Call to arms (12 Viewers)

[@richh87]

Anyone on here who wasn't going up on Saturday now changed their minds?

We need a couple of thousand on the gate. These two wins must have stirred up some passion and pride surely?

We need stay away fans back! And back now!

At the Scunthorpe game I vowed not to go again til the team got themselves top half and showed me they're not total shite, however the last 2 results have persuaded me to go back. Come on City - let's use this momentum!

 

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[dongonzalos]

I will be there, really want to see them do pompey

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Come on duffy,you know these kids are always right.

Yeah, I mean, all we do is watch Countdown eh Valiant.

 

[CovisGod]

Missing tomorrow due to my Nieces birthday party. I've already asked if I can bring my iPad so you fine folks can keep me updated during pass the parcel

 

[Ashdown]

Actually, your comparison withe the country's financial position and ours is spot on, but not in the conclusions both you and the government draw. Evidence shows that the more a club pays in wages, the higher up the league they get, In the country's case, cutting spending results in the economy shrinking, more borrowing to pay for more unemployment, and the debt going up (see the latest figures). In the club's case, cutting costs leads to poorer results, lower gates, less revenue, debt going up.
In both cases, a modest injection of spending (building houses/buying McGoldrick) will almost certainly lead to a growing economy/bigger crowds, more revenue, and therefore less debt.
It's all about the economy, stupid (that's q quote from Bill Clinton, not a comment on your intellect)

Building houses and migration is about all the opposition can come up with though, its pitiful

 

[dongonzalos]

Hate to question your political ideology but there are no cuts. Yesterday's figures showed that YOY borrowing has increased.

There certainly are cuts. Unfortunately we have people ranking up there with SISU for financial incompetence implementing them.

They are making some savage cuts, leading to more fear and a downward spiral towards double dip recessions. They then realease scare mongering press statements before implementing a further cut, in order to justify it. The people who do have money won't spend it just in case. Bussineses won't take a small gamble and employ an extra member of staff just in case......... So on so on so on.

Despite their drastic cuts they feed the fear and the recession leading to forced increased speanding in safeguarded matters.

Tim Fisher, George Osborne, David Cameron.

Cameron and Osborne are really Iranian spies trying to destroy us and doing it very well.

Fisher is the leader of the Leicesters supporters club.

This is the only way I can find rational in their decision making.

Sorry rant over

 

[cloughie]

The reality is, the majority of boycotters don't go to either home or away games, where my point does apply, the boycotters who go to away games, fair play, but home is bread butter stuff.

The reality is? where do you get this 'fact' from ?

I had to buy my own ST this year, so I'm not exactly immune to it all and my head stuck in the clouds.

Who pays for where you live and who pays for your food? Season ticket is probably all you have to worry about

They may be infamous in the financial world, no one said that (or I don't know of anyone who said that) they were notorious and couldn't be trusted,

Taken from a newspaper article

Sisu keeps a determinedly low profile but was catapulted into the limelight two years ago when its chief executive Joy Seppala, a 46-year-old Finnish-American, was accused of lying in a High Court wrangle over bust electricity company TXU.
Seppala who is described by rivals as having "balls of steel", was criticised by the trial judge over her "distorted recollection of events" and for being "prone to exaggerate".

Not naive, .

Not naive?...... hmmmmm

 

[dongonzalos]

I have no party affiliations, although I can certainly state that I could never be or condone socialism the way it is practiced in the UK.
The bottom line is; no-one should spend more than they "earn". If you can't pay for it, don't buy it. If you don't have the money, don't spend it. This goes for governments and companies and families and individuals. No-one should spend money they do not have.
And if they do spend money they do not have and get into debt, they need to do whatever it takes to get out of debt as quickly as they sensibly can and then make sure they never get into debt again. (Note: mortgages excluded from this if mortgage is sensible from earnings perspective - that is a different aspect, as is sensible borrowing to start a new business etc.). The argument should be "what constitutes sensible measures", and never about more spending. You cannot spend your way out of debt.
Trouble is people, companies and governments have come to accept debt as a proper and normal state of being, which it is NOT, even though banks and other financial institutions have pushed debt as a "good" thing for years to their own benefit and everyone else's downfall.
Football is a prime example of how not to conduct finances. Surely anyone would find it hard to disagree, and if you do, just look at Porstmaouth and their attempt to spend their way out of debt. Look at Coventry and Richardson's attempt to overspend us into Europe and the really big league. Football is (very) slowly but surely coming to its senses and imposing punishments on clubs that spend more than they earn and have introduced financial rules (years too late in my opinion, but better late that never).
Bottom line for everyone: don't spend what you haven't got, and if you do get into debt, do whatever is necessary - no matter how painful in the short term - to get out of debt and stay out of debt.

Agree and when you make cuts to sort it out.

Make sure they are done in the most sensible effective way that you don't stamp all over the fine balance of stimulating growth.

When you are making drastic cuts yet still increasing public spending you have to know you are getting something very very wrong.

