The Kase(y) for Palmer (3 Viewers)

[shmmeee]

I get some shit for sticking up for Palmer and saying I can see why he’s in the side on merit. But this stat shows what I mean best. With Wright and Simms up front I want someone behind them threading balls through and Palmer is unequivocally one of the best in the division for that.

If we sign an AM this summer it could be big money, and I’d want them to be able to do this if so. If we go for someone like Rudoni or an O’Hare style dribbler, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Palmer start next season in the team. Opposition depending.

 

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[covboy9]

Palmer plays lots of through balls…..to the opposition

 

[eyesee]

I get some shit for sticking up for Palmer and saying I can see why he’s in the side on merit. But this stat shows what I mean best. With Wright and Simms up front I want someone behind them threading balls through and Palmer is unequivocally one of the best in the division for that.

If we sign an AM this summer it could be big money, and I’d want them to be able to do this if so. If we go for someone like Rudoni or an O’Hare style dribbler, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Palmer start next season in the team. Opposition depending.

i'm still on the fence with him, tbh. no 2 ways about it, he's got talent. but too often he doesn't seem to find the right ball, or even shoot when it's clearly the right thing to do.
i'd be upset if he left, but need him to deliver more often what i'm pretty sure he has in his locker.

 

[Ashdown]

I’m afraid he's a bit unpredictable in play and in temperament. Can do some inventive and incisive stuff but I find he often gives the ball away and then leaves gaps behind him.

 

[covboy9]

He’s not good enough to be part of a promotion winning team

one of those players that fights for his place then goes backwards when he gets into the team

 

[ccfcchris]

He's too inconsistent. We need better.

 

[stupot07]

I’m afraid he's a bit unpredictable in play and in temperament. Can do some inventive and incisive stuff but I find he often gives the ball away and then leaves gaps behind him.

That's the problem, his only real redeeming quality is that he completes 0.75 of a through ball per game. It's not enough to compensate for the rest of his game.

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[SleepyGinger]

I think Palmer is under instructions to try the risky defence splitting passes, they won’t always come off but when they do they usually lead to goal scoring chances.

 

[Frankly_Mr_Shankly]

He’s not a top 6 championship player.

 

[Evo1883]

I get some shit for sticking up for Palmer and saying I can see why he’s in the side on merit. But this stat shows what I mean best. With Wright and Simms up front I want someone behind them threading balls through and Palmer is unequivocally one of the best in the division for that.

If we sign an AM this summer it could be big money, and I’d want them to be able to do this if so. If we go for someone like Rudoni or an O’Hare style dribbler, I wouldn’t be surprised to see Palmer start next season in the team. Opposition depending.

I have issues with his work off he ball , which is critical in modern day football , kasey is very much a luxury player

 

[eyesee]

I have issues with his work off he ball , which is critical in modern day football , kasey is very much a luxury player

i'd probably have to agree with that.

 

[skybluecam]

Bit skeptical of this stat - what's a through ball? 0.7 through balls completed per 90 doesn't exactly sound impressive does it.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

He’s rubbish

So are your usernames

How are you this evening Boosh?

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[rob9872]

I'm a big KP fan, but next season he needs more goals. We can't keep relying on the front 2 and other than them only Cal and Sakamoto really contributed numbers of note, we need more from everywhere.

 

[Wyken Sky Blue]

Well I am running out. Good mate, how are you?

What's the inspiration this time?

Glad you're keeping well! I'm alright thanks, enjoying a celibate life of course

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[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Hopefully someone sees this stat and puts in an offer for him.

 

[Super Graham Withey]

Simply gives up possession too often. Get rid.

 

[Skybluefaz]

He’s not good enough to be part of a promotion winning team

one of those players that fights for his place then goes backwards when he gets into the team

Was part of Huddersfield's promotion winning team.

 

[SBAndy]

Like bits, dislike bits. Tries to force the play a lot, has to do a bastard step over every time he gets the ball, doesn’t track back. But he does press when the ball is in front of him and can pick a good pass at times.

It’s a shame, but for me the negatives outweigh the positives. We do want someone as competent on the ball but more consistent and better work ethic. Maybe Mads Frokjaer?

