Sheffield Wednesday Fan Banned (2 Viewers)

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

I'm not sure where you get that silly implication from, I've not shared his address.

I have not implied anything you came out with the stupid statement that people could get his address and the company he part owns I said why would you want to .

 

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[mark82]

Looks to own a drainage company in Sheffield according to company house, don’t think that will be good for business!

Let's be honest, there will be a certain element that won't be bothered about that.

 

[clint van damme]

In real life perhaps, but on Sky Blues Talk we can go back 20 years to prove rights and wrongs.

Lucky for him they haven't yet got spread sheets in Sheffield.

 

[theferret]

I did that too and you're obviously nicer than me as I was going to post it on here, but as you've not, I'll follow your lead.

Why would you even consider that? That company might have employees and families that are dependent. Condemn the man by all means, but no need for that. Of course, I am aware that you didn't post it so fine, but odd this has even been raised tbh.

 

[rob9872]

That company might have employees and families that are dependent.

He's a 21 year old director of a drainage business. I don't get the impression he's Richard Branson.

 

[Skybluekyle]

Lucky for him they haven't yet got spread sheets in Sheffield.

I need a job and proficient in Microsoft Office packages (at least according to my CV), I can teach them....which way is Sheffield, again?

 

[theferret]

He's a 21 year old director of a drainage business. I don't get the impression he's Richard Branson.

So what? Even if he has 3 employees (which the company does according to CH having just checked), why would you bring those people into it? If I was punished every time I'd worked for a boss who was a twat, I'd be even more fucked than I am now.

 

[rob9872]

So what? Even if he has 3 employees (which the company does according to CH having just checked), why would you bring those people into it? If I was punished every time I'd worked for a boss who was a twat, I'd be even more fucked than I am now.

Just so we're clear .... you're really criticising someone looking up his business whilst looking up in detail at his business for an Internet argument. Seek help immediately!

Edit: this is the guy btw who brought his racist views to Kasey's place of work, affecting a few more than three people, but you go on looking out for him

 

[napolimp]

So what? Even if he has 3 employees (which the company does according to CH having just checked), why would you bring those people into it? If I was punished every time I'd worked for a boss who was a twat, I'd be even more fucked than I am now.

Who gives a shit, fingers crossed everyone boycotts them. Businesses with far more employees than them have been boycotted before. Hope he falls into a gutter.

 

[rob9872]

Who gives a shit, fingers crossed everyone boycotts them. Businesses with far more employees than them have been boycotted before. Hope he falls into a gutter.

He probably feels sorry for Sun journalists or traffic wardens.

Tbh I wouldn't want to work for him and make his drainage business money anyway. I doubt it's skilled labour, but if it is there's plenty of others happy to take you on, if it's minimum wage then flip burgers at McDonald's instead. Loads of low paying jobs out there if people want them, even in Sheffield.

 

[San Francisco]

This is a good outcome. Fines and/or lengthy bans make good deterrents IMO. People calling for prison sentences are off their rocker though. Let the clubs deal with these sorts of offences.

 

[theferret]

Just so we're clear .... you're really criticising someone looking up his business whilst looking up in detail at his business for an Internet argument. Seek help immediately!

Edit: this is the guy btw who brought his racist views to Kasey's place of work, affecting a few more than three people, but you go on looking out for him

I had no intention of looking up his business until it was being discussed how many employees he might have so I did a quick 30 second check. The criticism btw was the suggestion that people should go after his business to take it down. That's weird behaviour.

The guy fucked up. Complete arsehole. He has been publicly shamed and has been banned. You want more, you want to see him destroyed, regardless of the collateral damage to people around him? Put the pitchfork away.

 

[rob9872]

I had no intention of looking up his business until it was being discussed how many employees he might have so I did a quick 30 second check. The criticism btw was the suggestion that people should go after his business to take it down. That's weird behaviour.

The guy fucked up. Complete arsehole. He has been publicly shamed and has been banned. You want more, you want to see him destroyed, regardless of the collateral damage to people around him? Put the pitchfork away.

