Callum O'Hare (18 Viewers)

[Mucca Mad Boys]

It might be cynical but ultimately footballers need to be selfish and look out for number one, particularly those who've already had one serious long term injury. It would make perfect sense for him to tone down his efforts with a transfer in the bag so he doesn't risk an injury in the process.

I don’t disagree with that but doubt Robins would allow passengers at this stage of the season.

How set in stone is his new deal? Would his form not impact the numbers involved in said deal?

 

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[Mucca Mad Boys]

Good lad dont blame him.

Are you a Cov supporter or a COH supporter?

If any player is half arsing it, they can pack their bags and clear off. It doesn’t matter who they are.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I don’t disagree with that but doubt Robins would allow passengers at this stage of the season.

How set in stone is his new deal? Would his form not impact the numbers involved in said deal?

Could be anywhere from something already signed and sealed to just a verbal agreement conditional on him staying fit. He's not being unprofessional by just putting in 6/10 performances until the season finishes.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Vik and Hamer both know they'd be off but played their guts out every minute they were here. To be clear, I don't buy in to CoH having 'downed tools' but if I'm following the thread, you're saying you don't blame him if he has. Don't get that at all. It's a weird take.

I’m saying I don’t blame him for being happy he’s going with the disrespect he’s getting from fans. To suggest he’s downed tools is ridiculous

 

[Hincha]

O'Hare's stats -

Tackles per 90:
20/21: 2
23/24: 1.1

Times fouled per 90:
20/21: 2.6
23/24: 1.4

Fouls per 90:
20/21: 1.4
23/24: 0.6

Dribbles per 90:
20/21: 2.1
23/24: 0.7

All the stats point to a player who is worried about getting injured again and isn't getting stuck in. Happens a lot with players recovering from ACL injuries, don't think it is because he has downed tools.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I’m saying I don’t blame him for being happy he’s going with the disrespect he’s getting from fans. To suggest he’s downed tools is ridiculous

I think COH is a big boy and doesn’t care what any of us on this forum says.

Ironically, you‘ve gone from ‘calling out’ nonsense to speaking it.

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

I think COH is a big boy and doesn’t care what any of us on this forum says.

Ironically, you‘ve gone from ‘calling out’ nonsense to speaking it.

When I watch " City Unseen" he clearly wants to be the centre of attention.

 

[Gint11]

Id love him to stay, he’s played a bit part in our rise but he wants to go so we move on. We wish him the best.

 

[Sick Boy]

So both you and @Ccfcisparks duck the question.

Stop making up nonsense about I’m saying. Saying a player is replaceable does not mean they are mediocre or that I wouldn’t offer him a new contract.

COH has been offered a contract and has apparently rejected it because he knows where he’s going next. There won’t be anyone on this that will not thank him for his part in our journey. He’s helped us, we’ve helped him and players coming and going is part and parcel of the game.

We need a replacement, that’s all there is to it. There are better players out there and according to @Saddlebrains, our targets are ‘shit hot’.

New heroes emerge and we’re on the up.

I’m not ducking the question, it just doesn’t really make much sense because most of his stats over his time with us have been while playing in the Championship but I’m supposed to imagine that they’re actually from League One?

 

[shmmeee]

I think he came back really keen to earn the transfer he missed out on last time, busted a gut to produce those performances, earned the transfer then cooled his jets.

This is the simplest and most obvious answer.

But have you considered that some of us really like O’Hare? And it would make us sad if he didn’t like us back the same way? Also some of us have invested a lot of our online personality in how terrible Kasey Palmer is so seeing him keep our boy out the team is very distressing.

 

[Sick Boy]

This is the simplest and most obvious answer.

But have you considered that some of us really like O’Hare? And it would make us sad if he didn’t like us back the same way? Also some of us have invested a lot of our online personality in how terrible Kasey Palmer is so seeing him keep our boy out the team is very distressing.

…or it lacks class to suddenly decide a player isn’t actually that good because he’s decided to leave and play at a higher level.

 

[Martin180]

…or it lacks class to suddenly decide a player isn’t actually that good because he’s decided to leave and play at a higher level.

Has anybody said he isn't that good?

 

[rob9872]

Big fan whilst he's here but that's it. We stood by him through injury, if he doesn't t want to be here, thanks and good luck, move on. Fek him.

 

[Sick Boy]

Has anybody said he isn't that good?

Of course they won’t actually say that directly.

 

[Liquid Gold]

COH has been more consistent and influential in his time here than Hamer was.

I'm sorry, I really dislike the alcoholic kebab hound turncoat midget, but to say O'Hare has been more influential is madness.

 

[rob9872]

I'm sorry, I really dislike the alcoholic kebab hound turncoat midget, but to say O'Hare has been more influential is madness.

Tbf over longevity I tend to agree. His ppg must be up there and was part of L1 winning squad too.

