MalcSB
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If you have to go private for health or dentistry, you should be allowed to claim the NHS tariff to offset the private cost. NHS services are supposed to be there and an entitlement.
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Grendel
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Happens in a lot of countries. It’s just this everything is free at the point of delivery here where it does t happen.
MalcSB
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If you have to go private for health or dentistry, you should be allowed to claim the NHS tariff to offset the private cost. NHS services are supposed to be there and an entitlement.
skybluetony176
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Sunak, Badenoch and Braverman all polling to lose their seats on that basis I just read.
MalcSB
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maybe the tax break recognises that they are basically paying For education twice?
skybluetony176
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Doubtful.
duffer
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Crazy idea, I know, but maybe if the sixth(?) wealthiest country in the world distributed its wealth slightly more equitably, there wouldn't be quite the same need for private health and dentistry.
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
But it hasn’t we are where we are and the NHS isn’t providing the necessary capacity and won’t until the new Labour government gets NHS staff working loads of overtime. If that will be legal.
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the state of access to dentists is exactly why any so-called 'imrpovements' in the wider NHS should be scrutinised to an inch of their lives. Imagine not being able to get an NHS doctor within 10 miles of your house...
Grendel
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There is in pretty much every country in the western world? Why do the uk think it’s a special case where people with wealth can’t have better services? Where else is this a thing?
duffer
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Nope, it's because of this...
"Private schools do not have to charge value added tax (VAT) on their fees because of a legal exemption for organisations providing education.
About half of England's private schools are also charities, so receive an 80% reduction on business rates (taxes on properties used for commercial purposes)."
Private schools: When will VAT be added to fees?
Labour says removing the current tax exemption will help to fund 6,500 new teachers in England.
www.bbc.co.uk
Grendel
Well-Known Member
Blair and the Labour Party destroyed NHS dentistry
duffer
Well-Known Member
"We are where we are" isn't really a compelling argument against change, is it?
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
That doesn’t explain why education organisations are exempt.Nope, it's because of this...
"Private schools do not have to charge value added tax (VAT) on their fees because of a legal exemption for organisations providing education.
About half of England's private schools are also charities, so receive an 80% reduction on business rates (taxes on properties used for commercial purposes)."
Private schools: When will VAT be added to fees?
Labour says removing the current tax exemption will help to fund 6,500 new teachers in England.www.bbc.co.uk
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Well it was before that. I actually couldn't get myself registered with an NHS dentist once mine closed down, and that was under Major's government. 1992, gvernment cut fees to NHS dentists by 7%, that's where the root (no pun intended) cause is.
Nuskyblue
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Grendel
Well-Known Member
Their new contract was a disaster
NHS dentists treat 500,000 fewer patients after Labour's controversial
Half a million fewer patients are seeing National Health Service dentists since Labour introduced a controversial new contract.
www.standard.co.uk
duffer
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No it doesn't. Could the historical reason be related to the fact that most Tories (most MPs, possibly) and their benefactors, benefitted financially from this unusual state of affairs?
Ah, just call me cynical, I'm sure these inconsistent tax breaks were all down to their innate charity and desire to improve the world we live in.
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You couldn't be more wrong.
Grendel
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Well I couldn’t because I suspect if your child was in a sink estate school or your wife wanted a hip replacement you’d think more of their needs than your precious principles
MalcSB
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We have had Labour governments before, and politicians attendance at private schools is not limited to the Tories,didn’t Tony Blair attend Fettes?
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
Starmer wouldn’t.
Grendel
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And Dianne Abbott of course took the private option
clint van damme
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Theyre just always involved in or surrounded by wrong doing!
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Philosoraptor
Well-Known Member
Was charging for prescriptions Labour or the Conservatives. I forget which one of the right wing parties it was.
skybluetony176
Well-Known Member
Tory. 1952.
chiefdave
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Think more and more people will be pushed to private as there's no other option. Following my recent stay in hospital there's two things they want to investigate as potential causes, I've been told both should happen relatively urgently.
My appointment for one is June next year. For the other they sent me a choice of five places I could go, none of which have an appointment available in the next two years.
So next week I have an appointment with my GP to discuss getting this done privately despite the fact I can't afford it and will be getting into debt.
chiefdave
Well-Known Member
you've gone too far now!
MalcSB
Well-Known Member
This is exactly the situation wherein patients should be able to claim NHS tariff to offset the cost of private treatment. I had to have cataract surgery done privately because the wait was so long I would have permanently lost sight in the affected eye.
I’m not sure where the concept of patient choice stands these days - I hope you manage to get your situation resolved satisfactorily.
dutchman
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Badenoch would survive, Mordaunt would be out:
Kemi Badenoch is the future of the Tory party – no one else survives
The Telegraph’s exclusive poll raises the prospect of the Business Secretary leading the Right’s battle for control of the Tories
www.telegraph.co.uk
Nick
Administrator
Sorry to hear that. That's my point with this stuff is that you shouldn't be in that position but you have to get things done.
Get well soon!
clint van damme
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Badenoch would survive, Mordaunt would be out:
Kemi Badenoch is the future of the Tory party – no one else survives
The Telegraph’s exclusive poll raises the prospect of the Business Secretary leading the Right’s battle for control of the Tories
Mordaunt being touted as the next PM because of the way she carried a sword summed up what a ludicrous shit hole this country has become.
Brighton Sky Blue
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A new charlatan for a new era.
Sick Boy
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The prospect of him as Tory leader at the next election is a frightening prospect. They’ve already managed to get the ‘MSM’ narrative going in the UK like in the USA and he’s already like Trump to an extent where his base don’t care what he does or says.