Profit on players (5 Viewers)
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lord_garrincha
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We could have on Simms, if rumours are correct, but chose not to.
clint van damme
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This Is part of the problem in my book.
I think King is signing players based on increasing their value and moving them on with little thought to how they can advance us as,a team.
I think his head was turned by the Vik and Hamer sales which were the exception rather than the rule.
It's fine using that as a model, but you still have to supplement you squad with signings that won't have sell on value but will bolster your squad, loans, over 30s etc.
Really, from where? I think he could do ok elsewhere if he can have it laid on a plate for him
Johnnythespider
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Jake Bidwell
I think you are right but I'm more worried that may not see a return for some
clint van damme
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It's not looking good on several fronts at the moment
Brentford?
Never knew that.
Johnnythespider
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Maybe Bournemouth after selling Solanke to Tottenham
skybluecam
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At the end of last season I was confident we could turn a profit on Wright, Simms, Sakamoto, Milan. In fact the only player I the thought we’d struggle to break even on is Kitching.
If this season’s dross continues it’s impossible to know really. But I still think those four players I named were good signings.
If this season’s dross continues it’s impossible to know really. But I still think those four players I named were good signings.
Not sure we will get the money back on Wright. Feel like he is going to fade here. Might well do ok elsewhere
Definitely MVE
Not really sure, didn't really shine today,if that carries on ll.
skybluecam
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It was £7.7m. If he’d continued last season’s form he’d easily be worth that.
Part of last season
BlueSkiesForever
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Completely agree, I was talking about this with my old man today, when you look back it was a no-brainer for King to buy us and sell Gyokeres and Hamer. Easy £35 mil in the bank for him, then just buys a load of players with that cash so he can then make a decent return when he sells them.
I’m not saying King is a bad owner, he’s obviously improved training facilities and brought in extra coaches etc but I do wonder how much King genuinely cares about the future of the club, i.e. buying Bassette when we clearly needed a midfielder. If it all starts going tits up then he could sell whatever players he likes knowing that he’s going to make a massive profit for whatever he bought the club for. Sheaf, Van Ewijk, Haji, Simms, Eccles, Sakamoto have got to be worth at least £60 mil combined (not that he’d sell the whole lot in one go, I’m just giving that as an example).
Never get 45 million for Sheaf
King wouldn’t have decided we wanted Bassette he would have been presented with the request to buy him from the recruitment team and the management team. All he would do is sanction the purchase.
itsabuzzard
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Doesn't your argument hinge on knowing "...whatever he bought the club for." So what was it?
BlueSkiesForever
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I’m genuinely not sure tbf, wasn’t there a rumour it was for £1? But surely not?
Either way I’d be very surprised if King couldn’t sell 3-4 assets and make a decent amount of cash out of the whole enterprise (not saying he will but it’s surely something King would have considered before venturing into buying us).
BlueSkiesForever
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Yeah fair enough but he’s the one that made the final decision to buy Bassette over a midfielder, and I’m sure the numerous coaches we now have would’ve been saying we need a midfielder or two rather than an extra striker.
The onus is on King to give the manager the right tools to get results, the fact he chose to go for the potential cash return in Bassette rather than a midfield player that we desperately needed makes me wonder how committed to our club he is.
itsabuzzard
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I give up.I’m genuinely not sure tbf, wasn’t there a rumour it was for £1? But surely not?
Of course he will make the final decision but how do you know he made that decision over buying a midfielder, that’s pure speculation.?
King will always argue he gives the manager the right tools in that he provides a budget and strategy to work to. The manager agrees to the task it then his job to the implement it.
There is no evidence to say and certainly no fact to say he chose to go for the potential cash return on Bassette rather than a midfielder.
Buying Bassette and any young player is part of their overall strategy of buying young developing them then selling for a profit some it works on others it doesn’t.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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We should have sold him to Luton for the 5 million or whatever they were offering. The cash could have gone towards two new midfielders that actually want to fight for the club, won't force out the assistant manager, and aren't injured for half the season. Pathetic excuse for a captain.
So much is right at the club at the moment. The whole ethos of the set up hasn’t fallen away altogether. Almost everything has improved apart from the performances and attitude on the pitch but even then the Spurs game showed they can be better.
Something is amiss with the coaching, set up and morale of the squad…..But why ??
Something is amiss with the coaching, set up and morale of the squad…..But why ??
Sick Boy
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If the players aren’t following simple instructions, it’s down to issues they have with the manager/coaches.
Saddlebrains
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Making the club apparently premier league off the field but making it bottom end championship on field is special
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BlueSkiesForever
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I just think that if an owner was intent on getting to the prem they’d be addressing the serious issues in the side rather than faffing around adding extra strikers that we don’t need just because they might make you some extra cash.
I’m not saying that the club having extra cash from a return on an investment is a bad thing, clearly not, but the obvious issue that needed addressing first was the midfield and that wasn’t resolved. And I don’t buy the idea for one second that there wasn’t a midfielder out there suitable for us, literally hundreds and hundreds of midfielders across Europe and UK and instead we spent £2-3 mil on Bassette, just seems a bit odd to me.
A lot of melodrama on here again:
profit on every player bar Kitchin athe moment.
I’ve ignored EMC / Dovin on basis it’s too early to judge.
If wright rediscovers last seasons output he would go for in excess of £10m.
I agree we need a bit more experience but I’m told we tried hard to get that in midfield, thought we had it, and on 2 occasions it fell through at the 11th hour.
We also tried for a loan late in the window.
We are not being quite so poor as some would have you believe.
profit on every player bar Kitchin athe moment.
I’ve ignored EMC / Dovin on basis it’s too early to judge.
If wright rediscovers last seasons output he would go for in excess of £10m.
I agree we need a bit more experience but I’m told we tried hard to get that in midfield, thought we had it, and on 2 occasions it fell through at the 11th hour.
We also tried for a loan late in the window.
We are not being quite so poor as some would have you believe.
SkyBlue_Bear83
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Looking like we should have sold Wright and Simms in the summer right now, would have got £10-15 million each for them