Sheaf (15 Viewers)

[Bugsy]

Abit fickle isn't it. Smash Hull at the weekend most will be creaming of top 6 again....PUSB

 

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[Major Tom]

Sheaf was sloppy yday. But Eccles was the worst midfielder so not sure u can really drop sheaf?

Sheaf is frustrating and maybe we need to accept he's never going to be an in the box scoring midfielder we need currently ,especially as he can't shoot... but it needs to be him and Torp starting.

 

[Bertola]

Shrinking violet last night, dangling a leg for every "tackle", he may have prodded the ball, but WBA just picked it back up.

Same with Eccles, and his pathetic effort when Basette flicked him in. With the risk of sounding like @Nick he should've smashed everything, the ball, the keeper and himself into the net

 

[stupot07]

Of course everything clicking together is the sign of an effective coaching setup.

So what you're saying is this

Aug 2023 - ineffective coaching set up
Sep 2023 - ineffective coaching set up
Oct 2023 - ineffective coaching set up
Nov 2023 (first half) - ineffective coaching set up
Nov 2023 (second half) - effective coaching set up
Dec 2023 - effective coaching set up
Jan 2024 - effective coaching set up
Feb 2024 - effective coaching set up
Mar 2024 - effective coaching set up
Apr 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
May 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Summer
Aug 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Sep 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Oct 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Nov 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Dec 2024 - ineffective coaching set up

Funnily enough, it pretty much mirrors O'Hares return from injury and then drop off in form.

 

[robbiethemole]

The much anticipated boost and stiffening of midfield from Sheaf’s return from injury never happened did it, and he s under pressure and getting pelters but is it really all his fault?
My big worry is loads on here keep saying the same for Wright, ‘ we’ll be better when he comes back’ but again it’s to much to expect him to lift the team single-handedly.

 

[eyesee]

The much anticipated boost and stiffening of midfield from Sheaf’s return from injury never happened did it, and he s under pressure and getting pelters but is it really all his fault?
My big worry is loads on here keep saying the same for Wright, ‘ we’ll be better when he comes back’ but again it’s to much to expect him to lift the team single-handedly.

wright makes things happen. even during the worst games, he will generate a chance or 2.
i'm not saying he will transform us single-handedly, but we do need his spark.

 

[Sick Boy]

Funnily enough, it pretty much mirrors O'Hares return from injury and then drop off in form.

Ahh yes, another player deemed not good enough for us who's now playing for a better team.

 

[shmmeee]

So what you're saying is this

Aug 2023 - ineffective coaching set up
Sep 2023 - ineffective coaching set up
Oct 2023 - ineffective coaching set up
Nov 2023 (first half) - ineffective coaching set up
Nov 2023 (second half) - effective coaching set up
Dec 2023 - effective coaching set up
Jan 2024 - effective coaching set up
Feb 2024 - effective coaching set up
Mar 2024 - effective coaching set up
Apr 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
May 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Summer
Aug 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Sep 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Oct 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Nov 2024 - ineffective coaching set up
Dec 2024 - ineffective coaching set up

Funnily enough, it pretty much mirrors O'Hares return from injury and then drop off in form.

If that’s your hypothesis to when we clicked sure. The coaching setup ended in March BTW.

 

[no_loyalty]

I hope Sheaf can recapture his form soon, as he doesn’t look like half the player we know and love.

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

I hope Sheaf can recapture his form soon, as he doesn’t look like half the player we know and love.

He must still be carrying an injury. Same with MvE.

 

[torchomatic]

He's bang average.

 

[ccfc922]

Hamer masked Sheaf limitations, we need support for him. His footballing IQ along with a few of our current squad is very low.

 

[SeshMouseSkyBlue]

Hamer masked Sheaf limitations, we need support for him. His footballing IQ along with a few of our current squad is very low.

Seems like Eccles progress has come to a halt this season, so the over reliance on Sheaf so far prob isn’t helping him or us as a team, especially if what’s being said that he’s playing through injury too.

 

[ccfc1234]

Some posts on this thread are quite a way off the mark. Sheaf while not playing his best in the last few games is a top quility player in this division. Think he will improve as the season goes on as well.

 

[Ccfcisparks]

I would rest him next game

 

[skyblueelephant76]

I would rest him next game

There's no midweek game, no-one needs resting in the next game

 

[Shannerz]

Hamer masked Sheaf limitations.

Sheaf was brilliant last year; Hamer did nothing for him then.

 

[Shannerz]

Seems like Eccles progress has come to a halt this season.

