Bristol city player ratings (22 Viewers)

Londonccfcfan

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Best: Dovin and Kitching. Begs the obvious 'if only' question? Kitchings long passes down the left were particularly effective

Astonished by the negativity of the match thread during the 1st half. I really enjoyed it. It was either a bit frantic or more direct, take your pick But great fun. I was just so glad that either through choice or because it was forced on us by the Bristol high press, we were far more direct.

Nobody had a stinker. Simms caused them all sorts of problems and should have scored. You could say the same for Rudoni. Lati at least doesn't give the ball away like Thomas.

Negatives: Still not sure why we bought Binks. And sorry JDS, but even in a 3-5-2 formation and with all your lovely footwork, you are still pants at defending. That Lampard had to tell Binks and Kitching to cover says it all. And the neat footwork did not lead to anything. Bring back Bidwell for Blackburn Frank, please...I beg of you.
Re Kitching..he busted a gut to get back to apply pressure on Wells when he was clean through...loved that attitude. He played a big hand in Dovin saving that.

Thought Kitching was Excellent.
 

Jonny

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Best: Dovin and Kitching. Begs the obvious 'if only' question? Kitchings long passes down the left were particularly effective

Astonished by the negativity of the match thread during the 1st half. I really enjoyed it. It was either a bit frantic or more direct, take your pick But great fun. I was just so glad that either through choice or because it was forced on us by the Bristol high press, we were far more direct.

Nobody had a stinker. Simms caused them all sorts of problems and should have scored. You could say the same for Rudoni. Lati at least doesn't give the ball away like Thomas.

Negatives: Still not sure why we bought Binks. And sorry JDS, but even in a 3-5-2 formation and with all your lovely footwork, you are still pants at defending. That Lampard had to tell Binks and Kitching to cover says it all. And the neat footwork did not lead to anything. Bring back Bidwell for Blackburn Frank, please...I beg of you.
For what it's worth, either sided CB has to move across to cover when a WB moves up. That's literally how the formation works. It's not Dasilva exclusive, Milan is the exact same.

It all comes down to how you mainly set up, if we were setting up as a 5-3-2 (we're not), then yes, your point would hold weight, but as it's a 3-5-2 and the WBs are naturally higher, wider CBs covering is required for it to work.
 

CCFCSteve

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When he is on his game, I genuinely just love Ellis Simms. When he has confidence and he's running at people he's such as beast.

His passing has improved massively too. Plays such a big role in helping us build an attack.

Some giving Simms a 6…it’s almost comical. Ran them ragged second half, won a loads in the air, held the ball up and also put one on a plate for rudoni.

Also agree with Gibbo Torp looks like a different player since Lampard came in, getting stuck in far more and lasting full games. Frustratingly one of his main strengths, shooting, seems to have dropped off a bit as he’s snatching at chances. Progressing well though
 

The watchmaker

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I think the point is that this season Robins chopped and changed from
Match to match which doesn’t help build players confidence or understanding on the pitch.

I think Dovin has been excellent since he was reintroduced into the team, I do think Frank prefers a more experienced and vocal keeper and his comments after each match make me think Dovin wouldn’t need to do too much wrong for Wilson to get another chance. I hope I’m wrong as I think Dovin is showing real potential and for that to blossom he needs to feel confident.
This is just BS. I don't know why people feel the need to make this nonsense up. Playing 11/14 league games including the last 5 under Robins didn't give Dovin the stability he needed but being 'number 2' to 'number 3' Collins was a massive boost to his confidence? Wtf?

The reality is with both him and EMC is that they have both settled in and found a bit of confidence at about the same point of the year as Wright/Simms etc did last year. Not happened for Bassette and BTA yet. Maybe it will/maybe it won't but people need to calm down and have a little patience.
 

stupot07

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The 3 so called central midfielders should move across or shift across as a 3. So either way the left hand side one is almost by the touch.
It's not their job to be on the touch line, their job is to dominate the middle of the park. Rudoni was obviously given license to get forward more, and play off the left at times, which is exactly what he's been doing when he's played as a conventional 10. If anything one of the strikers should be coming out wide for the channel ball or for MVE to play off.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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This is just BS. I don't know why people feel the need to make this nonsense up. Playing 11/14 league games including the last 5 under Robins didn't give Dovin the stability he needed but being 'number 2' to 'number 3' Collins was a massive boost to his confidence? Wtf?

