Torp or Hamer? (2 Viewers)

[standupforcity]

What a signing Torp is turning out to be..but is he better than Hamer? I really like his strength, vision and control.. hasn't put a foot wrong yet. When Sheaf is back what a duo that could be..

 

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[David O'Day]

Too early to tell and they are different types of player but the early signs are we have have a real player there.

 

[ms639]

Hamer.


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[ptr]

No need to compare. Looks to be a good signing and if we are thinking that already, then he’s going to be some player for us.

 

[Legia Sky Blue]

Ridiculous and unfair to even compare. Different players with different styles!

 

[covcity4life]

Hamer in number 10 role ahead of toep and sheaf be good to see if I hare left

Hopefully we get to prem and can buy him for no more than 15m as sheff utd go down lol

 

[SkyBlueMatt]

Early signs are looking good but let's not get too carried away.

He seems to have settled well and I'm really looking forward to seeing how him and Sheaf play together.

The future looks bright.

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[Martin180]

Hamer suited last year's style of play

Torp very much suits the squad and system this year

Would happily have both though

 

[SkyblueDad]

Silly to compare really, what I like about Torp is he gets the ball clean, no fouls, direct and superb distribution short or long. Hamer became the player we all loved towards his latter time here in his early days he was prone to silly fouls.
Would be interesting having both.

 

[skybluegod]

Totally different players and too early to compare. Hamer was more dynamic on the ball, and his ball carrying was fantastic. Torp looks classier and strong, less rash as well, but he isn't going to dribble past players.

 

[standupforcity]

Ridiculous and unfair to even compare. Different players with different styles!

Agreed on that.. but which would you chose to have in our team?

 

[Cally Fedora]

Hamer has a track record. Torp has potential. Torp looks a great find.

 

[Astute]

Agreed on that.. but which would you chose to have in our team?

Can we do this more fairly?

Hamer when he first joined or Torp when he first joined? Torp.

Hamer after his first season or Torp after his first season? We'll have to wait and see. But Torp is looking very promising.

 

[procdoc]

It’s far too early to make any comparisons

 

[David O'Day]

Totally different players and too early to compare. Hamer was more dynamic on the ball, and his ball carrying was fantastic. Torp looks classier and strong, less rash as well, but he isn't going to dribble past players.

In the video of him playing in Norway he is skinning players easily so they is the potential for that to come.

 

[Otis]

Too early to tell and they are different types of player but the early signs are we have have a real player there.

Not too early to tell at all.

Half of us couldn't even pronounce Hamer's name correctly, so it has to be Torp.

 

[shmmeee]

Hamer. Torp not shown the range of passing, technique, speed of thought or goal threat Hamer had yet. I’m sure certainly the latter two will come tho

 

[Astute]

Hamer. Torp not shown the range of passing, technique, speed of thought or goal threat Hamer had yet. I’m sure certainly the latter two will come tho

But when Hamer first joined us he was a liability.

Or are we comparing a finished article in Hamer with a new signing Torp?

 

[Skybluecol]

Hamer by a mile atm

Torp hasn't really been tested against decent opposition yet imo. He looks technically sound... his movement will need to be better against the teams with more quality in the Championship but its going to be great watching his development as there's potentially a very very good player there for us

 

[David O'Day]

Not too early to tell at all.

Half of us couldn't even pronounce Hamer's name correctly, so it has to be Torp.

I've been stung by players who seemed great at first too many times.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Hamer. Torp not shown the range of passing, technique, speed of thought or goal threat Hamer had yet. I’m sure certainly the latter two will come tho

Not sure how you can say that yet.
In his first 4 games Hamer had 0 goals 1 red card.

in Torps first he has a goal.

 

[stevefloyd]

Torp because he is our player and Hamer is not !!

 

[ovduk78]

But when Hamer first joined us he was a liability.

There were plenty on here saying Hamer was a liability midway through last season after his 2nd red card and they would have happily got rid of him in the January window. He is now being held in such high esteem, including by some of the same fans, based on a fantastic 2nd half of the season.

 

[Astute]

There were plenty on here saying Hamer was a liability midway through last season after his 2nd red card and they would have happily got rid of him in the January window. He is now being held in such high esteem, including by some of the same fans, based on a fantastic 2nd half of the season.

Some things are soon forgotten about.

 

[SkyBlueMatt]

Some things are soon forgotten about.

Torp, when he hits a tricky patch will no doubt be labelled as overrated and useless to some of our fan base.

 

[DannyThomas_1981]

Torp, when he hits a tricky patch will no doubt be labelled as overrated and useless to some of our fan base.

Exactly Matt. Very difficult to find even one player in our squad who hasn’t been written off gleefully by one of the self appointed experts on here. In the amazing world of ‘SBT expertise’, forwards should never miss chances, players should never be caught out of position covering for team mates, Maradona technical levels are expected across the pitch and shooting is expected from all corners. If a player fails on any of the above - the meltdown is inevitable and the calls go into the Samaritan’s.

 

[Astute]

Exactly Matt. Very difficult to find even one player in our squad who hasn’t been written off gleefully by one of the self appointed experts on here. In the amazing world of ‘SBT expertise’, forwards should never miss chances, players should never be caught out of position covering for team mates, Maradona technical levels are expected across the pitch and shooting is expected from all corners. If a player fails on any of the above - the meltdown is inevitable and the calls go into the Samaritan’s.

When you consider where we were when Robins came back it seems strange to me. SISU took the blame for everything (quite rightfully so) and the players got a free pass because they were crap.

Fast forward 7 years. We have the best squad we have had since at least the 90's. We've had players playing above what is seen as their level and still getting ripped apart. We spent over 20m and every one of them has been called crap and a waste of money....other than Torp. And we haven't seen the best of him yet. But I dread to think what will happen when he goes through a bad patch.

Some people need to step back and consider the journey we have been on and continue to be on. 7 seasons of constantly doing better than the season before. Just a penalty shoot out away from the Prem when many thought the Prem was just a pipe dream.

We all need to back the players. They're not as shite as many say.

 

[SkyblueDad]

We should never underestimate footie fans more so nowadays with the echo chamber of the internet & websites. A number on here will feel a bit lonely at the moment but their time will come again.

 

[Flying Fokker]

There were plenty on here saying Hamer was a liability midway through last season after his 2nd red card and they would have happily got rid of him in the January window. He is now being held in such high esteem, including by some of the same fans, based on a fantastic 2nd half of the season.

That was the season before last…again.

 

[ovduk78]

That was the season before last…again.

Hamer was sent off twice last season against Millwall and Birmingham in 1st 7 or 8 league games and afterwards there were many on here wanting him gone

 

[SeaSeeEffCee]

It’s been 5 games.

 

[Marty]

Hamer, Torp looks good, he'll be another one we make big money on, but IMO he's not quite upto speed of the championship yet. Which will obviously come. By the time the new seasons rolls around, he'll be flying and I think we'll be challenging for automatics.

 

[rob9872]

Torp looks good so far, but would love to add Hamer and Gyokeres to this squad, we'd be challenging autos imo.

 

[Domo]

on current form? Torp.
Hamer doesnt seem to settled (who could get settled in a rock bottom side) at sheffield.
i wonder if he has a relegation clause in his contract?

 

[fatso]

Torp because he is our player and Hamer is not !!

This is exactly why there's zero chance of any rational and fair debate on here.