Liam Kitching (4 Viewers)

RegTheDonk

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Get the wish for a settled side, stop chopping and changing, but we still look dodgy at the back. An honest conversation with a new boss and a chance to start afresh with a new attitude would show maturity on both sides. Give him a run out.
 

stevefloyd

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To be fair when I watched Kitching play for Barnsley, I think it was his last game, he gave a pen away and didn't look interested can't remember if he got sent off, whereas Styles looked very good so obviously we get the lesser player .....possibly
 

shmmeee

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Nah sorry, Lati is horse shit.

If this is your take we can just shoot down literally any opinion of a player on here with 'the manager doesn't agree.' Sounds boring but go for it.

You say that yet he keeps getting picked and your favourite never does. People on here judge a CB by whether they look like they’d win a fight.
 

TomRad85

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You say that yet he keeps getting picked and your favourite never does. People on here judge a CB by whether they look like they’d win a fight.
Lol no, i judge him on the fact he's fucking hopeless.
 

shmmeee

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Lol no, i judge him on the fact he's fucking hopeless.

And yet still better than Kitching.

Point is Kitching Bidwell and Collins get this reputation on here based on nothing but the fact they look hard. Despite not being very good at their job. Then the others who are in ahead of them get dogs abuse for the crime of keeping a favourite out.
 

pusbccfc

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If you look back to December - Feb last year when we only lost one game, Kitching and Thomas started in a flat 4 with MVE and Bidwell either side.

Back to basics.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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He’s not getting in. Kitching is shite. Get over it.
You can literally count Binks and Lati’s clean sheets on one hand in the games they’ve played in 30-40 games.

I can accept the role tactics play in this stat, you look at goals like WBA’s 2nd and that’s a piece of horrific defending from Lati.
 

TomRad85

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And yet still better than Kitching.

Point is Kitching Bidwell and Collins get this reputation on here based on nothing but the fact they look hard. Despite not being very good at their job. Then the others who are in ahead of them get dogs abuse for the crime of keeping a favourite out.
Kitching, Collins and Bidwell are hardly forum favourites are they ffs. Open your eyes.

Kitching is better than Lati, he's not great but the only time we've looked defensively sound in the last year and a half is with him and Thomas at CB. That's a fact, not opinion. I'd buy a new CB but its what we have atm, you can thank Robins.
Collins should be out of goal and Dovin in, most people agree with that.
Bidwell isn't really a favourite, he's a better defender than your favourite Dasilva but i'd be upgrading on both of them ASAP.
 

shmmeee

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Kitching, Collins and Bidwell are hardly forum favourites are they ffs. Open your eyes.

Kitching is better than Lati, he's not great but the only time we've looked defensively sound in the last year and a half is with him and Thomas at CB. That's a fact, not opinion. I'd buy a new CB but its what we have atm, you can thank Robins.
Collins should be out of goal and Dovin in, most people agree with that.
Bidwell isn't really a favourite, he's a better defender than your favourite Dasilva but i'd be upgrading on both of them ASAP.

Bidwell is a huge favourite. People think cos he’s cos a skinhead he can defend and demand him every time he’s not playing.

We looked defensively sound when we had a defensive coach. That’s down to far more than a single player.
 

TomRad85

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Bidwell is a huge favourite. People think cos he’s cos a skinhead he can defend and demand him every time he’s not playing.

We looked defensively sound when we had a defensive coach. That’s down to far more than a single player.
I'd say the players that were playing played more of a part than the ones on the bench but you do you i suppose.
 

shmmeee

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I'd say the players that were playing played more of a part than the ones on the bench but you do you i suppose.

The thing with Lati is he’s played for play off teams consistently, plays for his country and came through an elite academy. If he’s as bad as you claim, what are you seeing that successive pro managers and coaches aren’t.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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We also had coaches who can set a defence up
Thomas aside, Kitching still has the most clean sheets of our defenders.

If we had a striker on the bench who had more goals than our starters, it would be strange to not start them. In fact, the reverse is what we do with Bassette…
 

TomRad85

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The thing with Lati is he’s played for play off teams consistently, plays for his country and came through an elite academy. If he’s as bad as you claim, what are you seeing that successive pro managers and coaches aren’t.
Kasey Palmer also came through an elite academy and plays for the footballing powerhouse that is Jamaica...
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Think on Lati as much as this will horrify the forum, think would be better as a DM dropping back to support the CBs to allow the two 8s to get higher up the pitch.

Although if I was a manager I’d be getting to the point of being sacked if I put Lati on for sheaf 🤣
 

TomRad85

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Anyway i see Latibeaudiere is your strange hill to die on today so i'll leave it, its boring. I'm sure he'll be out of the team soon enough.
 

shmmeee

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Thomas aside, Kitching still has the most clean sheets of our defenders.

If we had a striker on the bench who had more goals than our starters, it would be strange to not start them. In fact, the reverse is what we do with Bassette…

Ill give you a minute to think about why goals scored and clean sheets are not comparable stats.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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The thing with Lati is he’s played for play off teams consistently, plays for his country and came through an elite academy. If he’s as bad as you claim, what are you seeing that successive pro managers and coaches aren’t.
He actually hasn’t, he played 8 games that season Swansea got in the playoffs. The season after, his break out season, Swansea finished lower than us conceding 68 goals and 64 the season after (2022/23) before joining us.

In fact, he hasn’t played a lot of CB in a back 4 outside of playing for us.
 

wingy

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True but Jesus we are so nice on the pitch. If he thinks so highly of himself, go and prove it.

He was good with Thomas last year, so it’s not that he doesn’t have it on him
Last run out his fitness was lousy AFAIR he looked like an old cogger anbling back,I certainly hope he's been working on it !
 

TomRad85

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He actually hasn’t, he played 8 games that season Swansea got in the playoffs. The season after, his break out season, Swansea finished lower than us conceding 68 goals and 64 the season after (2022/23) before joining us.

In fact, he hasn’t played a lot of CB in a back 4 outside of playing for us.
Apart from that though...
 

SBT

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The one thing I will say about Kitching, he’s getting better and better every week. At least on here he is.
 

mmttww

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Kitching is a prick of a bloke...

tbf I can believe this. Lost the playoff final in my first season on FM24, before we've kicked a ball the next season, he causes a mini-mutiny against me by raging for £33k a week and having a pissy fit when I told him to f*ck off. All the proof I need.
 

TomRad85

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The one thing I will say about Kitching, he’s getting better and better every week. At least on here he is.
The Joel effect. The effect of watching Lati and thinking fuck me anyone would be better than this shithouse.
 

Sky Blue Goblin

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Ill give you a minute to think about why goals scored and clean sheets are not comparable stats.
Agree on this. Thought to have a look at Latis this year stats and Kitchings last year considering game time for them both.

Looks on this basis that Kitching is better overall but happy to let you judge as everyone will want different things from CBs.

Kitching

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Lati

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