USSR invades Ukraine. (18 Viewers)

[PVA]

I imagine the failed counter-offensive means that there's scepticism amongst Western countries, even if it's not publicly said. Billions of dollars was put towards weapons for it and it achieved next to nothing; it was supposed to have been the turning point in the war.

It failed because the west didn't give them what they needed.

 

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[Deleted member 9744]

Eliminating your enemies is hardly a new thing is it. I remember the death of Georgi Markov. There is something curiously quaint about it in a way. So John Le Carre.

Pretty weird to call murder quaint.

 

[djr8369]

Just staggering the number of posters regurgitating Russian talking points from GB News while trying to sound smugly smart.

 

[Grendel]

It failed because the west didn't give them what they needed.

Good

 

[Grendel]

Just staggering the number of posters regurgitating Russian talking points from GB News while trying to sound smugly smart.

Im certainly not doing that

 

[djr8369]

Im certainly not doing that

Just a coincidence then?

 

[Grendel]

Pretty weird to call murder quaint.

Oh it’s kind of funny really - the old Soviet style of murder. It is a bit nostalgic

 

[Grendel]

Just a coincidence then?

I guess you watch a lot of GB News - I don’t

 

[PVA]

Pretty weird to call murder quaint.

One can only imagine how he'd react if someone called an IRA murder quaint.

 

[PVA]

Good

You think the torture, rape and murder of innocent people is good?

It's a take I suppose.

 

[djr8369]

I guess you watch a lot of GB News - I don’t

Never seen it but have seen their articles online.

 

[PVA]

Just staggering the number of posters regurgitating Russian talking points from GB News while trying to sound smugly smart.

Seems to be getting worse, sadly.

 

[Grendel]

You think the torture, rape and murder of innocent people is good?

It's a take I suppose.

No that’s why I believe a solution needs to be found - unlike you

 

[Grendel]

One can only imagine how he'd react if someone called an IRA murder quaint.

Blowing innocent women and children in McDonald’s was definitely not - but some of your chums on here support this

 

[PVA]

Blowing innocent women and children in McDonald’s was definitely not - but some of your chums on here support this

That's exactly what Russia are doing. You support this.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

Oh it’s kind of funny really - the old Soviet style of murder. It is a bit nostalgic

Murder is funny now?

Is it only funny if it is carried out by a totalitarian state? Or only some states? Just like to know which murders we should find funny and which we shouldn't.

 

[Grendel]

That's exactly what Russia are doing. You support this.

They aren’t and I don’t

 

[PVA]

They aren’t

What the fuck? What is wrong with you

They've indiscriminately murdered thousands of innocent civilians. How can you deny this?

 

[Grendel]

What the fuck? What is wrong with you

They've indiscriminately murdered thousands of innocent civilians. How can you deny this?

Civilians die in war - I’m sorry if this an affront to your precious sensitivities but that’s the way it goes

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Eliminating your enemies is hardly a new thing is it. I remember the death of Georgi Markov. There is something curiously quaint about it in a way. So John Le Carre.

Unacceptable levels of corruption in Ukraine
Even higher levels of corruption. invasion of other countries and murdering of political rivals in Russia

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

If we’re going back to pre WW2 geopolitics LFG. Move Taiwan to somewhere in Utah en masse then bring it, I reckon we win. Also fuck it lets go back in for Calais, solve the small boat problem once and for all.

Once more unto the breach my friends, once more!

 

[PVA]

Unacceptable levels of corruption in Ukraine
Even higher levels of corruption. invasion of other countries and murdering of political rivals in Russia

Blowing up innocent people in McDonald’s
Blowing up innocent people in hospitals and supermarkets


Call me old fashioned but I think they're both appalling.

 

[Grendel]

Blowing up innocent people in McDonald’s
Blowing up innocent people in hospitals and supermarkets


Call me old fashioned but I think they're both appalling.

You are failing to distinguish between terrorism and war

 

[shmmeee]

You are failing to distinguish between terrorism and war

And you fail to acknowledge the existence of war crimes.

 

[Grendel]

And you fail to acknowledge the existence of war crimes.

No country involved in war - including Ukraine - plays by the rules

 

[skybluetony176]

Nothing to see here. It’s just the quaintness of war

Avdiivka: Russia accused of executing prisoners of war after Ukraine withdraws

The BBC speaks to relatives after video shows bodies of soldiers who are believed to have surrendered.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Grendel]

Ukraine war crimes good

Russia war crimes bad

 

[Grendel]

Guess that’s the level we are at now here

 

[PVA]

Ukraine war crimes good

Russia war crimes bad

Literally no one has said that.

 

[shmmeee]

No country involved in war - including Ukraine - plays by the rules

See, you’re doing it again.

 

[shmmeee]

Literally no one has said that.

No you don’t understand. Two wrongs make a right and only people who are unimpeachable on Grendels personal morality scale are allowed to complain about anything. Everyone else is the deserving poor/genocide victim.

 

[Grendel]

See, you’re doing it again.

They don’t and there’s a huge distinction between terrorism and war. The fact is if you like it or not many Russians view Ukraine as their territory - in the case of Crimea it’s Russian in their eyes and it’s takeover was seen by the population as legitimate

Zelensky is a corrupt grubby little man with a desire to make money. Putin is a murdering gangster with a desire to make even more money.

We shouldn’t be involved

 

[PVA]

No you don’t understand. Two wrongs make a right and only people who are unimpeachable on Grendels personal morality scale are allowed to complain about anything. Everyone else is the deserving poor/genocide victim.

Ah you're right. There's more important things than war crimes to get angry about. Zelensky's facial hair for example.

 

[shmmeee]

They don’t and there’s a huge distinction between terrorism and war. The fact is if you like it or not many Russians view Ukraine as their territory - in the case of Crimea it’s Russian in their eyes and it’s takeover was seen by the population as legitimate

Zelensky is a corrupt grubby little man with a desire to make money. Putin is a murdering gangster with a desire to make even more money.

We shouldn’t be involved

Grendels weird binary ethics system strikes again.

Russia are very openly carrying out genocide. Their stated aim is the removal of Ukraine as a concept. Their poor grasp of history, like Hitlers, like Nethenyahus, is irrelevant unless you’re desperately scraping around to try and justify your edgy positions of course. In which case wearing a hoodie as a leader and systematically kidnapping children and performing brainwashing on them are morally equivalent.

Got to admire your persistence at sticking to a bit, but it doesn’t half force you to look a clown sometimes.

 

[PVA]

That's the the problem with taking such stupid, edgy, views. They always come back to make you look a total clown when you try and defend various other positions totally at odds to other views on other topics.