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[clint van damme]

I still wouldn’t be surprised to see him end up as Tory leader.

He'd get absolutely rinsed.
He doesn't really come under that much scrutiny at the minute and he's great at sniping from the sides but he's got no really policies or anything of substance that would stand up to serious examination.
He's basically the political equivalent of this forum, (same applies to the greens).

 

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[Deleted member 9744]

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[Sick Boy]

He'd get absolutely rinsed.
He doesn't really come under that much scrutiny at the minute and he's great at sniping from the sides but he's got no really policies or anything of substance that would stand up to serious examination.
He's basically the political equivalent of this forum, (same applies to the greens).

With the way things are going I don’t think people would be that bothered and they’d be the narrative of the mainstream media and the elite nonsense, just like in the USA. He managed to get his way on Brexit as well.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

With the way things are going I don’t think people would be that bothered and they’d be the narrative of the mainstream media and the elite nonsense, just like in the USA. He managed to get his way on Brexit as well.

If 'Get Brexit Done' and hiding in a fridge can win an election, then all bets are off!

 

[clint van damme]

With the way things are going I don’t think people would be that bothered and they’d be the narrative of the mainstream media and the elite nonsense, just like in the USA. He managed to get his way on Brexit as well.

He helped 'get brexit done!' but nothing he's said would happen thereafter has actually happened.
I think people would see through him, though I thought that about Johnson, (and they sort of did in the end).

 

[Sick Boy]

He helped 'get brexit done!' but nothing he's said would happen thereafter has actually happened.
I think people would see through him, though I thought that about Johnson, (and they sort of did in the end).

The more people become disillusioned, the more chance there is of someone like him becoming PM. I genuinely think it’s a possibility if the Tories decide to lurch even further to the right.

 

[Deleted member 9744]

He helped 'get brexit done!' but nothing he's said would happen thereafter has actually happened.
I think people would see through him, though I thought that about Johnson, (and they sort of did in the end).

He's much more able and intelligent than Johnson. He also believes what he says and unfortunately a lot of people share his views. I agree with Sick Boy that he is likely to become Tory leader, maybe after a short period of someone else like Mordaunt or Badenoch.

 

[Grendel]

Are you a fan?

No but perhaps people should look as to why 1 in 4 are rather than sneer and ignore them.

 

[clint van damme]

He's much more able and intelligent than Johnson. He also believes what he says and unfortunately a lot of people share his views. I agree with Sick Boy that he is likely to become Tory leader, maybe after a short period of someone else like Mordaunt or Badenoch.

Well the tory party is at a crossroads now, does it go further to the right or does it go more one nation tory?
I think it will be the former and I think it will eventually send it further into the wilderness.

 

[PVA]

Farage is a disgusting racist piece of shit, he would kill the Tory party off.

 

[Grendel]

Farage is a disgusting racist piece of shit, he would kill the Tory party off.

That’s what he wants to do. Ironically he will appeal to more working class Labour voters in the north than the traditional southern one nation Tory voters - if he succeeds he will obviously target Labour areas of the north

 

[Deleted member 9744]

No but perhaps people should look as to why 1 in 4 are rather than sneer and ignore them.

He's hardly ignored.

I think we know why he appeals to a certain element and I will sneer at that because it's disgraceful.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

Missed all the debates. Anything worth watching? The whole campaign feels a bit redundant TBH. Let’s just have the election.

Apparently Nigel Farage won, Rayner second and Mordaunt finishing 5th.

Watched the England game instead of the debates so regretting that now.

 

[Sick Boy]

Farage is a disgusting racist piece of shit, he would kill the Tory party off.

Him still being and 8 years after Brexit and even more mainstream now suggests otherwise.

 

[Grendel]

One figure no one is mentioning is George Galloway - now there is a blatant racist but also hugely charismatic and a tactical politician.

Rochdale it’s suggested is a battle between his party and reform - there is little hope for Labour or the Tories there.

Rayner may lose her seat - his party will be a menace in these elections

 

[clint van damme]

Him still being and 8 years after Brexit and even more mainstream now suggests otherwise.

To be fair he's just declared himself leader of a party he wins.
It's like me declaring myself President of my house!

 

[PVA]

Him still being and 8 years after Brexit and even more mainstream now suggests otherwise.

He's tried to be an MP and lost 7 times.

Of course he'd get all the racist votes but he would be way too divisive for a mainstream party.

 

[Grendel]

Him still being and 8 years after Brexit and even more mainstream now suggests otherwise.

A disgusting piece of shit that will appeal to voters who otherwise would vote for the Labour Party. What irony.

