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chiefdave

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Diet is much more significant than exercise.
sorry to drag this back up but for BSB, or anyone else who was involved in the debate, there's a good doc on BBC 2 tonight about this subject.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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So tonight I was in the company of people who said that inflation was high because of ‘all the money we spend on translators for those fucking Muslims and golliwogs’.

I can’t remember a time when overt racists have felt so emboldened. If you challenge it you’re called woke, if you stay silent the racism goes unchallenged. I chose to be called woke.
 

shmmeee

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So tonight I was in the company of people who said that inflation was high because of ‘all the money we spend on translators for those fucking Muslims and golliwogs’.

I can’t remember a time when overt racists have felt so emboldened. If you challenge it you’re called woke, if you stay silent the racism goes unchallenged. I chose to be called woke.

They genuinely believe this shit. They think we’re broke cos we spend it on DEI and translators not cos we have a metric fuck ton of pensioners.

The takeover of right wing meme pages from proper news is having some wild effects. Look at the state of some in this thread. Just ten years ago they’d have been quietly ignored as they rant in the corner of the pub.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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They genuinely believe this shit. They think we’re broke cos we spend it on DEI and translators not cos we have a metric fuck ton of pensioners.

The takeover of right wing meme pages from proper news is having some wild effects. Look at the state of some in this thread. Just ten years ago they’d have been quietly ignored as they rant in the corner of the pub.
DEI was also part of this guy’s rant along with the need to fire 60,000 civil servants. He assumed he was in company who all agreed with him, which to be fair he almost was
 

shmmeee

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DEI was also part of this guy’s rant along with the need to fire 60,000 civil servants. He assumed he was in company who all agreed with him, which to be fair he almost was

It’s just American social media brain worms.

Look at Musk promising to cut a trillion dollars of spending by sacking a few staff and cancelling the odd research project. Just fundamentally unserious but eaten up by those with brain rot on Twitter.

I still think Brexit being so shit has put a bit of a bulwark against mental ideas taking hold from the internet, but we’re still on the same track.
 

MalcSB

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Starmer 25 November 2024

Speaking to ITV, Sir Keir said: "Look, I remind myself that very many people didn't vote Labour at the last election.

"I'm not surprised that many of them want a rerun. That isn't how our system works."

Starmer 5 July 2024

Sir Keir Starmer has promised to build a "government of service" after becoming the UK's first Labour prime minister since 2010.

Speaking outside 10 Downing Street after his party's landslide election win, he pledged to restore trust in politics and “navigate away to calmer waters”.

And appealing directly to voters who did not back his party, he vowed to put “country first" and govern “unburdened by doctrine”.

Not taken him long to show that those who didn’t vote Labour are of no real concern to him, despite his slippery lies back in July.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Starmer 25 November 2024

Speaking to ITV, Sir Keir said: "Look, I remind myself that very many people didn't vote Labour at the last election.

"I'm not surprised that many of them want a rerun. That isn't how our system works."

Starmer 5 July 2024

Sir Keir Starmer has promised to build a "government of service" after becoming the UK's first Labour prime minister since 2010.

Speaking outside 10 Downing Street after his party's landslide election win, he pledged to restore trust in politics and “navigate away to calmer waters”.

And appealing directly to voters who did not back his party, he vowed to put “country first" and govern “unburdened by doctrine”.

Not taken him long to show that those who didn’t vote Labour are of no real concern to him, despite his slippery lies back in July.
The arsehole Tory governments of yore didn’t give a shit about those who didn’t vote for them either. The difference is this Labour government appears to give a shit about the mythical floating Daily Mail reader and nobody else
 

MalcSB

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The arsehole Tory governments of yore didn’t give a shit about those who didn’t vote for them either. The difference is this Labour government appears to give a shit about the mythical floating Daily Mail reader and nobody else
He has said one thing and is doing something quite different, having set himself out to be morally and politically superior to his predecessors. He is now demonstrating very early on that it was bollocks and that he is a duplicitous snake.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He has said one thing and is doing something quite different, having set himself out to be morally and politically superior to his predecessors. He is now demonstrating very early on that it was bollocks and that he is a duplicitous snake.
From where I’m standing he isn’t doing anything meaningful whatsoever. Tinker around the edges and pave the way for Farage ‘29
 

shmmeee

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Employment Rights Bill - not fit for purpose


Reading that I’m surprised at both the claims and the fact the government couldn’t present sufficient evidence to counter them.

No evidence of an imbalance between workers and employers? No evidence of businesses firing people in the first two years unreasonably? You can disagree about whether these things are ideal but
Starmer 25 November 2024

Speaking to ITV, Sir Keir said: "Look, I remind myself that very many people didn't vote Labour at the last election.

"I'm not surprised that many of them want a rerun. That isn't how our system works."

Starmer 5 July 2024

Sir Keir Starmer has promised to build a "government of service" after becoming the UK's first Labour prime minister since 2010.

