Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (30 Viewers)

[Deleted member 5849]

Funnily enough, last time you reported something I dealt with it.

Last time I reported something it hung around until mark dealt with it after a pm.

Now tbf asking you to mod the whole board and have an opinion is a bit thankless. There must be alternative potential mods about that aren't me or Grendel however?

 

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[Nick]

The worrying thing is that Andrew Tate is trying to being views on women more in line with the hardcore Muslim views on women.

Neither should be welcome regardless of the colour of the person saying them.

It would be interesting how many of the lads who follow Andrew Tate also think that immigrants are stealing their jobs and women? I have no idea.

 

[Otis]

I’ve seen men of all ages and backgrounds harass women in public over the years. It’s a male problem rather than a specific ethnicity.

Exactly.

So many predatory men out there. All colours, all races, all backgrounds.

 

[Nick]

Last time I reported something it hung around until mark dealt with it after a pm.

Which was that, out of interest?

You still didn't answer what I asked you about "sealioning".

This is exactly what happens, it's almost like a playbook. As I said, I have been around long enough and both on the side of and against most people on here in various arguments about things. I know how they will operate.

It's boring and gets nowhere. (Yeah, I used to be even more an absolute relentless bore during all of the SISU / Council shite).

 

[shmmeee]

I’ve seen men of all ages and backgrounds harass women in public over the years. It’s a male problem rather than a specific ethnicity.

You say this but almost every guy in that video was non white with broken English. My daughter (14) says the only times she’s not been approached by random older men in town is when she’s with me and every single one of them is foreign with poor English and overly familiar/wont leave her alone.

I think there are obviously white and other British people who harass women, but the experience is that it’s nothing like the same level and intensity. There’s definitely a cultural divide about this stuff.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

You still didn't answer what I asked you about "sealioning".

I can't see the question but I mean what's u out elsewhere. You constantly challenge certain positions but not others. You used to challenge all of them, even if annoying! There's no way pre COVID some of Gimoc and ESB's posts would have been allowed to stand without endless questioning. And yeah you'd still wind me up too but at least it'd be equitable!

 

[Grendel]

Exactly.

So many predatory men out there. All colours, all races, all backgrounds.

Most groups that have groomed young white women are Pakistani Muslims. It’s not racist to point out that basic fact

 

[covcity4life]

You say this but almost every guy in that video was non white with broken English. My daughter (14) says the only times she’s not been approached by random older men in town is when she’s with me and every single one of them is foreign with poor English and overly familiar/wont leave her alone.

I think there are obviously white and other British people who harass women, but the experience is that it’s nothing like the same level and intensity. There’s definitely a cultural divide about this stuff.

It's definitely something worth a discussion. I think some white girls will be targeted and it snot racist to have that convo

On flip side of a white guy tries it on do the girls see it as flattering? And if foreign guy does it it's harassment? I think that's important too

The girls at school tell me lots of older Asian men add them on Snapchat and all of them have a story about Turkish men if they ever went on holiday there so I have no doubt it is something worth being mindful of.

 

[Nick]

You say this but almost every guy in that video was non white with broken English. My daughter (14) says the only times she’s not been approached by random older men in town is when she’s with me and every single one of them is foreign with poor English and overly familiar/wont leave her alone.

I think there are obviously white and other British people who harass women, but the experience is that it’s nothing like the same level and intensity. There’s definitely a cultural divide about this stuff.

That's another think that people don't seem to be able to discuss, the cultural views towards women. It's factual but if it's brought up it's "white men harass women too".

Yes of course they do but over here the culture is thankfully changing away from that and it's miles away of the culture towards women if you go to somewhere like Turkey. I'd never ever take my daughter to one of those countries.

It's not racist to point that out, it's just a fact.

 

[Otis]

Most groups that have groomed young white women are Pakistani Muslims. It’s not racist to point out that basic fact

No, not at all.

 

[Nick]

I can't see the question but I mean what's u out elsewhere. You constantly challenge certain positions but not others. You used to challenge all of them, even if annoying! There's no way pre COVID some of Gimoc and ESB's posts would have been allowed to stand without endless questioning. And yeah you'd still wind me up too but at least it'd be equitable!

I have asked twice now and you are conveniently failing to answer.

This is exactly the shit I'm talking about.

 

[shmmeee]

It's definitely something worth a discussion. I think some white girls will be targeted and it snot racist to have that convo

On flip side of a white guy tries it on do the girls see it as flattering? And if foreign guy does it it's harassment? I think that's important too

The girls at school tell me lots of older Asian men add them on Snapchat and all of them have a story about Turkish men if they ever went on holiday there so I have no doubt it is something worth being mindful of.

No its about not taking a hint and just the numbers. Turkish is definitely a problem, anyone on chat rooms in the early internet can confirm.

It’s a cultural thing. I’ve seen Italian guys in Italy make British women uncomfortable with how they try it on. But also the fact that she’s very obviously under age and these guys are in their 20s and 30s, she just doesn’t get approached by any white guys in the street really. Not in an agressive and persistent way certainly.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I have asked twice now and you are conveniently failing to answer.

