Gathering for Tommy / Discontent (30 Viewers)

[skybluetony176]

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Presume this is correct. Oh dear

I suspect that won’t stop Tommy if he does actually have an Irish passport as he will have his rights protected under freedom of movement. Interestingly though there is a case for keeping him out of the UK. See Shamima Begum for reference.

 

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[CCFCSteve]

It's just more misinformation.

Is it ? Criminal conviction I thought might bar you from getting an esta for US ? Wasn’t sure about EU ones. Not particularly harmful misinformation either way. Anything that makes people stop and think

 

[rob9872]

Let me know where you're meeting, mate. Hands off our football!

And remember, no face, no case.

(I'm wearing trainers though. I don't have to outrun the police dog, I just have to outrun you.)

I'm too fat, gotta stand and fight. Need to dig out the stone island, although only XL so about 3 Xs short. Will look like a boob tube. That should put a few off scrapping but one or two might to want to fk me

 

[David O'Day]

Taking chisel to a fight with the police, what did he think would happen

 

[SBAndy]

If he'd been an Asian looking bloke do you think he'd have been attacked and kicked by the mob?

It’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove in court.

 

[David O'Day]

It’s not what you know, it’s what you can prove in court.

This is the thing, in the videos you know why the attack him but there's nothing that would prove that beyond reasonable doubt yet.

 

[Sick Boy]

Is it ? Criminal conviction I thought might bar you from getting an esta for US ? Wasn’t sure about EU ones. Not particularly harmful misinformation either way. Anything that makes people stop and think

I don’t disagree but neither of them will have live access to global police databases.

 

[David O'Day]

I don’t disagree but neither of them will have live access to global police databases.

wouldn't the have to apply for a visa, at least to the states?

 

[Sick Boy]

wouldn't the have to apply for a visa, at least to the states?

If they were honest about it I guess but I’m sure plenty of people who’ve smoked weed have entered on an esta without issues, which technically bars them.

 

[David O'Day]

If they were honest about it I guess but I’m sure plenty of people who’ve smoked weed have entered on an esta without issues, which technically bars them.

yes but it's the conviction not the committal of the crime

loads of people get knocked back from the states for drug arrests

 

[David O'Day]

Conviction for incitement without a "protest" actually happening

Surely they should get similar to what those just stop oil people did

 

[CCFCSteve]

If they were honest about it I guess but I’m sure plenty of people who’ve smoked weed have entered on an esta without issues, which technically bars them.

Just never tick the ‘have you ever taken drugs’ box

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Just never tick the ‘have you ever taken drugs’ box

And whatever you do don't tick the yes box for the have you committed genocide question

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Went on my daily walk and some nice interactions with random people. There are good people in world important to remember that. These idiots are the minority.

Gonna TRY duck out of this thread for a bit. Notice mental health taken a dip last few days as I redownloaded twitter to keep up with riots and now my feed is non stop bullshit and I started watching the news again. Also this place just arguing. Even if your right hate and anger don't make you happy!

Peace brothers from different mothers.

Isn't twitter just full of people arguing ?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Isn't twitter just full of people arguing ?

Home from home you might say!

 

[Grendel]

Been told I have to work from home tomorrow (sorry Malc) as busses have been cancelled due to a planned meet up at an immigration lawyers.

I know someone whose company has told them to work from home in Birmingham tomorrow

 

[Alan Dugdales Moustache]

Maybe, but we are talking about events happening right now. Events that meant I had to weigh up whether or not I wanted to take my son to Bham today, and left me worrying that the harmless preachers near the Bull Ring were going to get attacked.

and that's nothing. Millions of people born in this country will be worried about going to worship or just leaving their house dressing how they choose to dress. If that gets me a bit worked up , I'll let myself off. People should be worried about how this started.

I don't think you should tell everyone they should be worried. Most people don't spend all day on social media getting worked up. Those that do will simply damage their mental well being .

 

[duffer]

I suspect that won’t stop Tommy if he does actually have an Irish passport as he will have his rights protected under freedom of movement. Interestingly though there is a case for keeping him out of the UK. See Shamima Begum for reference.

He's got an outstanding warrant hasn't he, contempt of court?

If so, if have thought he'll get nicked at the airport/port as soon as he arrives. At least it's hope so. I think he might find a few charges added to the sheet too...

 

[duffer]

He's got an outstanding warrant hasn't he, contempt of court?

If so, if have thought he'll get nicked at the airport/port as soon as he arrives. At least it's hope so. I think he might find a few charges added to the sheet too...

Sorry, not quite accurate. The warrant is paused until October.

Playing the court system for time and wasting taxpayers money. It's an outrage, I tell ya, an outrage. Send him back to where he came from.