 

[PVA]

COH has been more consistent and influential in his time here than Hamer was.

I'm sorry but this is absolutely nuts.

Hamer dragged us to the playoff final almost single handedly when Vik wasn't quite firing.

As much as I love O'Hare he hasn't done anything as influential as scoring in a playoff semi and a playoff final (yet!).

 

[PVA]

It’s actually very easy to find. He was on £20k a week at Bristol and rejected a move to Cardiff as he said he would see out his contract - we took the contract as part of the fee arrangement

Your in depth knowledge of the minutae of Palmer's contract never ceases to amaze.

Funny how it's only his contract you seem to know every last detail about.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Your in depth knowledge of the minutae of Palmer's contract never ceases to amaze.

Funny how it's only his contract you seem to know every last detail about.

He's Palmer's agent

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I’m not ducking the question, it just doesn’t really make much sense because most of his stats over his time with us have been while playing in the Championship but I’m supposed to imagine that they’re actually from League One?

Why? He’s probably going to go to a Prem team/relegated from the Prem.

Whilst we’re being more specific, I said lower Champ/L1 because that’s probably where we’ll try to find a replacement.

You could apply that any European league also if you really want. You had people who were unconvinced with Hadji Wright who had a better than a 1 in 2 record in Turkey. Likewise, with Simms with a career average of 1 in 3 in Championship, L1 and Scotland.

Statistically, COH goals and assists record isn’t a lot to shout about. I don’t think he starts for the teams that are likely to be promoted to/relegated from the Prem.

A little statistical insight into his performance. His xG & xA per 90 has been decreasing from 2021/22.

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[Sick Boy]

Why? He’s probably going to go to a Prem team/relegated from the Prem.

Whilst we’re being more specific, I said lower Champ/L1 because that’s probably where we’ll try to find a replacement.

You could apply that any European league also if you really want. You had people who were unconvinced with Hadji Wright who had a better than a 1 in 2 record in Turkey. Likewise, with Simms with a career average of 1 in 3 in Championship, L1 and Scotland.

Statistically, COH goals and assists record isn’t a lot to shout about. I don’t think he starts for the teams that are likely to be promoted to/relegated from the Prem.

A little statistical insight into his performance. His xG & xA per 90 has been decreasing from 2021/22.

Callum O'Hare Stats, Goals, Records, Assists, Cups and more | FBref.com

Check out the latest domestic and international stats, match logs, goals, height, weight and more for Callum O'Hare playing for Coventry City FC, Aston Villa FC and Aston Villa FC U23 in the Championship, Premier League 2 — Division 2 and League One

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I think he’ll end up in the top-flight outside of the UK. I don’t think he’s stopped trying, he’s come back from a long-term injury and won’t be back to his best until the start of next season, unfortunately for us.

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

@Saddlebrains any updates on potential replacements?

 

[Saddlebrains]

@Saddlebrains any updates on potential replacements?

Nowt other than the targets are 'exciting'

 

[itsabuzzard]

…or it lacks class to suddenly decide a player isn’t actually that good because he’s decided to leave and play at a higher level.

Frankly, that would be a ridiculous stance to take.
As others have pointed out, if we're going to push for an automatic space or even win the league, we'll need a number of players better than the ones we've got.

 

[AOM]

@Saddlebrains any updates on potential replacements?

Don't shoot the messenger, but I've heard there are "Bright" things to come in the summer

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Don't shoot the messenger, but I've heard there are "Bright" things to come in the summer

Return of the Mack?

 

[larry_david]

Joking aside about Bright, he must be looking at Covs performances and results and kicking himself for being an utter twat

 

[skybluegod]

We offered O Hare a new and improved contract to keep him - let’s see what Palmer gets offered having already had a reduction in pay this season

Reduction in pay?? Have I missed a whole story here?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Reduction in pay?? Have I missed a whole story here?

We took over his (expensive) Bristol contract in lieu of paying a fee for him, then the other 2 years of the deal are on reduced wages

 

[SBT]

We took over his (expensive) Bristol contract in lieu of paying a fee for him, then the other 2 years of the deal are on reduced wages

Uhhh according to Palmer’s agent (cc @Grendel) we did pay a fee for him?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Uhhh according to Palmer’s agent (cc @Grendel) we did pay a fee for him?

This may be why he has only one client on his books.

 

[SBT]

This may be why he has only one client on his books.

Monster monster!

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Monster monster!

Pickled Onion or Flamin' Hot?

 

[SBT]

Pickled Onion or Flamin' Hot?

I’m guessing Grendel had both for breakfast but that’s really a question for him

 

[skybluegod]

We took over his (expensive) Bristol contract in lieu of paying a fee for him, then the other 2 years of the deal are on reduced wages

Ahhh I had completely missed that. Thanks!