You're making assumptions that weren't said again to suit your weak argument. Quit whilst behind.

 

[LastGarrison]

I had no intention of looking up his business until it was being discussed how many employees he might have so I did a quick 30 second check. The criticism btw was the suggestion that people should go after his business to take it down. That's weird behaviour.

The guy fucked up. Complete arsehole. He has been publicly shamed and has been banned. You want more, you want to see him destroyed, regardless of the collateral damage to people around him? Put the pitchfork away.

Although I appreciate your point re going after his business I don’t think you can say ‘he fucked up’.

He stood in the stands and made monkey gestures to a person of colour. That isn’t a silly mistake that is pure ingrained racism and perhaps non-football fans should be aware of this prior to choosing to do business with him and his company?

 

[Grendel]

I had no intention of looking up his business until it was being discussed how many employees he might have so I did a quick 30 second check. The criticism btw was the suggestion that people should go after his business to take it down. That's weird behaviour.

The guy fucked up. Complete arsehole. He has been publicly shamed and has been banned. You want more, you want to see him destroyed, regardless of the collateral damage to people around him? Put the pitchfork away.

It’s not actually his business. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t even work there

 

[theferret]

Although I appreciate your point re going after his business I don’t think you can say ‘he fucked up’.

He stood in the stands and made monkey gestures to a person of colour. That isn’t a silly mistake that is pure ingrained racism and perhaps non-football fans should be aware of this prior to choosing to do business with him and his company?

Well that term is hardly the sum total of my thoughts on what he did, I didn't feel I needed to expand on that. I'm perfectly fine with those who might argue that the punishment he received personally wasn't sufficient. I am commenting on this odd modern day phenomenon where people want to go after the livelihoods of people, specifically of people deemed guilty by association. I see this all the time from culture warriors from both sides, and they have all seemingly convinced themselves they are the good guys.

A racist has been exposed, shamed, and punished. Totally fine with people who say the punishment should have been greater. Also fine with people who don't believe people can change, improve, grow and learn. I'm not entirely convinced about that, but I am sure there are people not capable of that, so fine. Not sure what I am saying here that is not measured and reasonable.

 

[Grendel]

So what? Even if he has 3 employees (which the company does according to CH having just checked), why would you bring those people into it? If I was punished every time I'd worked for a boss who was a twat, I'd be even more fucked than I am now.

It hasn’t got 3 employees in truth

 

[PVA]

It’s not actually his business. I wouldn’t be surprised if he doesn’t even work there

Claiming to know the precise details of Kasey Palmer's contract is one thing, but acting like you know the inner workings and management structure of a small drainage company in Sheffield might be a step too far.

 

[Grendel]

Claiming to know the precise details of Kasey Palmer's contract is one thing, but acting like you know the inner workings and management structure of a small drainage company in Sheffield might be a step too far.

There are 3 “employees” - 2 are him and his father. He was made a director at 18.

It’s set up so dividends are paid for tax advantages and share capital.

Plenty of parents make children directors for that purpose who are given fancy titles but in reality are utterly useless and a perpetual embarrassment.

Im sure some posters on here can relate to that - one way or another.

 

[alexccfc99]

Scum fanbase, scum club - Hope they are given complete hell when they visit the CBS next season

 

[Hobo]

Good news.

 

[Evo1883]

21 year old male does something incredibly stupid and gets a 5 year stadium ban and some community work which is good news , I don't think it's a crime that should be punished for life and I think he's being punished appropriately.

Not sure why people feel the urge to go further on the matter , bit weird tbh .

 

[Covcraig@bury]

He should have been given a season ticket and forced to watch that shit every week!

He should’ve been made to wear his Sheff Wednesday top and watch every Sheff utd game from their end week in week out , now that’s punishment for the racist tramp

 

[SBT]

21 year old male does something incredibly stupid and gets a 5 year stadium ban and some community work which is good news , I don't think it's a crime that should be punished for life and I think he's being punished appropriately.