Up to a couple of games ago, Eccles had been our best player.

 

[SBAndy]

Some bonkers takes on this page. Granted, Sheaf hasn’t been playing particularly well this season but the idea that he’s bang average or that Hamer masked his limitations is utter shite. He’s bang out of form, yes, but he’s well above average.

 

[SeshMouseSkyBlue]

Up to a couple of games ago, Eccles had been our best player.

So maybe it’s not a halt in progression, maybe it’s burnout! 1 thing for sure though he’s defo not playing like he was in the last 2 seasons! I think Eccles in the past few years has been a really good player and eager for him to do well, this season seems different! Should have brought a midfielder we all knew we needed! Halve the work halve the burden

 

[Boicey]

Sheafs main plus is he can calm our play by putting his foot on the ball and passing it 10 yards sideways or backwards usually.
He doesn't shield our defence very well, which is a priority, because he is so slow and not very aggressive.
Tbh I'm not sure calming our play is what we want right now. Our tempo is so slow and ponderous already.

 

[rexo87]

Bar a couple of poor 5 yard passes I thought he was pretty good yesterday

 

[KenilworthSkyBlue]

Bar a couple of poor 5 yard passes I thought he was pretty good yesterday

He was OK. He still seems to be playing at 70% though and regularly looks half a yard off it with pretty much everything he does.

A rest is definitely needed.

 

[David O'Day]

he's clearly still no 100% right

 

[MusicDating]

he's clearly still no 100% right

He's definitely been rushed back.

I actually thought he did ok yesterday. Felt we looked more balanced with him sitting and letting Torp/Rudoni get forward.

 

[shmmeee]

Sheafs main plus is he can calm our play by putting his foot on the ball and passing it 10 yards sideways or backwards usually.
He doesn't shield our defence very well, which is a priority, because he is so slow and not very aggressive.
Tbh I'm not sure calming our play is what we want right now. Our tempo is so slow and ponderous already.

He’s been statistically one of the best defensive midfielders in the division for coming on four years. “Pass it sideways” FFS.

 

[Evo1883]

Feel like his role has changed slightly under frank and maybe that's giving the illusion he's not involved , I can't be sure but that's what it feels like

He's basically staying in his holding role far more ? I'm sure a heat map will call my bluff

 

[fernandopartridge]

Some rubbish talked about him. Still a good player even if he's not firing on all cylinders.

 

[shmmeee]

Feel like his role has changed slightly under frank and maybe that's giving the illusion he's not involved , I can't be sure but that's what it feels like

He’s sitting more as the third defender almost instead of a fullback tucking in like his first game. I never liked Sheaf post Haner as a more box to box midfielder TBH. I think defensively and his passing ability are his strengths. Much rather him
Bringing it out than Lats or Thomas.

 

[Evo1883]

He’s sitting more as the third defender almost instead of a fullback tucking in like his first game. I never liked Sheaf post Haner as a more box to box midfielder TBH. I think defensively and his passing ability are his strengths. Much rather him
Bringing it out than Lats or Thomas.

I'm going to watch sheaf more closely in the coming weeks .

 

[TomRad85]

Feel like his role has changed slightly under frank and maybe that's giving the illusion he's not involved , I can't be sure but that's what it feels like

He's basically staying in his holding role far more ? I'm sure a heat map will call my bluff

No I agree with you, he did seem to be holding that position.

Lampard seems to prefer him to Eccles and I quite like the sound of a Sheaf, Torp, Rudoni midfield.

 

[Evo1883]

No I agree with you, he did seem to be holding that position.

Lampard seems to prefer him to Eccles and I quite like the sound of a Sheaf, Torp, Rudoni midfield.

I think sheaf is a better holding midfielder and Eccles is falling victim to us playing 2 more progressive midfielders infront of him

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Feel like his role has changed slightly under frank and maybe that's giving the illusion he's not involved , I can't be sure but that's what it feels like

He's basically staying in his holding role far more ? I'm sure a heat map will call my bluff

Hate to use fm terms but trying to recreate the tactic. Think he’s been told to play as a “ half back” to collect the balls and help the back two by forming almost a three man back three in possession

 

[TomRad85]

I think sheaf is a better holding midfielder and Eccles is falling victim to us playing 2 more progressive midfielders infront of him

Exactly that. I like it though, I always found Sheaf and Eccles together pretty dull tbh.
Harsh on Eccles who's had a decent season but I understand why Lampard would go with Sheaf. We'll still see plenty of Eccles I'm sure.

 

[Sky Blue Goblin]

Definitely holding back the most out of the three