Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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We're 17th, not cut adrift with one win in 24th place.
What’s your expectation for the new guy? (60 Viewers)
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We're 17th, not cut adrift with one win in 24th place.
Nick
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Yeah so that's why expectations now will be slightly different to the start of the season.
Obviously at the start of the next season the expectation will be there if not higher.
Grendel
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Plymouth then are also in the running for the play offs
Plymouth barely scraped survival last year, got promoted from the league below the year before
We finished 9th last year and were play off finalists the year before. The two are not the same.
Anyone comfortable with midtable now is going to need to explain to me what the point in sacking Robins in November was. Especially considering that anyone replacing him will flat out not have the record he does.
The only reason to sack him now, is because you gamble on the new person still delivering the start of the season target. Else we could have given Robins the season and said goodbye.
skybluecam
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And I'm not surprised the feverish Robins loyalists are now setting unrealistic expectations for the new manager so they can inevitably call him a "failure" and pat themselves on the back for being right.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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Behave.
shmmeee
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Doing better than they guy you were sacked for now “unrealistic expectations”.
Earlsdon_Skyblue1
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That would be 80-90% of the fan base. Perhaps you haven't realised that you are in the overwhelming minority?
Not many people wanted a new manager, but if you're going to sack the one that has been here for 7.5 years with several trips to Wembley and two promotions, the person that is going to replace them needs to be something special. Especially if you are doing it early enough for the old manager not to have the chance to turn it around - of which it was showing signs of life of.
I know you are trying really hard to run around this forum and have a pop at anyone who wanted to keep Robins, mainly because you've overdone it on the 'Robins out' shit for a while, but it is pretty boring.
Darth Robins
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31 games to make up the 8 point gap to the play-offs? Surely there's no
Ring Of Steel
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I’d say playoffs justifies the sacking.
Grendel
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With respect fans who actually attend matches should be the overall judge for the rest of the season.
If Rooney is sacked would top 6 be the expectation.
Ring Of Steel
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It was only a matter of time before the ‘Robins Out’ side started to immediately downplay any expectations for the new manager. If you don’t think that playoffs need to be the expectation then not much more to say.
as for Wayne Rooney, one of the more entertaining Grendel deflections
Ring Of Steel
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I forgot to ask- what is your stance? What is your expectation for the new manager?
Sky Blue Harry H
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Bare minimum for me is avoid relegation. How a lot think the bare minimum for a new manager is play offs. based on what has gone on so far (and with our top striker maybe out for a while) is crazy to me. I'm wondering if people have considered what 'bare minimum' means, before voting.
Grendel
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The only wins we’ve had this season is when Wright was on his game.
We’ve lost to absolute dross at home.
If Wright is out for a few weeks we are in trouble - play offs without him as a bare minimum is just embarrassing
Ring Of Steel
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and your answer is?
I mean you wanted this, you’ve been demanding it, surely you had some kind of expectation as to what would happen?
torchomatic
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There's a lot of goal post shifting here, isnt there? "Feverish Robins loyalists". Haha. I thought we were all naturally loyal to our manager and players?
Not sure why some are struggling with this. We are underperforming, King has pulled the plug. If the new guy isn't going to improve on what he thought Robins would have achieved this season then really what is the point in sacking the incumbent, who is pretty much universally loved by the fan base?
No one will mind the pain and upheaval of this if we get into the play offs, or just miss out after having a decent season. No one.
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bigfatronssba
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We got rid of a manger who for the past 3 seasons has had us in the play off mix.
Any new manager that can't do that is a step backwards
Grendel
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I think with robins still in charge we’d have been in severe trouble so mid table this season will be an achievement in the same way when robins took over from thorn
Jamesimus
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I didn’t want Robins out and I’m willing to give the manager lowered expectations initially
It’s just being pragmatic. The situation has changed so I’m changing with it.
Ring Of Steel
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so you want someone who will do worse than Robins has done, and someone who can take us to about where Robins already had us the day he was sacked.
Grendel
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I think if he’d stayed there would be a severe risk of relegation
Ring Of Steel
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i think that’s clearly ridiculous, but that’s your view
torchomatic
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I didn’t want Robins out and I’m willing to give the manager lowered expectations initially
It’s just being pragmatic. The situation has changed so I’m changing with it.
Bizarre. Don't get that
Matt smith
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Absolutely correct
if wright is out for a prolonged period you’d have to take survival
we are a one man team going forward
skybluecam
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Doing better than Robins would be finishing 16th
Ring Of Steel
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seems fair
Ring Of Steel
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Doing better than Robins would be finishing 16th
could you attempt to move the goalposts any further? We finished 9th last season, we are only in November.
Matt smith
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Who’s going to score any goals for us to win games now?Doing better than Robins would be finishing 16th
16th would be a good season
Darth Robins
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Funny, I could have sworn we'd changed the entire club structure explicitly to avoid being dependent on one man.
Ring Of Steel
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this is where we will start to see the double standards start to ooze out.
Matt smith
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If haji plays well we play well
if he doesn’t play or doesn’t play well we don’t
it’s pretty simple
play off talk is embarrassing when we’re one point off the bottom 3
Ring Of Steel
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Nor me.
For what it’s worth I think we will improve- a lot- I just think that it would have happened under Robins anyway, just as it has done every other season. To now be saying that we’re ok with avoiding relegation, it’s pretty cringeworthy.