Israel - Palestinian Conflict (5 Viewers)
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Harry Krishner
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All of the territories you mention were retained after the adjoing Arab nations attacked Israel with the intention of wiping it off the map. What are they supposed to do? Hand them back and say don't worry about it?
Does international law have anything to say about the obliteration of Jewish and other populations in Islamic countries?
rondog1973
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So then, you admit the objective of the Israeli govt is to ethnically cleanse the occupied territories of Palestinians as it couldn't trust the natives of those lands not to attack with neighbouring state backing?
You conveniently overlook too the Nakba whereby tens of thousands of Palestinians were forcibly removed or in some case massacred by Israeli death squads upon creation of the state. A state the Zionists launched terrorist attacks against the governing British to accelerate their departure.
Clearly Netanyahu and his fellow supremacist nut jobs in the cabinet don't want peace given today's news. Israel has a right to defend itself etc...
MalcSB
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I don’t know, but isnt that immaterial. Israeli settlements in those territories are illegal and presumably a bit of a red rag to a bull. Why not just leave the area and de-escalate. Or is it that Israel wants lebensraum and has learned extensively from the past. The ruthlessness is incredible but not without historical precedence.
MalcSB
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Israel's legitimacy was built on the Holocaust. Now its own genocide is destroying it
The Zionist project was only able to garner the support of most Jews due to the Holocaust. But the self-defence argument no longer works during its own genocide in Gaza
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Harry Krishner
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I would say it's highly material.
Do you honestly think that if the Israelis were to vacate the said areas, that the Arabs would just call it a day? I don't - it would give them encouragement to go for the jugular. Look at the manner in which they are celebrating their current "victory".
Your view ascribes a sense of fair play to the Arabs, which is a quality I find to be greatly diminished or completely lacking around MENA. As numerous commentators have observed, only strength is respected there - one reason why governments throughout the area are composed of strong men rather than representatives of any democratic majority.
Just wondering - have any of those with Arab leanings on here actually been to Israel? Or any of the neighbouring countries?
Harry Krishner
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I don't think so.
Merely the observation that people around the world tend to differ in many respects regarding philosophy, values etc.
Would you disagree?
The notion of what constitutes "fair play" can vary greatly from place to place.
Merely the observation that people around the world tend to differ in many respects regarding philosophy, values etc.
Would you disagree?
The notion of what constitutes "fair play" can vary greatly from place to place.
You’re spouting the kind of generalised ethnic nonsense that belongs in a Victorian colonial handbook. Fuck off.
Harry Krishner
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Oh dear..
How old are you - seriously?
Is it OK to use an I phone during class?
How old are you - seriously?
Is it OK to use an I phone during class?
shmmeee
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Yes. Weird racist beliefs are indeed a sign of maturity. I remember I finally became a man once I said Jews have big noses. My Dad poured me a whiskey and said “welcome to manhood son”
I was born in the 20th century, when “the notion of what constitutes fair play” evolved beyond making nonsensical generalisations about the inner morality of 400 million people based on their race.