 

[SIR ERNIE]

He's much more able and intelligent than Johnson. He also believes what he says and unfortunately a lot of people share his views. I agree with Sick Boy that he is likely to become Tory leader, maybe after a short period of someone else like Mordaunt or Badenoch.

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[Mucca Mad Boys]

He's hardly ignored.

I think we know why he appeals to a certain element and I will sneer at that because it's disgraceful.

Immigration is single top priority for voters so it shouldn’t be a surprise that a party that says they’re willing to address that is surging in the polls.

The political class has had over 20 years to address the concerns people have had. There’s been complacency that we won’t experience what the like of; the Netherlands, Germany, France and Italy (and others) are going through with their own political realignments.

It was also cowardly that last nights debate only contained deputies with the exception of Farage.

 

[Sick Boy]

To be fair he's just declared himself leader of a party he wins.
It's like me declaring myself President of my house!

Unfortunately he’s not stupid and it’s part of a longer term plan, IMO. For a long time they’ve been trying to replicate what’s going on in the USA in the UK. You already get it with people going on about the mainstream media telling lies to the public to protect ‘them’.

 

[clint van damme]

One figure no one is mentioning is George Galloway - now there is a blatant racist but also hugely charismatic and a tactical politician.

Rochdale it’s suggested is a battle between his party and reform - there is little hope for Labour or the Tories there.

Rayner may lose her seat - his party will be a menace in these elections

Not sure I agree Galloway is racist, he's a slimy opportunist who is happy to whip up the worse elements of his support if it suits. A horrible piece of work.
Great orator though to give him his due.

 

[Grendel]

He's tried to be an MP and lost 7 times.

Of course he'd get all the racist votes but he would be way too divisive for a mainstream party.

Like Enoch Powell?

 

[Deleted member 9744]

One figure no one is mentioning is George Galloway - now there is a blatant racist but also hugely charismatic and a tactical politician.

Rochdale it’s suggested is a battle between his party and reform - there is little hope for Labour or the Tories there.

Rayner may lose her seat - his party will be a menace in these elections

Why would we want to give Galloway more publicity? Like Farage a toxic influence.

 

[Grendel]

Not sure I agree Galloway is racist, he's a slimy opportunist who is happy to whip up the worse elements of his support if it suits. A horrible piece of work.
Great orator though to give him his due.

He is the most anti semetic politician there is.

 

[clint van damme]

Immigration is single top priority for voters so it shouldn’t be a surprise that a party that says they’re willing to address that is surging in the polls.

The most recent YouGov poll has it 4th.

General election 2024: what are the most important issues for voters? | YouGov

While 2019 may have been the Brexit election, few see it as a top issue this time round

yougov.co.uk

 

[Sick Boy]

He's tried to be an MP and lost 7 times.

Of course he'd get all the racist votes but he would be way too divisive for a mainstream party.

He’s been on the most influential politicians on UK politics over the last 10 years. To get complacent and write him off is just repeating what led to Brexit.

 

[clint van damme]

He is the most anti semetic politician there is.

Again, I'm not sure I agree. Anti Israeli, yes. Though if you linked some evidence I wouldn't be overly shocked.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Immigration is single top priority for voters so it shouldn’t be a surprise that a party that says they’re willing to address that is surging in the polls.

The political class has had over 20 years to address the concerns people have had. There’s been complacency that we won’t experience what the like of; the Netherlands, Germany, France and Italy (and others) are going through with their own political realignments.

It was also cowardly that last nights debate only contained deputies with the exception of Farage.

They have no intention of addressing it

 

[PVA]

Like Enoch Powell?

Well, yes. After all he was sacked immediately after his overt racism - too extreme for a mainstream party as Farage would be.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

They have no intention of addressing it

They don’t have to deal with the consequences of their policies because they won’t be in government. It’s why the minor parties can articulate their policies on these big debates well because no one is interested in scrutinising their program.

 

[Grendel]

Well, yes. After all he was sacked immediately after his overt racism - too extreme for a mainstream party as Farage would be.

He wasn’t sacked as an MP and in 1972 was considered the most popular politician in the uk and Michael Hesiktine admitted if he’d took Heath on he’d have easily been prime minister.

He then told his his Wolverhampton constituents he was standing down and to vote Labour

 

[Grendel]

What the fuck has Penny Mordaunt done to her hair and she's spouting the the £2k bollocks.

Both main parties are telling blatant lies already and they don’t care

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Both main parties are telling blatant lies already and they don’t care

Labour lies please

 

[Grendel]

Labour lies please

A £40 billion black hole in their spending plans is a pretty big whopper