MalcSB
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Labour donor Waheed Alli under Lords investigation over register of interests
Peer who gave gifts to Keir Starmer is being investigated after complaint he did not declare interests correctly
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fernandopartridge
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I know, it was and is a disaster. UHCW like many other trusts will still be paying the price for a few years yet.
MalcSB
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But at least the corridors are always being painted white.
MalcSB
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Israel has probably put paid to interest rate cuts as the price of oil goes up.
shmmeee
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Labour donor Waheed Alli under Lords investigation over register of interests
Peer who gave gifts to Keir Starmer is being investigated after complaint he did not declare interests correctlywww.theguardian.com
Tories going hard to take out a major donor
skybluetony176
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I’m guessing the key word there is full time I.e. they’re not unemployed they’re just not working full time. UK unemployment figures are currently at about 1.4 million for comparison.
Shit twats, USA will love that!
I was betting this month to coincide with the autumn statement, fucking stupid!
Nick
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4.3 million can't work at all. The others part time.
skybluetony176
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Well, again. To put that into some sort of context if you take just one serious illness, say cancer, over 3 million people (and rising) in the UK have cancer at any given time. The majority of which are working age. That’s just one serious illness that I would think justifies not being able to work due to illness. That figure don’t look bad at all when you start adding context to it. I’m guessing where you gleaned it from though didn’t add context as the purpose was to trigger people incapable of critical thinking.
Grendel
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A lot of people who have cancer do still work
And a lot can't!
Well it's already showing up in the currency trading but probably due to the remarks of the BOE,and so they should as it's been too high for two long, hopefully the greedy manipulative traders have made their killing!
Nick
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Critical thinking? You have assumed people get laid off as soon as they get a cancer diagnosis.
This is people unable to be in employment / not employed.
skybluetony176
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More than likely. Just on cancer for instance, just because you’ve stopped receiving treatment doesn’t mean you’re recovered. My mother is a bowel cancer survivor, she was diagnosed 2 years before retirement, had 18 months of work and went back for the last 6 months part time. I only found out last week how long it actually took her to recover. She never let on at the time but my daughter interviewed her for a school project and the questions led to the biggest adversity she’d ever overcome. Which was obviously the cancer. It was only then that I learned that the 6 months she was forced to return to work before retiring was the hardest period in her recovery. She also recons it took her 3 years before she felt well again.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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My missus is in HR for a large company and the amount of people off sick is ridiculous. You can get between 6 and 12 months paid with the company for it.
There's clearly a big mental health crisis in the UK and every time I come back the whole place just feels depressed. A lot of the people off work with sickness are off with mental health issues. You have then got those physically sick, and certainly a chunk that are just bone-idol as well. I say this from seeing it first hand, but also my missus who tells me there are a lot of people that they have to investigate because it turns out they are faking it. There's a lot of time spent investigating the large amount of people off sick, and for good reason.
There's clearly a big mental health crisis in the UK and every time I come back the whole place just feels depressed. A lot of the people off work with sickness are off with mental health issues. You have then got those physically sick, and certainly a chunk that are just bone-idol as well. I say this from seeing it first hand, but also my missus who tells me there are a lot of people that they have to investigate because it turns out they are faking it. There's a lot of time spent investigating the large amount of people off sick, and for good reason.
shmmeee
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We’ve just had a pandemic and waiting lists are at an all time high.
Also this is going to include all early retirement people right?
Also this is going to include all early retirement people right?
shmmeee
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If you’re off work on the sick you’re not unemployed so you’re not in these numbers. This is economically inactive and not looking for work so includes students carers, retirees, housewives, etc.
skybluetony176
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I don’t know how came to that conclusion, I never said anything remotely like that. Maybe you’re over compensating and over critically thinking and adding your own context.
skybluetony176
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And?
skybluetony176
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And we’re talking about one illness out of hundreds and hundreds that legitimately and justifiably keep people from working.
Nick
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Because saying 3 million have cancer doesn't really mean much, does it?
Like a decent contract for conditions etc,less of the zero hours then really quite simple when you're not trying to screw people over really!
skybluetony176
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Why doesn’t it?
You’re getting triggered by people being too unwell to work. I can’t believe that you’ve never been close to someone who has cancer and seen what they’ve gone through. And as I’ve already said. That’s just one illness in hundreds and hundreds that can quite justifiably be reason to be unavailable for work.
Nick
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Because it is unemployed numbers, not people off work sick.
Yes I've seen people in jobs be diagnosed with cancer. They had time off work, they weren't laid off and made unemployed.
Not triggered in the slightest.
skybluetony176
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So UK official current unemployed number is 1.4 million of which you’re claiming 4.3 million are on the sick. Where are you getting these numbers from again?
shmmeee
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It’s everyone 16-65 not in work and not looking for whatever reason that might be.
Simple then, share the results of their labour more equitably, and stop worshipping greed and all that goes with it!