Not sure why people feel the urge to go further on the matter , bit weird tbh .

A lifetime ban from a football stadium isn’t exactly a draconian punishment imo.

Not often that I’m the one arguing for more hardline punishments, but maybe others just don’t think it’s as serious a problem. As it is, this guy will be back in the stands as if nothing ever happened in five years, and that’s assuming he doesn’t just rock up incognito as many people under banning orders are known to do.

 

[clint van damme]

A lifetime ban from a football stadium isn’t exactly a draconian punishment imo.

Not often that I’m the one arguing for more hardline punishments, but maybe others just don’t think it’s as serious a problem. As it is, this guy will be back in the stands as if nothing ever happened in five years, and that’s assuming he doesn’t just rock up incognito as many people under banning orders are known to do.

We don't know he'll rock up as if nothing happened.
He may be a totally different person in 5 years time,
He may be even more of a dick, time will tell.

 

[SBT]

We don't know he'll rock up as if nothing happened.
He may be a totally different person in 5 years time,
He may be even more of a dick, time will tell.

Not always the case that this forum believes in the power of criminals to rehabilitate - apparently in this case, minds are very much open!

 

[clint van damme]

Not always the case that this forum believes in the power of criminals to rehabilitate - apparently in this case, minds are very much open!

Well my opinions are generally very much along the lines that people can rehabilitate.
I just think k the pu ishment is right, and if he tries to attend during his ban or if he plays up on his return then a lifetime ban would be appropriate

 

[wingy]

There are 3 “employees” - 2 are him and his father. He was made a director at 18.

It’s set up so dividends are paid for tax advantages and share capital.

Plenty of parents make children directors for that purpose who are given fancy titles but in reality are utterly useless and a perpetual embarrassment.

Im sure some posters on here can relate to that - one way or another.

Or seventy year olds in the opposite direction?

 

[Grendel]

Not always the case that this forum believes in the power of criminals to rehabilitate - apparently in this case, minds are very much open!

Well you previously said you would have no issue with rehabilitated sex offenders living next to you so perhaps look in the mirror for your own perspective.

 

[Evo1883]

A lifetime ban from a football stadium isn’t exactly a draconian punishment imo.

Not often that I’m the one arguing for more hardline punishments, but maybe others just don’t think it’s as serious a problem. As it is, this guy will be back in the stands as if nothing ever happened in five years, and that’s assuming he doesn’t just rock up incognito as many people under banning orders are known to do.

He will have served a 5 year stadium ban , it's ample punishment

 

[David O'Day]

5 year ban and then a 3 year mandatory season ticket at Sheffield United would of been about right

 

[SBT]

Well you previously said you would have no issue with rehabilitated sex offenders living next to you so perhaps look in the mirror for your own perspective.

I don’t see the contradiction here - I also think Edward Rabjohn has the right to live where he wants, however horrible a bloke he clearly is. Whereas the right to attend a football match at a particular stadium isn’t exactly a huge imposition on his rights, and will make our sport a better place by his absence.

 

[Grendel]

I don’t see the contradiction here - I also think Edward Rabjohn has the right to live where he wants, however horrible a bloke he clearly is. Whereas the right to attend a football match at a particular stadium isn’t exactly a huge imposition on his rights, and will make our sport a better place by his absence.

I assume a child sex offender should be banned for life from being anywhere near children ever again? Including living in the same street as any?

 

[torchomatic]

5 years is a hefty amount of time id say. Imagine he was drunk and is embarrassed. It may well never happen again. Sometimes got to give people a second chance to right wrongs in their life once exposed to themselves or others.

Nah. No matter how drunk I would be at a football match or anywhere for that matter, I wouldn't be racist, because I'm not a racist.

Being drunk is an excuse. Chances are he'll be (or had been) racist when sober. It's in him.

 

[torchomatic]

Looks to own a drainage company in Sheffield according to company house, don’t think that will be good for business!

Ironic considering where he's flushed his business reputation.