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Israel - Palestinian Conflict (46 Viewers)
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David O'Day
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Can you actually read? i thought the "bit thick nick" persona was just a bit of an act.
I have said I am referring to anyone who goes on an organised counter protest at the cenotaph and not normal people who are just in the area.
Is there an organised far right protest in Bedworth on Saturday? No, so why bring it up as once again no one is talking about normal people just people going to the organise event on Saturday at the cenotaph.
It's not hard to understand
David O'Day
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There will be no palestine march as that does not go near the cenotaph
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Yeah, I've found it nicer and more tolerant than Nuneaton for sure.
It's safe to say the pubs are shit though!
David O'Day
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Bedworth is sound, as you say much better than Funeaton(not a typo)
Nick
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So it is not only 1 group of people going there then, is it?
You were saying there's only 1 group of people going and it will be them who will kick off. I was trying to figure out if it was ticket only for skinheads with doc martins on.
Nick
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Can you actually read?
I said:
So there will be absolutely nobody around who's involved with that?
My point is that there will be:
1. People who just want peace marching.
2. People who just want to kick off, push their own shit, benefit from the movement.
3. People who just want to go and show their respects to those lost in the war.
4. People who just want to go and shout about Muslims
If you mix them up there's potential for it to kick off. It could be:
Number 2 pissing off number 3 and 4
Number 4 pissing off everybody
(not limited to those lists, but just saying it isn't as simple as "if it kicks off it's 100% these people because I dislike them")
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David O'Day
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You phrased it as a question and I answered it so once again you fail to read something correctly.
The march goes nowhere near the Cenotaph so no there will be no marchers there.
To make you try and understand this please see below the route of the march that doesn't go past the cenotaph:
Nick
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It will be amazing to see so many people strictly walk along that line and nowhere else.
David O'Day
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ever been on a march? they won't be able to go in a different direction as the police will close the route off
so one the march is not going by the cenotaph
Otis
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This is Saturday, not Remembrance Day.
I do now think however, due to all the shit stirring and firing people up, some now may well turn up at the cenotaph gunning for a confrontation.
People have been whipped into a frenzy over it, despite the march organisers saying the march is going nowhere near the cenotaph, because Braverman and the likes of the Mail keep saying that the cenotaph is at threat.
Without all the frenzy, the march would have gone ahead with no problems and you could have just protected the cenotaph with a couple of coppers if needed be.
It's ridiculously been blown out of all proportion by some of the press and then the likes of the home secretary.
They have raised the tension and anger levels and now some of the people are getting het up and their pitchforks at the ready.
It's utterly ridiculous. The press and government have stoked this situation of anger and any impending violence on Saturday.
Nick
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It's good that you are so confident in the police to contain it.
Nick
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Saturday 11th November, Remembrance Day.
David O'Day
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yeah as they do this all the time
shit that you are looking for arguments in a throw stuff at the wall and see if anything sticks style
Nick
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It's just common sense....
Sorry to question yet another bandwagon you are on. You must be black, Palestinian, disabled, transgender and everything from by now?
Otis
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David O'Day
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It's nonsense not "common sense", it's factually bullshit
Also the irony of the person who jumps on every gammon bandwagon mentioning bandwagons, you the perma offended bandwagon jumper Nick, own it.
Nick
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Alright then spider, there will be no mixing of people. The police will have it all under control.
David O'Day
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have you ever been on a march "bit thick"? Do you really think the police are going to let the march take a different route? do you think that every road from the march route to the cenotaph is not going to be blocked and the met aren't going to have more than enough personnel on the scene? They have controlled marches of 100's of thousands of people before and this will not be anything like that size so what makes you think they can't keep this on route? They dealt with marches of likely 7 figure crowds in the early austerity marches. Do you have anything apart from "common sense" to say they won't this time?
nicksar
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Hopefully the march on Saturday will be trouble free,however there will be plenty of pro Palestinian protesters elsewhere in London as is the case day in day out currently in central London...chanting all manner of abuse at people going in to the (seemingly) never ending list of eating establishments and shops that are "Jewish" owned and support Israel.
Otis
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It's sad to see.
I get that they can see footage and photos of people suffering in Gaza and violence by Israeli settlers against Palestinians in news feeds, but this is not the answer, to just go out and attack Jews and Jewish establishments in the UK and elsewhere.
It's always the innocents who get hurt.
skybluetony176
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It’s laughable. I’ve been to the 12th on a few occasions and it’s as far as I’ve seen an excuse for a piss up and wear a skirt… sorry I mean kilt. It’s true to say that there are some marches in areas where there are flashpoints in places like Derry and Belfast. But in the small country community where my family is from you’re just as likely to see catholics using it as an excuse for a piss up because they’ll have good Protestant friends involved. I must have been to a good half a dozen in my lifetime and have only seen trouble once. It was between 2 Protestant lads, one of which was my cousin and he was defending his sisters honour.
Nick
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OK then, there will be absolutely nobody off that route throughout London on Saturday. There is absolutely nobody at all around London unless they are on a designated route.
Common sense says there will be plenty.
David O'Day
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No one on the march will be allowed to change the route but nice attempt to change the rules. Going to mention Bedworth again? How about Coleshill? Alvechurch? Hinckley? Bulkington?
Common sense more like nonsense
Common sense more like nonsense
skybluetony176
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That’s Armistice Day. Remembrance day is Sunday. Armistice day is traditionally to remember those who died in WW1 as armistice refers to the Armistice of Compiegne which was famously signed on a railway carriage in France to end WW1. Remembrance Sunday is when homage is paid to all service men from all wars. To go all Alan Partridge it’s like saying Tannoy when you mean PA.
Nick
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Where have I said they will divert the route so everybody has to go a different way? . Unless you really think that out of however many hundred thousand they are going to teleport to the start of the route and then away from the end without being anywhere else in London at all.
You are so keen to try and act clever, read what I said.
Nick
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Remembrance Day is on Saturday. The 11th.
skybluetony176
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It really isn’t. I know it’s commonly referred to as Remembrance Day but they’re wrong. It is and always has officially been Armistice Day since 2018, the year the Armistice was signed on the 11th of November. Regardless of whether it’s a Saturday or not.
chiefdave
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Presumably shortly to be made a bank holiday as everyone, including the government, seems to think it’s incredibly disrespectful to do anything other than mark armistice on that day.
skybluetony176
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Ain’t it funny how many people all of a sudden give a shit about it. I’m amazed Nick isn’t shutting the forum for the day.
Otis
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Well, I would wear a black armband to mark the occasion, but as black appears in the flag of Palestine, I don't want to be seen as a terrorist sympathiser and supporter of Hamas.