This is exactly the shit I'm talking about.

I've literally answered what I mean. And you wanting more is exactly the shit *I'm* talking about.

 

[covcity4life]

No its about not taking a hint and just the numbers. Turkish is definitely a problem, anyone on chat rooms in the early internet can confirm.

It’s a cultural thing. I’ve seen Italian guys in Italy make British women uncomfortable with how they try it on. But also the fact that she’s very obviously under age and these guys are in their 20s and 30s, she just doesn’t get approached by any white guys in the street really. Not in an agressive and persistent way certainly.

Yeah it's not good. And it causes further divide as it makes all Asians look bad and white women will be weary

The underage thing needs to be looked at. Does seem to be a thing that doesn't bother a certain group like it does others.

 

[Nick]

No its about not taking a hint and just the numbers. Turkish is definitely a problem, anyone on chat rooms in the early internet can confirm.

It’s a cultural thing. I’ve seen Italian guys in Italy make British women uncomfortable with how they try it on. But also the fact that she’s very obviously under age and these guys are in their 20s and 30s, she just doesn’t get approached by any white guys in the street really. Not in an agressive and persistent way certainly.

My daughter went on a school trip to greece last year.

She said they constantly got hounded by blokes and they even asked her mate if she wanted to work in a strip club. Her view is that greece is "noncey" now.

 

[Ian1779]

So it's not the school parroting anything about immigrants at all then.
Do you find rural schools or any schools with around 98% white to be generally intolerant and is it such therefore that white parents who live in largely white catchment areas are racists ?

I’m not sure what point you are making here? Why would schools be saying anything about immigration at all?
I think it is far more likely to be social media influence that drives comments or opinions than parental influence.

 

[shmmeee]

Yeah it's not good. And it causes further divide as it makes all Asians look bad and white women will be weary

The underage thing needs to be looked at. Does seem to be a thing that doesn't bother a certain group like it does others.

I’m not even sure if it’s Asians TBH as in Indian and Pakistani, but my geography on sight isn’t enough. Places my daughter has mentioned have been Turkey, Syria, Yemen.

 

[covcity4life]

Tell

I’m not even sure if it’s Asians TBH as in Indian and Pakistani, but my geography on sight isn’t enough. Places my daughter has mentioned have been Turkey, Syria, Yemen.

her to go Ibiza like a normal Brit ffs

 

[Nick]

I’m not even sure if it’s Asians TBH as in Indian and Pakistani, but my geography on sight isn’t enough. Places my daughter has mentioned have been Turkey, Syria, Yemen.

Again, it makes you wonder if it's the integration stuff.

Of course there will be a cultural different in the UK where you have girls showing off their legs in the summer and wearing tops with their belly out compared to what somebody in a strict Muslim country is used to. I am sure they will even admit that because of it they see the girls as easy.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

Tell

her to go Ibiza like a normal Brit ffs

The spanish there are just as bad. I remember I went to Privilege about 5 years ago and it was full of fat spanish blokes with their tops off leering after girls.

 

[shmmeee]

Again, it makes you wonder if it's the integration stuff.

Of course there will be a cultural different in the UK where you have girls showing off their legs in the summer and wearing tops with their belly out compared to what somebody in a strict Muslim country is used to. I am sure they will even admit that because of it they see the girls as easy.

I think it’s both. Poor English means your game isn’t going to extend much beyond “pretty lady”, which is more intimidating than normal conversation because women rely on talking down men and without language they can’t. I think there’s generally a more outgoing culture in pretty much anywhere else that can put Brits ill at ease. I think we’ve only just started managing to get British men not to catcall and the like and still haven’t achieved that so invariably bringing in people from less equal nations will set that back. And the fact that brits seem to have basically abandoned the streets so the numbers are skewed. I’d have been wandering the streets as a teen on a day like today, no doubt making the odd woman uncomfortable, but mine is sat on WhatsApp in her room.

 

[nicksar]

Which school in Rugby is that ?

Bilton mainly and to a lesser extent Ashlawn

 

[Nick]

I think it’s both. Poor English means your game isn’t going to extend much beyond “pretty lady”, which is more intimidating than normal conversation because women rely on talking down men and without language they can’t. I think there’s generally a more outgoing culture in pretty much anywhere else that can put Brits ill at ease. I think we’ve only just started managing to get British men not to catcall and the like and still haven’t achieved that so invariably bringing in people from less equal nations will set that back. And the fact that brits seem to have basically abandoned the streets so the numbers are skewed. I’d have been wandering the streets as a teen on a day like today, no doubt making the odd woman uncomfortable, but mine is sat on WhatsApp in her room.

Yeah it is like it's a good 20 years behind.

That's not saying there aren't British men who are cunts, just for confirmation.