Like spending 100 million on police crime commissioners that the public did not ask for and have clearly shown they don't care about.

Crazy money on a nice to have as oppose to a desperately need to have.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Not naive?...... hmmmmm

The 'fact' isin the attendances, home attendances are down (not just because of boycotters, economy and league were in ow plays a big part) and away attendances similar, not much change, I'm pretty sure slightly down, it is a fact the majority of the boycotters don't go to either home or awa games... Unless you can prove otherwise!?

You've misunderstood, I never said, oh I'm feeling the heights of the recession, I have to buy my ST, I'm saying that I'm aware that times are tough for ordinary people who are cutting costs, like my mum, who said, you want ST? you're going to have to buy it youself this year. I don't see how your point was relevant.

I was saying before SISU came in, no one cared about how notorious they were in the financial world, I never seen that nor heard of it before or just after they brought us. And I know what people are referring to now is a newspaper article about SISU.

None of you points were really relevant Cloughie.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I have no party affiliations, although I can certainly state that I could never be or condone socialism the way it is practiced in the UK.
The bottom line is; no-one should spend more than they "earn". If you can't pay for it, don't buy it. If you don't have the money, don't spend it. This goes for governments and companies and families and individuals. No-one should spend money they do not have.
And if they do spend money they do not have and get into debt, they need to do whatever it takes to get out of debt as quickly as they sensibly can and then make sure they never get into debt again. (Note: mortgages excluded from this if mortgage is sensible from earnings perspective - that is a different aspect, as is sensible borrowing to start a new business etc.). The argument should be "what constitutes sensible measures", and never about more spending. You cannot spend your way out of debt.
Trouble is people, companies and governments have come to accept debt as a proper and normal state of being, which it is NOT, even though banks and other financial institutions have pushed debt as a "good" thing for years to their own benefit and everyone else's downfall.
Football is a prime example of how not to conduct finances. Surely anyone would find it hard to disagree, and if you do, just look at Porstmaouth and their attempt to spend their way out of debt. Look at Coventry and Richardson's attempt to overspend us into Europe and the really big league. Football is (very) slowly but surely coming to its senses and imposing punishments on clubs that spend more than they earn and have introduced financial rules (years too late in my opinion, but better late that never).
Bottom line for everyone: don't spend what you haven't got, and if you do get into debt, do whatever is necessary - no matter how painful in the short term - to get out of debt and stay out of debt.

In terms of football then, the fans who complain the owners do not invest that much into playing staff (because we can't afford it) are wrong? I agree. If you look at our recent history, spending your way to the big time doesn't necessarily work (Richardson) and it doesn't work unless you have a billionaire who is a cash cow that will wipe debt after debt etc.

 

[Astute]

Spending big does work. Ask Cardiff and Fester

 

[valiant15]

Oh no,you had to buy your own season ticket. Isnt life hard eh?

 

[Astute]

Get to work and pay for his ST Valiant

 

[harvey098]

Don't really get this. He didnt come across as feeling sorry for himself. There are enough 18 year olds who don't do anything with thier lives so mocking him for earning his own money to buy his own season ticket is puzzling.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Get to work and pay for his ST Valiant

I have my own job, and income, thanks

I wasn't saying my life is hard, that's a misconception.

 

[BurbageSkyBlues]

My life is hard......










As a CCFC fan

 

[valiant15]

Fair play to you taylor for getting off your backside and working,i respect you for that. Astute,I'm just about to leave to do a bit over friday evening overtime 6-11,ive got a fridge full of beer and I'm now regretting saying yes,grrr.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Fair play to you taylor for getting off your backside and working,i respect you for that. Astute,I'm just about to leave to do a bit over friday evening overtime 6-11,ive got a fridge full of beer and I'm now regretting saying yes,grrr.

Just got from work myself, got called when in school asking if I could work because one of my colleagues had a car crash...

And thanks

 

[valiant15]

No probs,enjoy the game,

 

[Grendel]

No probs,enjoy the game,

I think I am going to throw up.

 

[dongonzalos]

I think I am going to throw up.

That's the evil burning inside you. If you were a happier person that comment would have left you with a warm feeling inside.

 

[valiant15]

Normal service will be resumed asap im sure.

 

[Astute]

Fair play to you taylor for getting off your backside and working,i respect you for that. Astute,I'm just about to leave to do a bit over friday evening overtime 6-11,ive got a fridge full of beer and I'm now regretting saying yes,grrr.

Another 4 hours to go on a 12 hr shift here

 

[ccfc92]

Just to refresh the point of this thread...

EVERYBODY GET TO THE RICOH TODAY!!!!!

 

[valiant15]

Think of the money astute!