 

[PVA]

I have issues with his work off he ball , which is critical in modern day football , kasey is very much a luxury player

Compared to AMs and wingers last season:

91st percentile for tackles won
94th percentile for passes blocked

 

[PVA]

Sure but that's the ones he went in for , doesn't really explain how often he tackled how much space he closed down etc

81st for tackles attempted

But yes don't have the stats for closing down, but generally his defensive stats are pretty good

 

[Evo1883]

81st for tackles attempted

But yes don't have the stats for closing down, but generally his defensive stats are pretty good

I deleted the last post because it's not really what I'm getting at .. it feels like he fails to get back into shape often leaving gaps for teams to exploit , his workrate on the whole feels at times lacklustre and can leave us vulnerable

Takes the extra touch often getting tackled then leaving us on the defensive

I think really discipline off the ball is not where it needs to be

 

[SwanLane]

I’ve seen him put some nice balls in for people but even then, he’s more likely to admire his pass than to carry on moving to support the attack.

 

[fatso]

I think overall he's a good player, yes he can give the ball away too often, but his ability to create chances can't be ignored.
He has good control in tight situations, and is a bit of a maverick.
Unfortunately his form can be inconsistent and he should get on the score sheet more often.
But still a valuable squad player.

 

[PVA]

Of course he's going to give the ball away a lot, that comes with the territory of the way he plays. He isn't looking for the simple pass (yes sometimes he should), he's looking for the killer pass to open up a defence.

Look at Kevin de Bruyne, he has one of the lowest pass completion rates in the Premier League. Do you think Man City fans regularly lambast him for giving the ball away?

And no, before any of the usual suspects say anything, I'm not comparing Kasey Palmer to Kevin de Bruyne.

 

[shmmeee]

Of course he's going to give the ball away a lot, that comes with the territory of the way he plays. He isn't looking for the simple pass (yes sometimes he should), he's looking for the killer pass to open up a defence.

Look at Kevin de Bruyne, he has one of the lowest pass completion rates in the Premier League. Do you think Man City fans regularly lambast him for giving the ball away?

And no, before any of the usual suspects say anything, I'm not comparing Kasey Palmer to Kevin de Bruyne.

Said it before a high pass completion for an AM/ST is usually a bad sign because they’re playing a lot of safe balls and not tying that killer final ball.

 

[SBT]

You can’t justify a player’s place in the team based off one statistical category. Palmer may be great at through balls, but he’s sorely lacking in so many other departments.

 

[skyblu3sk]

Valuable squad player in my opinion! Gets a tough time from a lot of fans on here but is the type of player we need when We are struggling to break through a defence. Tackles back way more than people seem to realise which I find odd.

 

[Londonccfcfan]

My only criticism of him is the infuriating flicks and back heels he tries when we have worked a good move to the edge of the area. A simple pass will do!! He overplays it too. But in terms of talent without doubt the most gifted player once Ohare is gone. I'd definately keep him as a top quality squad impact player.

 

[PUSB-We_are_going_up]

Is a player who on his day is easily Prem level, however he isnt always on it and when he isnt the game seems to pass him by, one of those who has and always will suffer from inconsistency

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

I don’t think we offer him a new contract at the end of next season unless he has a stormer.

 

[shmmeee]

You can’t justify a player’s place in the team based off one statistical category. Palmer may be great at through balls, but he’s sorely lacking in so many other departments.

Watch me

 

[Cally Fedora]

Stats. You can do anything with them. I go by what I see on the pitch. Palmer makes a lot of bad decisions in the final third. Also, for a player given the freedom he has he doesn’t score enough. Summary - he’s an expensive squad player.

 

[shmmeee]

Stats. You can do anything with them. I go by what I see on the pitch. Palmer makes a lot of bad decisions in the final third. Also, for a player given the freedom he has he doesn’t score enough. Summary - he’s an expensive squad player.

And expensive squad player who you don’t know his wage and he starts most games. Got ya.

 

[Yorkshire SB]

He plays a bit like he’s a young player. Seemingly poor decision making and inconsistent.

At his best (e.g. Huddersfield away last season) there’s not a lot the opposition can do to stop him. Then the next week he’s genuinely a liability to have in the team.

My take is that he is a bit of a flat track bully. He’s got to improve his game against better sides and start doing it week in week out.