Tommy Robinson leaves UK on eve of court case with arrest warrant issued

The far-right activist Stephen Yaxley-Lennon left the UK by a Eurotunnel train on Sunday night.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[fernandopartridge]

It's ironic that loads convicted will have no doubt been supportive of the jail sentences for the Just Stop Oil lot or various kettling of similar movements over the last few years.

 

[MalcSB]

Yeah but...Harefield...yeah but...keir taking the knee...

Harefield?

 

[MalcSB]

Sorry, I was thinking about scooters.

There needs to be a crackdown on electric scooters.

 

[MalcSB]

I suppose the argument is, if it was racially motivated, why didn't they attack everyone else in the pub? Were they chanting, we hate whites/christians, or fuck the EDL? There's a difference.

I also think racially motivated is a higher bar (and gets a longer sentence).

It's obvious if you're attacking mosques, less so if you're attacking pubs. I'm not justifying it by the way, not for a minute. Those lads need to go away for a long time too. And if found, they will.

If that was a group of white men attacking a single guy of different ethnicity, it would be surprising if it wasn’t pursued as a racially aggravated / hate crime.

Not venturing in to the pub to be possibly confronted with a large number of white guysisn’t really a defence is it.

 

[robbiekeane]

Went on my daily walk and some nice interactions with random people. There are good people in world important to remember that. These idiots are the minority.

Gonna TRY duck out of this thread for a bit. Notice mental health taken a dip last few days as I redownloaded twitter to keep up with riots and now my feed is non stop bullshit and I started watching the news again. Also this place just arguing. Even if your right hate and anger don't make you happy!

Peace brothers from different mothers.

In out of off topic as well for a bit I reckon. Just deleted Twitter

 

[Nick]

Went on my daily walk and some nice interactions with random people. There are good people in world important to remember that. These idiots are the minority.

Gonna TRY duck out of this thread for a bit. Notice mental health taken a dip last few days as I redownloaded twitter to keep up with riots and now my feed is non stop bullshit and I started watching the news again. Also this place just arguing. Even if your right hate and anger don't make you happy!

Peace brothers from different mothers.

Most sensible thing you have ever said

I agree and if it will help people I'm happy to lock the thread for a bit?

Step back. Get some air and see the world isn't burning.

I don't mean that to be patronising as I've done the same too.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

If you think that mentioning something once is obsessing, its you that is very weird.

Classic. You've been talking about female or male boxers as well and hitting 'it' in genitals. Nice.!

 

[MalcSB]

Classic. You've been talking about female or male boxers as well and hitting 'it' in genitals. Nice.!

No I haven’t. You really are stark raving bonkers.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Thinking about it Saturday's match is a real risk. If it kicks off tommorow at the 30 events planned that Sky just mentioned I cannot see how police will cope with policing footy matches where tensions could be high. Imagine few thousand Stoke fans if result doesn't go their way. I imagine Cobra are looking very hard at this given Hull, Middlesbrough, Leeds and Millwall are all at home.

 

[rob9872]

No I haven’t. You really are stark raving bonkers.

It was me ... and I said 'her' ... and the fact I coupled it with bollocks really was the joke! I give up

 

[Grendel]

Classic. You've been talking about female or male boxers as well and hitting 'it' in genitals. Nice.!

You really need to get off the cheap Ukrainian vodka Charles.

 

[SBAndy]

Thinking about it Saturday's match is a real risk. If it kicks off tommorow at the 30 events planned that Sky just mentioned I cannot see how police will cope with policing footy matches where tensions could be high. Imagine few thousand Stoke fans if result doesn't go their way. I imagine Cobra are looking very hard at this given Hull, Middlesbrough, Leeds and Millwall are all at home.

Can’t they just assume all the dickheads will not be at the football?

 

[MalcSB]

It was me ... and I said 'her' ... and the fact I coupled it with bollocks really was the joke! I give up

I will await an apology from @SkyBlueCharlie9 . I won’t hold my breath though.

 

[Grendel]

I will await an apology from @SkyBlueCharlie9 . I won’t hold my breath though.

He is probably passed out by now

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Not really. They weren't law bound as he was underage, at the time, but the Judge released his name although in law he didnt have to. And his name/ethnicity was known before the violence over the weekend, so where's the excuse for that?

Presume that post was meant for me but you misquoted, if you read again i said they were law bound NOT to release the name at the time so its not necessarily the police who should be criticised but perhaps someone above them should have acted sooner to stop the spread of the misinformation sooner

No excuse but a lot of the damage was done at this point as people had already spent days on social media whipping each other up into a frenzy.

I think this happening so quickly after the Manchester airport incident also was a factor in the response as people became convinced it was a conspiracy to protect a particular group, unjustly in their view.

Lessons should be learned as this situation now could have been prevented imo.

 

[SBAndy]

Farage is an absolute wank ain’t he.