The reality is with both him and EMC is that they have both settled in and found a bit of confidence at about the same point of the year as Wright/Simms etc did last year. Not happened for Bassette and BTA yet. Maybe it will/maybe it won't but people need to calm down and have a little patience.

Bassette is far too raw to be starting consistently in the Championship week in week out. He's fine off the bench to try and make a nuisance of himself late on in games but he's too erratic to warrant a holding spot. In an ideal world I'd actually like to see Bassette loaned out next season.

I can see the theory behind bringing a player like BTA. He's a very Robins-type player. But he's not good enough really, and I don't think he actually fits to how FL wants us to play. His lack of technical ability is a pretty glaring issue.

He'll be on a pretty comfortable contract and it's whether funds can be put to better use. Given we need support in both midfield and defence I think that probably answers itself.
 

Captain Dart

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Bassette is far too raw to be starting consistently in the Championship week in week out. He's fine off the bench to try and make a nuisance of himself late on in games but he's too erratic to warrant a holding spot. In an ideal world I'd actually like to see Bassette loaned out next season.

I can see the theory behind bringing a player like BTA. He's a very Robins-type player. But he's not good enough really, and I don't think he actually fits to how FL wants us to play. His lack of technical ability is a pretty glaring issue.

He'll be on a pretty comfortable contract and it's whether funds can be put to better use. Given we need support in both midfield and defence I think that probably answers itself.
I agree Bassette shouldn't be a starter but the idea he goes out on loan is bonkers, he is at the stage in his career where he can suddenly improve by leaps and bounds.

BTA's issue is that he's a rubbish decision maker, too many times he needs to make the pass quickly instead he holds on to the ball and loses possession. He offers a very high workrate and against less confident defenders that's an asset.
 

KenilworthSkyBlue

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I agree Bassette shouldn't be a starter but the idea he goes out on loan is bonkers, he is at the stage in his career where he can suddenly improve by leaps and bounds.

BTA's issue is that he's a rubbish decision maker, too many times he needs to make the pass quickly instead he holds on to the ball and loses possession. He offers a very high workrate and against less confident defenders that's an asset.

I think it entirely depends on how the summer window pans out really and who moves on / who is brought in. His development will hinge on him getting a good run of games rather than making brief cameos here or there.

Agree re. BTA's decision making. Relying on him coming up against 'less confident defenders' isn't much of a case for keeping him though. To warrant a place in the side he needs to show up regardless who the opposition is.
 

The watchmaker

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Bassette is far too raw to be starting consistently in the Championship week in week out. He's fine off the bench to try and make a nuisance of himself late on in games but he's too erratic to warrant a holding spot. In an ideal world I'd actually like to see Bassette loaned out next season.

I can see the theory behind bringing a player like BTA. He's a very Robins-type player. But he's not good enough really, and I don't think he actually fits to how FL wants us to play. His lack of technical ability is a pretty glaring issue.

He'll be on a pretty comfortable contract and it's whether funds can be put to better use. Given we need support in both midfield and defence I think that probably answers itself.
Don't really disagree with any of that. I actually think BTA + Simms is a decent strike force for this league. I get that we are not aiming for 'decent' but BTA is probably 3rd choice if everyone is fit and firing. Given the balance of the squad I am totally on board with cashing in on him and bring in a midfielder but with current injuries he makes the first 11 so we might want to leave any sale til late in the window.
 

stupot07

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I can't see Bassette being sent on loan next season, he's played in the Belgium pro-league, he's played in Ligue 2, and already got a senior international cap. If there was a time to send him out on loan, it would be this January with the view of him coming back into the first team squad fighting for a starting berth next season.
 

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