

We had a fair amount of joy first half winning the ball back in the final third. I’ll admit at half time I wanted to see Godden on as his pressing intensity could possibly offer even more opportunities. What was telling was when Godden came on we basically did the same - that’s when I figured it was tactical.

Unfortunately fans have a fairly simplistic view. Most haven’t played above park football so just assume you press like mad at all times and if you’re not running full pelt at a defender you’re a waste of time.

I did notice that our press in their defensive third pretty much exclusively directed them to the right. Got caught out a couple of times early on by a switch but I’m assuming we wanted to avoid having too many attacks at our right side whilst Sakamoto was there.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

We had a fair amount of joy first half winning the ball back in the final third. I’ll admit at half time I wanted to see Godden on as his pressing intensity could possibly offer even more opportunities. What was telling was when Godden came on we basically did the same - that’s when I figured it was tactical.

Unfortunately fans have a fairly simplistic view. Most haven’t played above park football so just assume you press like mad at all times and if you’re not running full pelt at a defender you’re a waste of time.

I did notice that our press in their defensive third pretty much exclusively directed them to the right. Got caught out a couple of times early on by a switch but I’m assuming we wanted to avoid having too many attacks at our right side whilst Sakamoto was there.

We actually play our best football sitting deep and countering. We have done for many years now.

 

[pusbccfc]

The two strikers I believe were told not to press yesterday as Norwich had a midfielder that dropped deep who would allow them to be easily passed around

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Absolutely, but that doesn't explain why Wright was walking around when the entire team were bursting a gut to keep the lead on Wednesday. We were pumping it long and he wasn't really making an effort to get on to the clearances. I suppose we got used to Gyökeres chasing everything for 90 minutes.

A better player in an attacking team, I'd imagine.

 

[SBAndy]

We actually play our best football sitting deep and countering. We have done for many years now.

Agreed but all of a sudden we don’t have the dynamism in the middle. Basically stifles the play.

It’s just made me think, though, obviously Collins is more of a ‘sweeper keeper’ from what I saw in pre season but that’s really not compatible with Fadz at CB. Equally, none of our centre backs are particularly blessed with pace. Bit of an odd one.

 

[shmmeee]

We actually play our best football sitting deep and countering. We have done for many years now.

Yes the years when we had 9 shit players and two world class ones: one who could score from anything any one who could win games single handed from DM. We don’t have that luxury any more. Play like we did the last three seasons and we’ll draw or lose most games without scoring.

 

[skybluecam]

Intelligent pressing after all lol

 

[SkyblueDad]

Yes the years when we had 9 shit players and two world class ones: one who could score from anything any one who could win games single handed from DM. We don’t have that luxury any more. Play like we did the last three seasons and we’ll draw or lose most games without scoring.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Yes the years when we had 9 shit players and two world class ones: one who could score from anything any one who could win games single handed from DM. We don’t have that luxury any more. Play like we did the last three seasons and we’ll draw or lose most games without scoring.

Eh?

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[shmmeee]

Eh?

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Gus and Vik were the reason we could play the football we did. If we hadn’t had them the last three years we’d have done much worse or played differently. We not longer have the luxury of holding on and assuming one of them will win us the game.

 

[fernandopartridge]

Gus and Vik were the reason we could play the football we did. If we hadn’t had them the last three years we’d have done much worse or played differently. We not longer have the luxury of holding on and assuming one of them will win us the game.

That's not how we played last season or the one before, we generally take the game to anybody we have played. They happen to have won games for us but not out of any tactical plan that involved them being the match winner for us.

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[shmmeee]

That's not how we played last season or the one before, we generally take the game to anybody we have played. They happen to have won games for us but not out of any tactical plan that involved them being the match winner for us.

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There were long periods where our main game plan was stick 9 behind the ball and whack it up to Vik. Slightly less when O’Hare was about. First season was the defending and long ball that got us out of jail but we hardly set the league alight.

I’d argue this season is the first we’re going to try the sort of football that got us promoted.

 

[Matt smith]

There were long periods where our main game plan was stick 9 behind the ball and whack it up to Vik. Slightly less when O’Hare was about. First season was the defending and long ball that got us out of jail but we hardly set the league alight.

I’d argue this season is the first we’re going to try the sort of football that got us promoted.

Disagree, thought the first half of our second season in the championship we played superb football

do agree we were very very much counter attacking for the majority of last year

 

[shmmeee]

Disagree, thought the first half of our second season in the championship we played superb football

do agree we were very very much counter attacking for the majority of last year

We played great counter attacking football, thanks to Gus Vik and O’Hare, but in games where we had the bulk of possession we often looked clueless. It’s why when we signed Palmer people thought we might finally have a player who can unlock a defence.

 

[Matt smith]

We played great counter attacking football, thanks to Gus Vik and O’Hare, but in games where we had the bulk of possession we often looked clueless. It’s why when we signed Palmer people thought we might finally have a player who can unlock a defence.

I remember games against Peterborough and Fulham as 2 examples where I thought we played really good stuff

End of last year was 9 men behind the ball vik and Gus go win us the game, nothing wrong with that clearly worked very well

 

[fernandopartridge]

There were long periods where our main game plan was stick 9 behind the ball and whack it up to Vik. Slightly less when O’Hare was about. First season was the defending and long ball that got us out of jail but we hardly set the league alight.

I’d argue this season is the first we’re going to try the sort of football that got us promoted.

I don't recall one game

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[fernandopartridge]

I remember games against Peterborough and Fulham as 2 examples where I thought we played really good stuff

End of last year was 9 men behind the ball vik and Gus go win us the game, nothing wrong with that clearly worked very well

It wasn't 9 behind the ball, just utter horse shit.

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[shmmeee]

It wasn't 9 behind the ball, just utter horse shit.

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We’re being hyperbolic but it wasn’t far off. We often played 5311 last season which is about as defensive as the formation comes.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes the years when we had 9 shit players and two world class ones: one who could score from anything any one who could win games single handed from DM. We don’t have that luxury any more. Play like we did the last three seasons and we’ll draw or lose most games without scoring.

I would think MR agrees with you based on what he's tried to implement.

 

[Nuskyblue]

Two quite long away journeys for them in the space of a few days, probably some fatigue in the camp.

I'm not sure that travel would fatigue them so much tbh, I think we did a good job of nullifying them in the most part.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Free hit this one in all honesty. Would like us to play a different formation and maybe try 3 up top with Simms down the middle and Wright and Sakamoto either side of him. Would imagine that we will go the same team and could understand why if so.

Robins listens to Sparks.

 

[Evo1883]

Robins listens to Sparks.

Good call

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Good call

I've just emailed my application to replace Lawrence.

 

[Evo1883]

I've just emailed my application to replace Lawrence.

Have a word about Joel please

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Have a word about Joel please

I've suggested he could do a job in the Sky Blue Sam suit.