 

[covcity4life]

The spanish there are just as bad. I remember I went to Privilege about 5 years ago and it was full of fat spanish blokes with their tops off leering after girls.

You loved it you tart

 

[covcity4life]

I think it’s both. Poor English means your game isn’t going to extend much beyond “pretty lady”, which is more intimidating than normal conversation because women rely on talking down men and without language they can’t. I think there’s generally a more outgoing culture in pretty much anywhere else that can put Brits ill at ease. I think we’ve only just started managing to get British men not to catcall and the like and still haven’t achieved that so invariably bringing in people from less equal nations will set that back. And the fact that brits seem to have basically abandoned the streets so the numbers are skewed. I’d have been wandering the streets as a teen on a day like today, no doubt making the odd woman uncomfortable, but mine is sat on WhatsApp in her room.

Who is she talking too though mate..... confiscate!!

 

[Ccfcisparks]

You loved it you tart

I remember that night I thought I was gonna shit myself because the bass in Carl Cox's set was so heavy after having a dodgy kebab the night before.

 

[shmmeee]

Who is she talking too though mate..... confiscate!!

Only people we know IRL

 

[Deleted member 5849]

A Chinese lass I knew told me her friend's husband won said friend's heart by turning up repeatedly in the middle of the night and being told to go away in no uncertain terms. 18 months later she thought his determination proved him worthy.

That's stalking in my book!

 

[Macca1987]

Anyone go down today?

Was in London Saturday for an exhibition with the wife. Decided late afternoon to go a wander and sight see. Walking towards the Mall and there were roads closed and riot vans everywhere. Wife said shall we go to Trafalgar Square for a look around, got there to see TR and all his followers having taken over the place, so we decided to skirt around the outside and make our way back up towards Leicester Square and find a quiet pub.
When we were sitting having a drink, wife states quite innocently, I thought all of his followers were white British hooligans, but I've never seen so many posh dressed woman there, or people of all different creed and colour draped in English flags

 

[shmmeee]

A Chinese lass I knew told me her friend's husband won said friend's heart by turning up repeatedly in the middle of the night and being told to go away in no uncertain terms. 18 months later she thought his determination proved him worthy.

That's stalking in my book!

Only if he’s fat

 

[shmmeee]

Was in London Saturday for an exhibition with the wife. Decided late afternoon to go a wander and sight see. Walking towards the Mall and there were roads closed and riot vans everywhere. Wife said shall we go to Trafalgar Square for a look around, got there to see TR and all his followers having taken over the place, so we decided to skirt around the outside and make our way back up towards Leicester Square and find a quiet pub.
When we were sitting having a drink, wife states quite innocently, I thought all of his followers were white British hooligans, but I've never seen so many posh dressed woman there, or people of all different creed and colour draped in English flags

The English upper classes are racist??

This is shocking news!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Only if he’s fat

It did offer ethical dilemmas when I split up from said Chinese lass. Was I supposed to fight really hard or do the British thing and say alright then, bye now?

 

[covcity4life]

Was in London Saturday for an exhibition with the wife. Decided late afternoon to go a wander and sight see. Walking towards the Mall and there were roads closed and riot vans everywhere. Wife said shall we go to Trafalgar Square for a look around, got there to see TR and all his followers having taken over the place, so we decided to skirt around the outside and make our way back up towards Leicester Square and find a quiet pub.
When we were sitting having a drink, wife states quite innocently, I thought all of his followers were white British hooligans, but I've never seen so many posh dressed woman there, or people of all different creed and colour draped in English flags

Alot of chav women fancy him

 

[shmmeee]

Alot of chav women fancy him

I think Holly Valance is fit but I’m not about to break out the MAGA hat

 

[skybluetony176]

that is one of the funniest things I’ve ever read.

wait till your daughters are up town and in a club or bar surrounded by a group drinking just a glass of coke all night preying on young girls. sure their opinion will change then

Just last week. look at the ethnicity of the preying men

It ain’t amusing at all. My eldest is 17 and starting to get a lot of attention from “men”. In the last couple of weeks alone she’s had 2 grown white men stop their cars, try to chat her up and then get the arse with her when she tells them to get lost. In her words both Tate like disciples, both in their late twenties early thirties behaving like they’re entitled to her attention.

My 15 year old sees it even more at school. We went for a group meal the other week with friends that moved away and were visiting, the son of one of the other families (who we didn’t know) was wearing an extremely sexual and misogynistic t shirt, fuck knows what the parents were thinking allowing him to wear it. Turns out he goes to school with my youngest and all the girls hate him and his mates because they’re all Tate fans.

Also I have it on good authority that the youth don’t go up town and to clubs anymore.

Anyone who thinks this is behaviour isolated to men of ethnic minorities is delusional and it’s growing faster and faster amongst young men. My eldest is able to have males in her friend group, my youngest doesn’t feel the same way. Except for one lad who is gay. She doesn’t trust the boys she goes to school with. Granted it isn’t all of them or even a majority but they’re becoming bolder and bigger in numbers for sure.