Rhys Carr - Interim Head Coach (31 Viewers)

SBT

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Think people are discounting the chances of this guy getting the job full time. The only person we know to be involved with hiring decisions who is still at the club (Claire-Marie Roberts šŸ˜±šŸ˜±) is clearly a huge fan and he will gladly work under the structure favoured by the club hierarchy. If heā€™s in charge for long enough to win four or five games on the bounce then whatā€™s stopping him from getting it?
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Nick

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Think people are discounting the chances of this guy getting the job full time. The only person we know to be involved with hiring decisions who is still at the club (Claire-Marie Roberts šŸ˜±šŸ˜±) is clearly a huge fan and he will gladly work under the structure favoured by the club hierarchy. If heā€™s in charge for long enough to win four or five games on the bounce then whatā€™s stopping him from getting it?
Like thorn all over again
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David O'Day

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Think people are discounting the chances of this guy getting the job full time. The only person we know to be involved with hiring decisions who is still at the club (Claire-Marie Roberts šŸ˜±šŸ˜±) is clearly a huge fan and he will gladly work under the structure favoured by the club hierarchy. If heā€™s in charge for long enough to win four or five games on the bounce then whatā€™s stopping him from getting it?
the fact we will looking to appoint someone way before then
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Sbarcher

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Off you go boys. Give me a 7.5 today.
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Otis

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Is that a fact? The only thing we know about the hiring process is that the club will ā€œtake its timeā€.
Yeah, but this is the world of football and 200%, so taking its time will probably only be 6 and a half minutes.
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clint van damme

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Because the club was trying to improve everything from what we had?

It's all been explained about the structure and the whys.

Still, robins was here with a gun to his head and everything was against his will and all the bad stuff wasn't anything to do with him. That's what you want to hear, right?

The irony about you saying people make things up in their head.

Let's put everything on Robins, he had 7 years of success.
He then stopped using loans, got rid of the experience and got rid of the assistant position that had served him so well.
He brings in a new coaching structure, results go bad, Robins gone.
But let's keep the methods that failed! Haha!

And I've criticsed Robins, you've liked posts of mine where I've criticised him!!
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Otis

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The irony about you saying people make things up in their head.

Let's put everything on Robins, he had 7 years of success.
He then stopped using loans, got rid of the experience and got rid of the assistant position that had served him so well.
He brings in a new coaching structure, results go bad, Robins gone.
But let's keep the methods that failed! Haha!

And I've criticsed Robins, you've liked posts of mine where I've criticised him!!
Doesn't add up does it.
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Flying Fokker

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Think people are discounting the chances of this guy getting the job full time. The only person we know to be involved with hiring decisions who is still at the club (Claire-Marie Roberts šŸ˜±šŸ˜±) is clearly a huge fan and he will gladly work under the structure favoured by the club hierarchy. If heā€™s in charge for long enough to win four or five games on the bounce then whatā€™s stopping him from getting it?
Huge fan? Not sure that recruitment is about being a fan of someone given that they can be sacked if underperforming.
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Darth Robins

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The irony about you saying people make things up in their head.

Let's put everything on Robins, he had 7 years of success.
He then stopped using loans, got rid of the experience and got rid of the assistant position that had served him so well.
He brings in a new coaching structure, results go bad, Robins gone.
But let's keep the methods that failed! Haha!

And I've criticsed Robins, you've liked posts of mine where I've criticised him!!
Maybe if you explain that the coaching structure needs to be two-footed it'll break through, otherwise I think you're expecting too much abstract thought here ;).
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Think people are ignoring robins quotes about the coaching setup. The ones where he says he was planning how it would work while interviewing them.

It's fucking weird.
Yeah, that never felt right.

It is was something MR was fully on board with, or even instigated, he'd have known long before an interview process how he would want it to work.

I'm still sure he got told it was happening and either agree with it or leave.
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Hobo

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Tomorrow the players will be in training to prepare for the game at Sunderland. What experience is Rhys going to draw on to support him in the preparations?

Who should it be then?
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skybluecam

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Why is this thread 5 pages long?

He's a caretaker with 0 chance of getting the job full time and I'd be shocked if he's in charge for more than 1 game.
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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, that never felt right.

It is was something MR was fully on board with, or even instigated, he'd have know longer before an interview process how he would want it to work.

I'm still sure he got told it was happening and either agree with it or leave.
Robins: regularly complains under SISU that we donā€™t have the back room to compete with the teams at the top

king comes in and brings in the setup

robins:
Surprised Meme GIF
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Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Robins: regularly complains under SISU that we donā€™t have the back room to compete with the teams at the top

king comes in and brings in the setup

robins:
Surprised Meme GIF
He might have wanted more staff to help. Doesn't mean he wants them in the structure he was given them.
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clint van damme

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Robins: regularly complains under SISU that we donā€™t have the back room to compete with the teams at the top

king comes in and brings in the setup

robins:
Surprised Meme GIF

What was the number of staff brought in compared to the number departed?
And what was the quality of them?
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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I can't, no. You're the one who mentioned the set up King has brought in so I'm asking you about it.
Iā€™m pro the set up myself, I think itā€™s more fluid and modern in line with what is needed and desired by newer players.

Iā€™d suggest the issues weā€™ve suffered from are tactical, and therefore rest with Robins. Despite my previous concerns I actually think we were starting to turn it around as suggested by other posters.

