Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (24 Viewers)

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Nick

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skybluetony176 said:
It ain’t amusing at all. My eldest is 17 and starting to get a lot of attention from “men”. In the last couple of weeks alone she’s had 2 grown white men stop their cars, try to chat her up and then get the arse with her when she tells them to get lost. In her words both Tate like disciples, both in their late twenties early thirties behaving like they’re entitled to her attention.

My 15 year old sees it even more at school. We went for a group meal the other week with friends that moved away and were visiting, the son of one of the other families (who we didn’t know) was wearing an extremely sexual and misogynistic t shirt, fuck knows what the parents were thinking allowing him to wear it. Turns out he goes to school with my youngest and all the girls hate him and his mates because they’re all Tate fans.

Also I have it on good authority that the youth don’t go up town and to clubs anymore.

Anyone who thinks this is behaviour isolated to men of ethnic minorities is delusional and it’s growing faster and faster amongst young men. My eldest is able to have males in her friend group, my youngest doesn’t feel the same way. Except for one lad who is gay. She doesn’t trust the boys she goes to school with. Granted it isn’t all of them or even a majority but they’re becoming bolder and bigger in numbers for sure.
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Read what people have said, nobody is saying it's isolated but it is part of other cultures.
 
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I can't see the question but I mean what's u out elsewhere. You constantly challenge certain positions but not others. You used to challenge all of them, even if annoying! There's no way pre COVID some of Gimoc and ESB's posts would have been allowed to stand without endless questioning. And yeah you'd still wind me up too but at least it'd be equitable!
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Give it a rest. It's 27c outside. Go and sit in the garden and have a beer, or pick some flowers. Whatever brings yourself some cheer in general.
 
Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Grendel said:
Most groups that have groomed young white women are Pakistani Muslims. It’s not racist to point out that basic fact
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It might be on here . 😯
 
skybluetony176

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Nick said:
Read what people have said, nobody is saying it's isolated but it is part of other cultures.
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Nobody is saying it isn’t happening in other cultures. I’m pointing out my own daughter’s experiences and people are lining up to dismiss it. My daughters feel more vulnerable to the followers of Tate than they do the followers of Islam. That’s just a fact.
 
skybluetony176

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hill83 said:
Andrew Tate is mixed race by the way, not sure if that changes anything just wanted to say it.

As you were.
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Wasn’t his dad a chess master too?

It doesn’t change anything just because he is mixed race. My daughter’s personal experience is that his disciples are white though. That also seems to me the wider pattern for his following too, they’re visibly majority white.
 
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skybluetony176 said:
Wasn’t his dad a chess master too?

It doesn’t change anything just because he is mixed race. My daughter’s personal experience is that his disciples are white though. That also seems to me the wider pattern for his following too, they’re visibly majority white.
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Does that conclude that black people are more intelligent then, for not falling for the bull?
 
Nick

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skybluetony176 said:
Nobody is saying it isn’t happening in other cultures. I’m pointing out my own daughter’s experiences and people are lining up to dismiss it. My daughters feel more vulnerable to the followers of Tate than they do the followers of Islam. That’s just a fact.
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Who's dismissing it?

You keep saying the same. We know he's a fucking wrongun and his mindset is trying to take people back decades.
 
TomRad85

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skybluetony176 said:
Wasn’t his dad a chess master too?

It doesn’t change anything just because he is mixed race. My daughter’s personal experience is that his disciples are white though. That also seems to me the wider pattern for his following too, they’re visibly majority white.
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What do you reckon to Rudoni? Good signing imo, think he'll do well.

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Alan Dugdales Moustache

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skybluetony176 said:
Nobody is saying it isn’t happening in other cultures. I’m pointing out my own daughter’s experiences and people are lining up to dismiss it. My daughters feel more vulnerable to the followers of Tate than they do the followers of Islam. That’s just a fact.
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Do Tate followers have a Tate badge ? how does she know they're Tate followers ? Likewise , can she tell if people follow Islam , because I can't .
 
skybluetony176

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Otis said:
Does that conclude that black people are more intelligent then, for not falling for the bull?
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I think it probably means that they have bigger issues than pretending to be the victims of wokeness as a rough rule of thumb. Let’s not beat around the bush, there’s a certain type of white man that are drawn to the likes of Tommy Robinson, Lawrence Fox, Katie Hopkins, Tate etc. and that’s their intended audience too.
 
skybluetony176

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Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
Do Tate followers have a Tate badge ? how does she know they're Tate followers ? Likewise , can she tell if people follow Islam , because I can't .
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I can easily imagine that there’s a lot you can’t tell the difference between. Tate followers don’t tend to shy away from admitting it. Neither do Muslims. It’s becoming a real issue in schools, you can dismiss it if you like but it doesn’t change the fact. The difference between the boys in my eldests year to the boys in my youngests year is stark and there’s only 2 years between them. It’s escalating and they’re getting them younger and younger.
 
