shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Yes. Train delays hurt productivity. Our Ancient transport infrastructure is a huge part of the issues we have as a country being so much poorer than comparable nations
Do you want to discuss boring politics? (243 Viewers)
- Thread starter mrtrench
- Start date
Yes. Train delays hurt productivity. Our Ancient transport infrastructure is a huge part of the issues we have as a country being so much poorer than comparable nations
So by definition we become a backwood state here in Coventry?
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
Train delays? What has that got to do with HS2? Ensuring drivers are in the right place at the right time, modernising working practices across the rail network by discontinuing ancient Spanish practices and train drivers who earn more than junior doctors not striking would help quite a lot.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
Well-Known Member
It's also helpful when you have a fairer, more equal society, as everyone feels like they're contributing equally.
Here with massive inequality the rich think they're shouldering too much of the tax burden and why should they pay for stuff they don't use while the poor are just lazy scroungers, while the poor think the rich should be contributing a lot more. So you get huge roadblocks and, due to money buying influence, those that can pay are largely exempted from doing so.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
We should really be part of Birmingham economically. As in it should be easy and quick to commute via train or tram to Birmingham. Getting to London is only important because that’s where all the economic activity is.
Not popular in Coventry but probably true. I only work in London cos there’s fuck all decent jobs in Brum.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
Delays happen for a multitude of reasons capacity being one of them.
Put it this way: Is there anything you would build?
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
When I was working from home I was shocked at how many people were about in the day and clearly didn't work. Did a quick google and it looks like around 1 in 4 people of working age don't work, for a variety of reasons.
Unemployment: Who are the millions of Britons not working?
The unemployment rate is relatively low historically, but millions aren't working.
www.bbc.co.uk
NGL it can be hard not to turn into a stereotypical Daily Mail type 'they've got a flatscreen TV' when you see the house a few doors down, a couple similarly aged to me neither of whom work, having new windows, kitchen etc while I'm working 50 - 60 hours a week, and so stressed with work it recently put me in hospital, with a kitchen that's literally falling apart wondering how I'm ever going to afford to replace it.
Grendel
Well-Known Member
When I was working from home I was shocked at how many people were about in the day and clearly didn't work. Did a quick google and it looks like around 1 in 4 people of working age don't work, for a variety of reasons.
Unemployment: Who are the millions of Britons not working?
The unemployment rate is relatively low historically, but millions aren't working.www.bbc.co.uk
NGL it can be hard not to turn into a stereotypical Daily Mail type 'they've got a flatscreen TV' when you see the house a few doors down, a couple similarly aged to me neither of whom work, having new windows, kitchen etc while I'm working 50 - 60 hours a week, and so stressed with work it recently put me in hospital, with a kitchen that's literally falling apart wondering how I'm ever going to afford to replace it.
Benefits scroungers in town boast they 'chill out and enjoy life'
EXCLUSIVE: The unemployed in Jaywick, Essex are claiming 'thousands of pounds' a month of taxpayer's cash - while locals complain there are jobs, people just don't want them.
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
The new A30 expansion is nearly finished in Cornwall meaning more traffic and pollution down there.
If only we just put a high speed rail link from Paddington to Penzance so that journey didn't take over 5 hours.
If only we just put a high speed rail link from Paddington to Penzance so that journey didn't take over 5 hours.
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Climbing the Summit: Big cities in the UK and the G7 - Centre for Cities
Associate Director Anthony Breach and Director of Policy and Research Paul Swinney explore the role played by the largest cities outside London in the UK’s yawning prosperity gap with other G7 economies.www.centreforcities.org
If only someone had some policy around making the rest of the country as productive as London. We could give it a cute videogame based name, Up a Level or something
I think public spending per head e.g. on transport of 8 times other regions is probably one reason.
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
I have said what I would invest in which would require some building,
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I just think it all needs doing. We’re so far behind most similar nations on every transport metric: HS lines, electrification, trams, undergrounds, etc.
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
lol
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
UK public austerity disinvestment translates to the same in private sector imo. The government must at some point recognise that the private sector cannot and will not always lead. Infrastructure in particular.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
It’s treasury brain, because London is so much more productive the sums always show a bigger benefit to building in London so that’s what they approve.
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
You could always support your own policy and increase London population density by moving there.
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
I like my kids I’m afraid.
But also why should everyone have to move to London for a decent job and the rest of the country just rot?
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
In my opinion the treasury should serve the government not the other way around
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
I just can't
Wonder what the comparable construction period would have been to just build it without a tunnel? Significant less.
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
So invest in moving jobs out of London, not in making it quicker (LOL) to get there.
It gets back to the old principality argument I was making a few years back!
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
…
Yes. That’s what I said. Improve local links, which is done by moving national links off the local network. You were the one complaining it won’t be quicker to get from Coventry to London, I was explaining why that wasn’t the intention.
Depends what the tunnels achieve really don't it over era's?
shmmeee
Well-Known Member
They mean posh people can walk their dogs in peace.
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
The primary benefit of HS2 is capacity not speed.
SBAndy
Well-Known Member
Kind of plays into the point around messaging being incorrect from the get-go.
David O'Day
Well-Known Member
Hospital waiting lists rise to 7.57m
Jump in England comes after ministers claimed the NHS backlog had started to come down.
www.bbc.co.uk
With this and growth flatlining it's almost as if the universe wants Sunak to fuck off.
Well he'd fail a breathyliser anyway wouldn't he?
Liquid Gold
Well-Known Member
We should be building a dozen HS trains.
London to Inverness
South West
Liverpool to Hull
Glasgow to Aberdeen
Newcastle to Bristol
High speed rail should be the cheap, easy and quick option to travel.
London to Inverness
South West
Liverpool to Hull
Glasgow to Aberdeen
Newcastle to Bristol
High speed rail should be the cheap, easy and quick option to travel.
Sky Blue Pete
Well-Known Member
Only if it was more than £12500 in total
fernandopartridge
Well-Known Member
Didn't the Tories already try this? I remember it happening in Greater Manchester, there was a mayor led 'spatial framework' where each of the GM authorities had to assign spaces for housing developments. It's taken years to get it approved:
Home
Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA) - working together to improve the lives of people in Greater Manchester - Bolton, Bury, Manchester, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford, Wigan
www.greatermanchester-ca.gov.uk