I ask about the coaches because everyone is determined to blame them but canā€™t pinpoint what theyā€™ve actually done wrong
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shmmeee

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Iā€™m pro the set up myself, I think itā€™s more fluid and modern in line with what is needed and desired by newer players.

Iā€™d suggest the issues weā€™ve suffered from are tactical, and therefore rest with Robins. Despite my previous concerns I actually think we were starting to turn it around as suggested by other posters.

I ask about the coaches because everyone is determined to blame them but canā€™t pinpoint what theyā€™ve actually done wrong

I thought the whole point was to be less fluid?
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clint van damme

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Iā€™m pro the set up myself, I think itā€™s more fluid and modern in line with what is needed and desired by newer players.

Iā€™d suggest the issues weā€™ve suffered from are tactical, and therefore rest with Robins. Despite my previous concerns I actually think we were starting to turn it around as suggested by other posters.

I ask about the coaches because everyone is determined to blame them but canā€™t pinpoint what theyā€™ve actually done wrong

I've not blamed them. You said Robins wanted more coaches in, I'm merely asking is the coaching staff bigger given the departures and what is the quality of those I coming compared to those outgoing?
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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I've not blamed them. You said Robins wanted more coaches in, I'm merely asking is the coaching staff bigger given the departures and what is the quality of those I coming compared to those outgoing?
Yeah Iā€™d suggest it is
Carr - looks at the individual development of each player.
Boeteng and Delaney appear to have backfilled roles,
dempster seems to have stepped up form his previous role

I agree on the bizarre Williams move though. If heā€™s coaching the defence, I canā€™t defend that - heā€™s a goalkeeping coach

bizarrely I reckon we get a new assistant manager with the new man which robins sorely could have done with
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Old Warwickshire lad

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So youā€™re saying thereā€™s nothing wrong with the coaching,itā€™s all down to Robins tactics.
We canā€™t defend set pieces,bring everyone back for corners and have no outlet.
The midfield is not functioning, we have stopped moving the ball quickly ( which is something we have become renowned for over the previous seasons ).
This in turn stops us getting the ball forward quickly to catch defenders unprepared.
The whole team set up is a shambles, but itā€™s all down to the manager. The coaches have no responsibility for any of this.
Genuine question, what are the coaches actually doing on a day to day basis then ?
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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So youā€™re saying thereā€™s nothing wrong with the coaching,itā€™s all down to Robins tactics.
We canā€™t defend set pieces,bring everyone back for corners and have no outlet.
The midfield is not functioning, we have stopped moving the ball quickly ( which is something we have become renowned for over the previous seasons ).
This in turn stops us getting the ball forward quickly to catch defenders unprepared.
The whole team set up is a shambles, but itā€™s all down to the manager. The coaches have no responsibility for any of this.
Genuine question, what are the coaches actually doing on a day to day basis then ?
Robins has regularly started most of his seasons with us with a low risk passing game. Itā€™s slow and cumbersome.

After it doesnā€™t work he reverts to the quick passing counter attacking game that suits us well, hence for me the reason we start the season badly usually.

maybe heā€™d have done it again, but King clearly didnā€™t want to give him the chance.

his team selections have become more erratic, Rudoni at left back Sakamoto as the 10 more recently.

is he totally responsible? No - I feel the players share ultimately the main blame but you canā€™t fuck 25 players off, itā€™s always the manage that gets canned.

the players look confused, as if they werenā€™t sure of what theyā€™re doing. This is translated to them via the manager.

In terms of coaches - thatā€™s precisely what Iā€™m on about, mass criticism but nobody knows what they do. Their job is to drill in what the manager is asking the team to do, Robins changes formation every week - how do you expect them to work on that?
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Old Warwickshire lad

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Robins has regularly started most of his seasons with us with a low risk passing game. Itā€™s slow and cumbersome.

After it doesnā€™t work he reverts to the quick passing counter attacking game that suits us well, hence for me the reason we start the season badly usually.

maybe heā€™d have done it again, but King clearly didnā€™t want to give him the chance.

his team selections have become more erratic, Rudoni at left back Sakamoto as the 10 more recently.

is he totally responsible? No - I feel the players share ultimately the main blame but you canā€™t fuck 25 players off, itā€™s always the manage that gets canned.

the players look confused, as if they werenā€™t sure of what theyā€™re doing. This is translated to them via the manager.

In terms of coaches - thatā€™s precisely what Iā€™m on about, mass criticism but nobody knows what they do. Their job is to drill in what the manager is asking the team to do, Robins changes formation every week - how do you expect them to work on that?
Surely they work as a team. Or do you seriously think Robins had all these new coaches, and gave them instructions which they followed with no input.
Youā€™re telling me that professional coaches new to a club, watching a team fail on the pitch due to tactics, turn up each day and go through the same process without ever saying hey up gaffer I think we need to change this ?
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Grendel

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Best hope we lose on Saturday otherwise theyā€™ll take the cheap option and give him the job permanently

If we won there would be people demanding it like they did with Thorn
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HuckerbyDublinWhelan

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Surely they work as a team. Or do you seriously think Robins had all these new coaches, and gave them instructions which they followed with no input.
Youā€™re telling me that professional coaches new to a club, watching a team fail on the pitch due to tactics, turn up each day and go through the same process without ever saying hey up gaffer I think we need to change this ?
Maybe they have? Might explain the allegations of mixed messages?

ultimately Robins is accountable for the on the pitch stuff.
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