Speaking outside 10 Downing Street after his party's landslide election win, he pledged to restore trust in politics and “navigate away to calmer waters”.

And appealing directly to voters who did not back his party, he vowed to put “country first" and govern “unburdened by doctrine”.

Not taken him long to show that those who didn’t vote Labour are of no real concern to him, despite his slippery lies back in July.

You think taking people who didn’t vote for you seriously is listening to a faction of them asking for a new government after five minutes?

You used to be a serious poster.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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You think taking people who didn’t vote for you seriously is listening to a faction of them asking for a new government after five minutes?
It is right to not take that request seriously, but it should be ‘iceberg right ahead’ for Starmer. He isn’t using his mandate to do anything that will make a significant difference to people.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Sure it wasn't long ago that Sweden was being presented on this thread as a country about to implode as the result of out of control immigration
Would be very funny if EU countries crack down on immigration and Brexit Britain doesn’t.





The damage immigration has done to Sweden is staggering. To see them now actually trying to clear it up demonstrates what a mess they got themselves into.

Next time you go to Stockholm, step outside of Gamla Stan and go an have a real walk around. Biskopsgården in Gothenburg (about a kilometre from where I used to live) is another place more representative on what living in a city there is like now. It's third word.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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The damage immigration has done to Sweden is staggering. To see them now actually trying to clear it up demonstrates what a mess they got themselves into.

Next time you go to Stockholm, step outside of Gamla Stan and go an have a real walk around. Biskopsgården in Gothenburg (about a kilometre from where I used to live) is another place more representative on what living in a city there is like now. It's third word.
Would be quite the money spinner, receive £25k for emigrating back out, come back again, rinse and repeat
 

MalcSB

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Reading that I’m surprised at both the claims and the fact the government couldn’t present sufficient evidence to counter them.

No evidence of an imbalance between workers and employers? No evidence of businesses firing people in the first two years unreasonably? You can disagree about whether these things are ideal but


You think taking people who didn’t vote for you seriously is listening to a faction of them asking for a new government after five minutes?

You used to be a serious poster.
Me? Serious?

Just like when you used to defend the council back in Wasps days. (IIRC).

Do you think the RPC‘s view that the bill is not fit for purpose is meaningless? That the claims have arisen and not been countered by government evidence is surely indicative of a lack of the competence which was expected by many posters here.
 
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SIR ERNIE

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The damage immigration has done to Sweden is staggering. To see them now actually trying to clear it up demonstrates what a mess they got themselves into.

Next time you go to Stockholm, step outside of Gamla Stan and go an have a real walk around. Biskopsgården in Gothenburg (about a kilometre from where I used to live) is another place more representative on what living in a city there is like now. It's third word.
Ive been going to Gothenburg on business at least once a year for about 14 years. The decline is obvious. Talk to people who live there and they'll tell you that their beautiful country and culture has been destroyed.
 

MalcSB

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From where I’m standing he isn’t doing anything meaningful whatsoever. Tinker around the edges and pave the way for Farage ‘29
He certainly isn’t behaving in a manner morally or politically superior to the previous government, he does look very nice in his freebie suits and specs whilst he is piling on the carbon as he jets around the world though.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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So tonight I was in the company of people who said that inflation was high because of ‘all the money we spend on translators for those fucking Muslims and golliwogs’.

I can’t remember a time when overt racists have felt so emboldened. If you challenge it you’re called woke, if you stay silent the racism goes unchallenged. I chose to be called woke.
You’re so right
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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He certainly isn’t behaving in a manner morally or politically superior to the previous government, he does look very nice in his freebie suits and specs whilst he is piling on the carbon as he jets around the world though.
Wife and I have given up on them doing anything to help during their one term in power. Might well not bother voting at all next time, governments at best do not help and at worst make things actively worse.
 

nicksar

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Ive been going to Gothenburg on business at least once a year for about 14 years. The decline is obvious. Talk to people who live there and they'll tell you that their beautiful country and culture has been destroyed.
My eldest Step-Son is the Project manager for a Swiss company,he covers the UK and Scandinavia,goes to Gothenburg every couple of months.
His company wanted him (and his family) to be based there,he refused because it's a dangerous place these days.
 

Marty

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Would be quite the money spinner, receive £25k for emigrating back out, come back again, rinse and repeat

Not sure why they need to offer them money, if governments don't want them there any more then just get them sent home, all criminals should automatically be deported, no matter how low level the crime or risks they face back home.
 

chiefdave

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Reading that I’m surprised at both the claims and the fact the government couldn’t present sufficient evidence to counter them.

No evidence of an imbalance between workers and employers? No evidence of businesses firing people in the first two years unreasonably? You can disagree about whether these things are ideal but
They can't have looked very hard. I could give them examples of both of those just from the company I currently work at!
 

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