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shmmeee

shmmeee

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fernandopartridge said:
Didn't the Tories already try this? I remember it happening in Greater Manchester, there was a mayor led 'spatial framework' where each of the GM authorities had to assign spaces for housing developments. It's taken years to get it approved:

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Greater Manchester Combined Authority (GMCA) - working together to improve the lives of people in Greater Manchester - Bolton, Bury, Manchester, Oldham, Rochdale, Salford, Stockport, Tameside, Trafford, Wigan
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It needs proper planning reform and not central control really, but I’ll take anything at the moment. Devil will be in the detail of the bill which is apparently ready to go day one.

If he spends his political capital on council tax rebanding and effective planning reform I’ll take it.
 
David O'Day

David O'Day

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Genuine living wage with no age bands
Ban zero hours contracts
End fire and rehire
Basic job rights from day one
Strengthen trade union rights
Orgreave enquiry

Hello Comrade Starmer
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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Grendel said:
www.dailymail.co.uk

Benefits scroungers in town boast they 'chill out and enjoy life'

EXCLUSIVE: The unemployed in Jaywick, Essex are claiming 'thousands of pounds' a month of taxpayer's cash - while locals complain there are jobs, people just don't want them.
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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Would love to know how. When I've come under threat of losing my job or when the doctor suggested I would benefit greatly from time off work I've looked to see what I would get and I'd last a month at best before I couldn't afford to pay my mortgage.
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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chiefdave said:
Would love to know how. When I've come under threat of losing my job or when the doctor suggested I would benefit greatly from time off work I've looked to see what I would get and I'd last a month at best before I couldn't afford to pay my mortgage.
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Cant see what you’re replying to, but assuming it’s a life on benefits. The answer is crime. They do crime.
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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shmmeee said:
Im such a nerd, this is genuinely one of my favourite things I’ve read so far. I remember speaking to the head data guy at CCC when I was doing my masters and his frustration at how hard it is to join up services because this doesn’t exist.
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Wonder how it will work in practice. You have a single unique identifier in the NHS, your NHS number, yet there is no continuity of service and its common for things to get lost in transmission between different departments and services.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Not the worst but still lacks creativity of major and fairer tax reforms like the Greens. And they’re needed to implement real change. I’ll still lend them my vote, I just wish greens had a better chance of winning my seat, or alternatively labour had no chance at all so I didn’t have to choose to vote tactically. The Tories have earned a good kick in so I’ll be voting tactically to make sure they get it.
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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chiefdave said:
Wonder how it will work in practice. You have a single unique identifier in the NHS, your NHS number, yet there is no continuity of service and its common for things to get lost in transmission between different departments and services.
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There’s a different reason in the NHS around medical records that FP can probably explain better than me. Without a UID you literally can’t tell that the person for example reported to social services is also on benefits or whatever. At least in the NHS once they do have access to your records they know it’s the same person.
 
skybluetony176

skybluetony176

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Just read that the overnight data on NHS waiting lists has gone up again after Sunak was bragging last night they were coming down. Can’t believe he wasn’t aware of the latest statistics last night before he claimed that they were coming down. Also don’t buy for a minute that he hasn’t seen Ed Conways appraisal of his tax “cuts” that will push the tax burden to an 80 year high by the end of the next parliament should he win the GE.
 
MalcSB

MalcSB

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chiefdave said:
Wonder how it will work in practice. You have a single unique identifier in the NHS, your NHS number, yet there is no continuity of service and its common for things to get lost in transmission between different departments and services.
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There’s the NI number as well.
 
MalcSB

MalcSB

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shmmeee said:
There’s a different reason in the NHS around medical records that FP can probably explain better than me. Without a UID you literally can’t tell that the person for example reported to social services is also on benefits or whatever. At least in the NHS once they do have access to your records they know it’s the same person.
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Part of the problem is that digitisation of NHS records has not gone well: paper records still abound. Fortunately mine are relatively slim for my age: some are enormous.
 
chiefdave

chiefdave

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MalcSB said:
Part of the problem is that digitisation of NHS records has not gone well: paper records still abound. Fortunately mine are relatively slim for my age: some are enormous.
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The system is frankly a shambles. I've had 3 visits to A&E in recent weeks, all for the same thing.

