Keepers going down feigning injury (12 Viewers)
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duffer
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I'm for the players having to stand in the circle whilst the injured player is treated, it's the easiest and quickest solution to the coaching issue.
In the meantime, until the rules are changed, I'd be telling my team to go and stand right next to their coaching area, on the pitch, en masse.
There's no rule that says only their players can stand by their coach - the only rules I'm aware of are that players can't leave the pitch without permission, and coaches must remain within the coaching area. The ref and fourth official had no business getting involved with Thomas - he can stand where he likes on the pitch, anyone trying to move him by force should've been cautioned.
The other thing I'd do, right now, is get a fuck off big speaker by our coaching area, and get it cranked up to full blast when they're doing their illicit time out so that they can't hear each other.
Again, the game's stopped, I can't see that the ref could do anything about it. There's more than one way to deal with this load of cheating bollocks...
In the meantime, until the rules are changed, I'd be telling my team to go and stand right next to their coaching area, on the pitch, en masse.
There's no rule that says only their players can stand by their coach - the only rules I'm aware of are that players can't leave the pitch without permission, and coaches must remain within the coaching area. The ref and fourth official had no business getting involved with Thomas - he can stand where he likes on the pitch, anyone trying to move him by force should've been cautioned.
The other thing I'd do, right now, is get a fuck off big speaker by our coaching area, and get it cranked up to full blast when they're doing their illicit time out so that they can't hear each other.
Again, the game's stopped, I can't see that the ref could do anything about it. There's more than one way to deal with this load of cheating bollocks...
Captain Dart
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The fact it keeps happening to City shows the coaches must be doing something right. 
MalcSB
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And who will get penalised, the invaders and the club!
MalcSB
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Get Norman to do it he will react badly to being pushed away and he seems to be quite good at winding opposition players up to assault him. He is also lightweight enough to fall as if poleaxed by a mild shove without it appearing to be overt simulation.
Sick Boy
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We’ve done it ourselves as well.The fact it keeps happening to City shows the coaches must be doing something right.
SBAndy
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No way of proving that. Terrible idea for a solution.
shmmeee
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Its not a court of law!
Mucca Mad Boys
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I thought that was for the keeper holding on to the ball for 6+ seconds?
Nuskyblue
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8+ seconds is what is being discussed now, no idea why they don't enforce the law that is already in place...
The referees just need to grow a pair, there is no requirement for them to stop play unless it's a head injury. Why are they letting the players dictate the stoppages in the game?
Mucca Mad Boys
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100% - I really don’t understand why referees can’t see through the blatant play acting. In rugby, the game playing on just makes sense. There’s no incentive for players to not stay on the floor in football because the referee will often stop an opposition attack for treatment.
The amount of time wasted in football matches is becoming a problem. We don’t pay £30 a ticket or whatever it is to watch players receive treatment for 10-20m of the match. The other day v Cardiff, about a third of stoppage time was their player receiving treatment.
Covkid1968#
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Mucca Mad Boys
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They do that in rugby and there are some v suspect decisions made, there are occasions where a player can have a nasty head collision and somehow pass the concussion protocols but be subbed off shortly anyway because they’re clearly not right.
I’d to see the clock be stopped and normalise teams playing on for injuries. A bit of common sense here, if someone has broke a leg or something serious, then it’s good sportsmanship to stop the game.
Personally, I’d like to see the clock stopped whenever the ball goes dead too but you know the governing bodies would find a way to fuck it up.
Terry Gibson's perm
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Six seconds for the keeper to piss about is to long they need less time not more, also from when he holds it so stop this stupid dive forward to waste time.
skybluegod
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This is incorrect. It is any injury that the referee deems 'serious'. The common misconception comes from that when referees go through training (or at least used to) we are told that all head injuries should be treated as serious. So all head injuries should lead to a stoppage but play should also stop for everything else refs deem serious.
Referees don't want to be the one that if they don't stop play there is actually something seriously medically wrong and they played on for another minute.
But something more definitely needs to be done in general with it, but don't think there are easy solutions.
Otis
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How would that work?
Keeper: It's really painful there (points at his foot)
Assessor: No, It's not. I don't believe you.
Or just say it's your back. GP's can do nothing about it, so neither will an assessor.
Anyway, I have the best idea. When a keeper goes down, attend to him, give him a quick sponge and then make him wear a neck brace for the rest of the game
Otis
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Nuskyblue
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Agreed.
I think it's more of an issue in England than perhaps it is elsewhere. I recall the refereeing at the last few world cups to be far stronger in this regard, they were far more likely to wave play on.
Nuskyblue
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Fair enough, I didn't realise that but it's all semantics isn't it? We can all see that these stoppages aren't for serious injuries can't we?
These are player's deciding to take it upon themselves to sit down and start waving their arms to get the game stopped.
ccfcricoh
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the refs could stop it, but we have the worst standard of refereeing for years, so cant rely on them to do anything about it.
All the Hull coaches should be booked for leaving technical area or sent off if they enter the pitch.
Players that leave the pitch should have to wait to be told they can re-enter by the referee.
The most annoying part on Saturday was the keeper and us were all ready to kick off, all the Hull players still over on touch line, should be made to restart or book the lot for timewasting!
wont happen though so stick with Thomas' tactics
All the Hull coaches should be booked for leaving technical area or sent off if they enter the pitch.
Players that leave the pitch should have to wait to be told they can re-enter by the referee.
The most annoying part on Saturday was the keeper and us were all ready to kick off, all the Hull players still over on touch line, should be made to restart or book the lot for timewasting!
wont happen though so stick with Thomas' tactics
Potbellypig
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I like that. The obvious issue is leaving it to the referees discretion. I would go one further and say if the keeper needs medical attention then unless it's an obvious injury like a break, blood or he has to come off, then the next phase of play is a corner.
But as I've just typed that, the keeper is going to go down for time wasting and team talks when it's a corner isn't he. Hmmm
Keepers are going down when they haven't been involved in any incidents. It's fine for the ref to stop play and check on the players when they've been involved in some sort of collision, but there's no reason for a goalkeeper to go down with no players around them. Just play on, I'm sure they'll be quickly back on their feet once opposition has the ball in their half. The games starting to turn into American sport, soon they'll start playing music during the stoppages, have cheerleaders run onto the pitch, and show ads on the big screen. I just want to watch the fuckin match.
chiefdave
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At that point the ref should have just started the game. If they're not ready its their own fault
RegTheDonk
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Subsitite keeper/player comes on immediately and the game restarts. Substitute keeper/player must remain in goal for at least 5 minutes to ensure origainal keeper is fit to continue. Can swap to original keeper any time after the 5 minutes. Minimum of 2 x 30 seconds added time.
mmttww
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or this.
Maybe enforce the sub keeper to come on for a minimum period of time. If the keeper is genuinely injured, then it can classed as a substitution.
Although the manager could still use this to break up play and communicate tactics, they are less likely to risk disrupting the team.
Although the manager could still use this to break up play and communicate tactics, they are less likely to risk disrupting the team.
Nick
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Wright got booked but he was actually injured and was out for a few weeks.