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skybluetony176 said:
I can easily imagine that there’s a lot you can’t tell the difference between. Tate followers don’t tend to shy away from admitting it. Neither do Muslims. It’s becoming a real issue in schools, you can dismiss it if you like but it doesn’t change the fact. The difference between the boys in my eldests year to the boys in my youngests year is stark and there’s only 2 years between them. It’s escalating and they’re getting them younger and younger.
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Thoughts on Rudoni's signing Tony?
 
Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Ian1779 said:
I’m not sure what point you are making here? Why would schools be saying anything about immigration at all?
I think it is far more likely to be social media influence that drives comments or opinions than parental influence.
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So why mention schools at all ? You say it's most likely parents or tiktoc.
Just because a school is 98% white doesn't make it racist, nor the kids that attend.
 
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Grendel

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Nick said:
Who's dismissing it?

You keep saying the same. We know he's a fucking wrongun and his mindset is trying to take people back decades.
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Tony does seem to have a lot of anecdotal tales to tell with relatives and friends to support a narrative. None of this is of course confirmed.
 
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hamertime said:
And?

Do you think there would have been Muslims protesting if it was white guys who had been grooming Muslim girls when social services knew all along? Of course they would there would be riots.

The vast majority only care about themselves and have no intention of integrating. You’re burying your head in the sand. Why do you think they don’t join the armed forces the number is pathetic, in the hundreds. It’s because they put their Muslim brothers all
around the world before they do this country.
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That is a divisive and ignorant comment and such reactionary comments are part of the problem. I know schools are very worried about the rise in misogyny/conspiracies fuelled by Tate and racism/police/media/WOKE conspiracies fuelled by Yaxley-Lennon amongst teenage boys. Likewise I know through my sons friends that schools are aware there are far right Muslim brainwashing/groomers targeting kids with negative conspiracy stories about Israel and western government's culture etc. Sure there are some radical lefty organisations out there too wanting to distort the truth and fight back. It all has to stop as we are in danger of going down the US route which may well explode in 6 months time. There are people in many groups/camps in UK and across much of Europe bragging about the need for uprisings and taking back control etc. I don't get the narcissism, insecurity and lack of education amongst all these groups. We all need to work together strengthen the economy, get a decent job a nice safe house, relax with our families and friends and enjoy life and the footy. There are too many people searching for conspiracies and stories to stoke the culture/race wars and try and prove certain political/social trends that really just don't exist.... its all just very peculiar. Guess man's incessant political lust for power, sex and money does weird things to people's minds and want to attract attention. I find it odd that said 'followers' don't take a step back from what they may be hearing, take a breath and think is this true, does this help society and this country whatever political/cultural/religious views they have. This country has massive opportunity and potential yet its all just frittering away through in fighting, jealousy and bullshit information designed to influence gullible people. My mum reads the Daily Mail and its bewildering how much she laps up the misinformation and inaccurate spin they put on everything - I cannot fathom how they sleep at night knowing they do this so incessantly on every single story/article rather than take a proper journalistic approach.

Guess we all get drawn into this battle at time with our views, but its not healthy physically or mentally and UK is a great diverse free place but it could be so much nicer and fulfilling.
 
Alan Dugdales Moustache

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Grendel said:
Tony does seem to have a lot of anecdotal tales to tell with relatives and friends to support a narrative. None of this is of course confirmed.
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I've got 9 daughters and all of them say......
 
Nick

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I just think that kids should be kids and not even worrying about politics or propaganda.

I think the main propaganda we saw was somebody in a metro with speakers driving round saying vote for so and so.

The internet is ruining them and COVID didn't help as it forced more of them online all day every day.
 
Ian1779

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Alan Dugdales Moustache said:
So why mention schools at all ? You say it's most likely parents or tiktoc.
Just because a school is 98% white doesn't make it racist, nor the kids that attend.
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Because schools don’t fit into one homogenous blob where the cohort demographics are all the same - context is important.
I never mentioned or asserted a school being racist based on its proportion of white attendees. You’ve made that jump all on your own.
 
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