After the first visit I was assured that my GP would have the details and I should book a follow up appointment with them. To this day they haven't appeared.

On my second visit to A&E they seemed to have zero knowledge or record of the previous visit. Then on my 3rd visit some systems kicked in that apply to people who have visited twice with the same issue, despite it being my third visit with the same issue.

At my surgery I can rarely see the same GP twice. When I am asked to go for follow up appointments they seemingly have no clue why they have asked me to go back. On one rare occasion I had a follow up appointment with the same GP as the initial appointment he literally went through the same appointment and tried to prescribe me the same drugs I was already on following the original appointment. Had to explain to him that this was the follow up appointment that he had requested.
 
MalcSB

MalcSB

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chiefdave said:
The system is frankly a shambles. I've had 3 visits to A&E in recent weeks, all for the same thing.

After the first visit I was assured that my GP would have the details and I should book a follow up appointment with them. To this day they haven't appeared.

On my second visit to A&E they seemed to have zero knowledge or record of the previous visit. Then on my 3rd visit some systems kicked in that apply to people who have visited twice with the same issue, despite it being my third visit with the same issue.

At my surgery I can rarely see the same GP twice. When I am asked to go for follow up appointments they seemingly have no clue why they have asked me to go back. On one rare occasion I had a follow up appointment with the same GP as the initial appointment he literally went through the same appointment and tried to prescribe me the same drugs I was already on following the original appointment. Had to explain to him that this was the follow up appointment that he had requested.
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It’s shit, isn’t it. Still, Kier will sort it all out.
 
Sick Boy

Sick Boy

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shmmeee said:
Cant see what you’re replying to, but assuming it’s a life on benefits. The answer is crime. They do crime.
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From your previous posts, I think we probably have childhood friends with similar issues and unfortunately, that's the reality of the situation.
 
Nuskyblue

Nuskyblue

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Liquid Gold said:
lol

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Just to add something on this.

The linesmen putting up the OLE on the Californian project mentioned are earning something like 10 grand a week (probably more, I think the rate of pay is >$100 per hour) I know someone that worked out there fitting a monitoring system on one of the lines, he said there were actually people that had to stop working because they had "earned to much money" (something to do with tax). Linesmen here earn something like £35 to £40k a year...
 
shmmeee

shmmeee

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Nuskyblue said:
Just to add something on this.

The linesmen putting up the OLE on the Californian project mentioned are earning something like 10 grand a week (probably more, I think the rate of pay is >$100 per hour) I know someone that worked out there fitting a monitoring system on one of the lines, he said there were actually people that had to stop working because they had "earned to much money" (something to do with tax). Linesmen here earn something like £35 to £40k a year...
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Is it unionised out of interest?
 
Nuskyblue

Nuskyblue

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shmmeee said:
Is it unionised out of interest?
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Pass. All I know is that they're all pickup driving rednecks.

From the way it was described to me it sounded like the project needed the labour so paid accordingly.

I should also say that the $100 an hour figure is probably the rate for working over night.

The trains there are still all running on dirty diesel I think. Waiting for the big switch on.
 
C

CCFCSteve

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Nuskyblue said:
Pass. All I know is that they're all pickup driving rednecks.

From the way it was described to me it sounded like the project needed the labour so paid accordingly.

I should also say that the $100 an hour figure is probably the rate for working over night.

The trains there are still all running on dirty diesel I think. Waiting for the big switch on.
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Been an absolute shitshow from start to finish, appalling cost control, initially driven by wanting it to be so fast which was totally unnecessary, to starting south to north as has been mentioned by many previously, to letting nimby and environmentalists add 100s millions/billions onto the bill.

That being said, it needs doing. If we want the country to grow in a way that will ultimately benefit everyone as well as be competitive and attractive globally, we need to become a lot better at delivering, especially on infrastructure. We’ve become a country of finding problems/negatives with everything rather than looking for the positives/solutions. It’s so frustrating as I still have faith in this country and the population by and large, it just feels like everything is stifled and clogged up
 
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