Brighton Sky Blue
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Even at the lower end of this estimate, and as someone who is no fan of Biden, he created as many jobs as Trump lost. Purely on the economy he has done far better than his predecessor.
Trump is my favourite comedian of the year already (24 Viewers)
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Sky Blue Pete
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Age discrimination though
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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But they have a lower age limit of 35. So if that age discrimination is ok why not old age? An 80 year old is far more likely to be incapable due to age than a 25 or 30 year old.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Well, according to the constitution he can't as you're only allowed two terms. But I fully expect him to try and overturn that if he wins along with numerous other checks on presidential power. What's more scary is that I think it may just happen as he cleanses the govt of any dissenters.
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Yeah, but how are they going to feel about a person who was second choice to an increasingly senile old man? And Harris is far from popular, and that's without even mentioning those that may have issues with colour or sex. You'd think she might get more black and women votes, but I'm really not convinced (assuming she's the candidate).
I know there's a long way to go, but we all know that Trump can, and has, done pretty much whatever he likes and there are frightening number of people than will support him. They'll play big on the assassination attempt and it will get traction.
I can still only see a Trump win.
David O'Day
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why would that matter? if he loses as the post says he has only served 1 term
David O'Day
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Harris's poll numbers are better than you'd think
Sky_Blue_Dreamer
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Indeed it does. My bad.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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You and the left are so on the ropes it would almost be funny if it wasn't such a serious subject.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Pathetic cuckold.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Sorry, logic and reason don't apply on the off topic chat. You must be racist.
@Deleted member 5849 will be along in a minute to tell you that you are a bigot and racist. Pathetic cuck.
Como
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As I have mentioned even the Dems do not like KK, she has a troubling history there is a reason they put a gag on her.
I do not think that even with its problems the US is going to vote for a DEI candidate.
Very interesting that the Dems do not have a democratic process for nominating their candidate.
I do not think that even with its problems the US is going to vote for a DEI candidate.
Very interesting that the Dems do not have a democratic process for nominating their candidate.
David O'Day
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Sky Blue Pete
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That’s interesting
Diogenes
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Don't you think it's a bit odd that such a monumental decision was announced to the world via a post on X without Biden announcing it via a press conference or an address to the nation? At first I just assumed it's because his batteries are low and they needed time to get him ready.
The more I look at this though I think there is skullduggery afoot. That latest signature is just too different from previous ones. I saw a lot of memes yesterday saying that Biden will have a shock when he wakes up and finds out that he has withdrawn from the race but I actually think theres something to this.
The more I look at this though I think there is skullduggery afoot. That latest signature is just too different from previous ones. I saw a lot of memes yesterday saying that Biden will have a shock when he wakes up and finds out that he has withdrawn from the race but I actually think theres something to this.
I suppose he is currently recovering/isolating due to covid
chiefdave
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Hasn't he got covid? Who knows how ill he is with that.
Also his statement said 'I will speak to the nation later this week in more detail about my decision'
The argument will be at what cost ? Shmmeee is right that Biden has implemented an ambitious industrial strategy and there is no doubt that it created jobs and boosted gdp over the last couple of years. My question would be the physical cost and the inflationary impact of it which some argue has been a bit stickier than elsewhere due to cash pumped into the economy (also some of this inflation was then exported around the world)
Is it better than Trumps big tax breaks for the rich, yes, will it prove to be good use of cash and benefit the country longer term, only time will tell.
Both parties seem to want to borrow, print and spend like monies no object (FP - no need to comment !). US bond yields (borrowing cost/interest) are substantially more than even ours and there is no doubt they will have to start printing again to service interest and government expenditure. What this does for currency debasement/inflation in future remains to be seen
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Has the resident chatbot fired up again?
shmmeee
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But in 2020 China didn’t exist BSB! This is on Biden!!!
shmmeee
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Yeah but you’re a one note economist who only sees debt as important.
Flying Fokker
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Oh dear.
It’s only important if you struggle to service it. I’ve said numerous times if debts used wisely on infrastructure etc and things that benefit a country long term, no problem.
shmmeee
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im just playing with you.
The inflationary aspects of the covid cash (that both Trump and Biden spent BTW) is a fair argument, but then you look at employment, wage growth, manufacturing supply chains. America is in by far the best post covid economic position on the planet. There’s not a country around I’d swap the last four years for, including China.
Mucca Mad Boys
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There’s been a Parkinson’s specialist coming to the White House and the press office admitted to seeing Biden.
The Democrats have been knowingly keeping the extent of Joe Biden’s ill health away from the public. Is it a stretch to think he may have been diagnosed with Parkinson’s?
He did say a serious illness would prompt him to withdraw and COVID wouldn’t fall into that category despite his age - he will have the best healthcare money can buy.
Their growth has been amazing and there’s been a real positive impact on productivity as well. I always caveat what I say as none of us can see into the future and things might all be fine with regards debt/debt servicing. Im just a worrier at heart
Brighton Sky Blue
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I can't really understand this line of argument-would it be better if unemployment in a country goes up and GDP goes down?
David O'Day
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ranting on about "cuckholds" these days like a massive smackhead
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The banter around these parts ain't what it used to be. People used to put some work into it rather than just quoting from righty incel types they've met on the dark web.
SBAndy
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David O'Day
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A 3rd rate Lozza Fox.
No, It’s great that GDP has been higher in the short term and that unemployment has remained low. It’s just the potential ‘cost’ of this
My point has always been that if you have to print more to achieve this, it debases the currency and can cause inflation. Ultimately this costs everyone and usually the poorest the most (inflation and/or debasing a currency is probably the least progressive form of ‘taxation’)
As I was saying to shmmeee, you can’t knock US recent economic performance, it’s been head and shoulders the strongest around. However, gdp is now slowing a bit and unemployment is creeping up, so has the last three years been a short term shot in the arm or a more longer term structural improvement. Only time will tell
ps still better than trump who probably would’ve borrowed/printed more to cut taxes for the richest.