 

[cloughie]

The 'fact' isin the attendances, home attendances are down (not just because of boycotters, economy and league were in ow plays a big part) and away attendances similar, not much change, I'm pretty sure slightly down, it is a fact the majority of the boycotters don't go to either home or awa games... Unless you can prove otherwise!?
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You obviously are privvy to the 'FACTS' as you claim, regarding boycotters, I look forward to reading your evidence and sources for this as you must be able to prove this

You've misunderstood, I never said, oh I'm feeling the heights of the recession, I have to buy my ST, I'm saying that I'm aware that times are tough for ordinary people who are cutting costs, like my mum, who said, you want ST? you're going to have to buy it youself this year. I don't see how your point was relevant.

You have said on other threads that your mates and their families aren't going this year because they can't afford it , but to you it's an excuse.
How about 20% increase on gas electric costs petrol price hikes and the ever increasing food prices. But these won't affect you as you only pay for your season ticket!!

WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR MUM COULDN'T AFFORD YOUR SEASON TICKET THIS YEAR?

I was saying before SISU came in, no one cared about how notorious they were in the financial world, I never seen that nor heard of it before or just after they brought us. And I know what people are referring to now is a newspaper article about SISU.

So a high court Judge publicly states Joy Seppala, a 46-year-old Finnish-American, was accused of lying in a High Court wrangle over bust electricity company TXU. and her "distorted recollection of events" and for being "prone to exaggerate" is just newspaper talk.

Do some research you will find those comments are factual

None of you points were really relevant Cloughie.[/QUOTE

It could be a long wait but we will see if the penny drops

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

The 'fact' isin the attendances, home attendances are down (not just because of boycotters, economy and league were in ow plays a big part) and away attendances similar, not much change, I'm pretty sure slightly down, it is a fact the majority of the boycotters don't go to either home or awa games... Unless you can prove otherwise!?
'
You obviously are privvy to the 'FACTS' as you claim, regarding boycotters, I look forward to reading your evidence and sources for this as you must be able to prove this

You've misunderstood, I never said, oh I'm feeling the heights of the recession, I have to buy my ST, I'm saying that I'm aware that times are tough for ordinary people who are cutting costs, like my mum, who said, you want ST? you're going to have to buy it youself this year. I don't see how your point was relevant.

You have said on other threads that your mates and their families aren't going this year because they can't afford it , but to you it's an excuse.
How about 20% increase on gas electric costs petrol price hikes and the ever increasing food prices.

WHY DO YOU THINK YOUR MUM COULDN'T AFFORD YOUR SEASON TICKET THIS YEAR?

I was saying before SISU came in, no one cared about how notorious they were in the financial world, I never seen that nor heard of it before or just after they brought us. And I know what people are referring to now is a newspaper article about SISU.

So a high court Judge publicly states Joy Seppala, a 46-year-old Finnish-American, was accused of lying in a High Court wrangle over bust electricity company TXU. and her "distorted recollection of events" and for being "prone to exaggerate" is just newspaper talk.

Do some research you will find those comments are factual

None of you points were really relevant Cloughie.[/QUOTE

It could be a long wait but we will see if the penny drops

On the boycotters argument, find evidence to disprove me. My evidence, small sample, how many boycotters on SBT go to away games go to home games. It is a lazy excuse not to go to the games. I know people who went up, who are now 'boycotters' now we're in L1, they'd soon change their stance if we in the prem or got a really good cup draw (v Villa or big team)

I never questioned why I had to pay for my ST, I stated it. I'm well aware of gas and electric companies of hiking their prices (BBC 3 show 'The Revolution Will Be Televised' did a good piece on it and I've watched the news obviously)

I never said it was paper talk [on Joy] I said people were referring to a newspaper article of which it said the above about Joy.

 

[cloughie]

On the boycotters argument, find evidence to disprove me. My evidence, small sample, how many boycotters on SBT go to away games go to home games. It is a lazy excuse not to go to the games. I know people who went up, who are now 'boycotters' now we're in L1, they'd soon change their stance if we in the prem or got a really good cup draw (v Villa or big team)

What evidence?

obviously some will not go as we drop down the leagues regardless but there are more worrying issues for many that would love to go

I never questioned why I had to pay for my ST, I stated it. I'm well aware of gas and electric companies of hiking their prices (BBC 3 show 'The Revolution Will Be Televised' did a good piece on it and I've watched the news obviously)

I really don't know why I bother,,,,,,,,, if your mum couldn't afford it don't you think there maybe lots of other people in the same position

I never said it was paper talk [on Joy] I said people were referring to a newspaper article of which it said the above about Joy.

I quote you previously

'They may be infamous in the financial world, no one said that (or I don't know of anyone who said that) they were notorious and couldn't be trusted',

I have shown you were it is said they can't be trusted

going to bed had enough :wave:

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I quote you previously

'They may be infamous in the financial world, no one said that (or I don't know of anyone who said that) they were notorious and couldn't be trusted',

I have shown you were it is said they can't be trusted

going to bed had enough :wave:

Don't let the bed bugs bite.

That quote though, was when we first got took over by SISU. Not when the vast majority or discontented with the ownership and now, in League 1.