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Nick

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Any ideas why the deep state was laundering these killers lads?




Probably something to do with Muslims I’m sure.

Why is it only you going on about deep state?

What are the time frames between these articles and the crime? I heard about the first one on a podcast and I can tell you that's a good 30+ years ago.

I'm sure you can see the difference in an article 30 years after the crime, probably if there's a book out or something about it and what happened in this case.
 

wingy

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Do they?

Damn I missed seeing Harold Shipman doing keepups with his U7's team.
They do it all the time, build em up and then knock em down.🤬☹️ Not a serious comment!
Do you happen to know more of the father's background, Warlord for which side?
 

Ian1779

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The point is that the flames were fanned with petrol.

Locals already knew who he was and were posting about him and things were getting deleted. People were getting the "He was a choir boy" thing thrown at them when people who knew him were saying he was calling for Genocides at school and was kicked out for bringing a knife into school and going back to attack somebody with a hockey stick. At this point, the police would have known full well he was producing ricin in his house ffs. He was known to police and they would have known all of this within minutes of the attack.

I get it, did they want to avoid community tensions? If anything they stirred them up much more.
You getting riled up about a picture spread around by news outlets and social media isn’t exactly evidence of some deep state conspiracy.

What exactly did you expect was going to be different if we’s seen a slightly more sinister photo early doors?

Remember a small group of idiots demonstrated their outrage at the heinous crimes by doing over a Greggs.

Have you ever considered that the entire structure that should be able to pick up and intervene is understaffed, underfunded and under resourced? And that with all of these in place there is a possibility that some of these things could be addressed and stopped?

There are failings here for sure in this whole situation, but we go through this reflection process allowing the same failings to go on and on without doing anything differently, same with Baby P and the failing of social
workers etc.
 

Sky Blue Pete

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How wasn't it like that? What have I said in that that is wrong?
The crime was unspeakably evil within hours there were rumours of it being an immigrant Muslim
The police confirmed his name and where he was from his age and then that he was from Rwandan parents
Then I think it’s countering narrative out
You saying the press were reporting what the government were peddling is where we misalign
 

Captain Dart

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Deliberately misleading or the only public photo of him? (think it was from a newspaper article or something)
Only public photo, really?
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Nick

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The crime was unspeakably evil within hours there were rumours of it being an immigrant Muslim
The police confirmed his name and where he was from his age and then that he was from Rwandan parents
Then I think it’s countering narrative out
You saying the press were reporting what the government were peddling is where we misalign

Can you quote me saying "the press were reporting what the government were peddling"?
 

Nick

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You getting riled up about a picture spread around by news outlets and social media isn’t exactly evidence of some deep state conspiracy.

What exactly did you expect was going to be different if we’s seen a slightly more sinister photo early doors?

Remember a small group of idiots demonstrated their outrage at the heinous crimes by doing over a Greggs.

Have you ever considered that the entire structure that should be able to pick up and intervene is understaffed, underfunded and under resourced? And that with all of these in place there is a possibility that some of these things could be addressed and stopped?

There are failings here for sure in this whole situation, but we go through this reflection process allowing the same failings to go on and on without doing anything differently, same with Baby P and the failing of social
workers etc.

It's hardly riled up and I can't remember saying anything about a deep state conspiracy, yeah there are people mentioning his dad and Starmer and all that but it's nothing I'd claim or mention as fact.

People were angry when it happened, can you really not see how it did anything but calm down any unrest by pushing him as a little choirboy after 3 kids had just been killed and many more attacked? It was painting his innocence from the start and the police knew from day one how sinister things really were. They had been called out to him multiple times in the week leading up to it hadn't they?

The entire structure seemingly had no issues picking up people for posting stuff online when needed? Again, this is what pisses people off. (This isn't saying that people shouldn't have punished, it's saying that the "funding cuts, no prison spaces" stuff doesn't seem to matter too much when it suits).
 

Sky Blue Pete

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It's hardly riled up and I can't remember saying anything about a deep state conspiracy, yeah there are people mentioning his dad and Starmer and all that but it's nothing I'd claim or mention as fact.

People were angry when it happened, can you really not see how it did anything but calm down any unrest by pushing him as a little choirboy after 3 kids had just been killed and many more attacked? It was painting his innocence from the start and the police knew from day one how sinister things really were. They had been called out to him multiple times in the week leading up to it hadn't they?

The entire structure seemingly had no issues picking up people for posting stuff online when needed? Again, this is what pisses people off. (This isn't saying that people shouldn't have punished, it's saying that the "funding cuts, no prison spaces" stuff doesn't seem to matter too much when it suits).
Talk us through the rationale for painting him as an angel? Other than it makes a good tabloid story what else??
Police security services government??
 

Nick

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Talk us through the rationale for painting him as an angel? Other than it makes a good tabloid story what else??
Police security services government??

Because they wanted it to be as far from an Islamic attack as possible in the hope people wouldn't think it was and would pipe down?

Are you really that naive?

Starmer has just said this:

"Britain will rightly demand answers, and we will leave no stone unturned in that pursuit."

Do you believe that?
 

Sky Blue Pete

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Because they wanted it to be as far from an Islamic attack as possible in the hope people wouldn't think it was and would pipe down?

Are you really that naive?

Starmer has just said this:

"Britain will rightly demand answers, and we will leave no stone unturned in that pursuit."

Do you believe that?
You really believe that it could be hidden!
Wtaf
How?
 

Grendel

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I'm really not sure what you are moaning about.

Are you upset he wasn't photographed holding a knife or something?

I assume there are other photos of him is the point. There is one video of him coming out the Tardis of course
 

Sky Blue Pete

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I assume there are other photos of him is the point. There is one video of him coming out the Tardis of course
Why do you assume that?
Are you and Nick in agreement that the police and givenrmnet were hoping no one would notice he was black or maybe that there had been a murder at all ??
 

SBT

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I assume the new photos of this scumbag won’t be printed anywhere tomorrow? We already have the choirboy photo after all, no need to upset the approved narrative.
 

Grendel

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Why do you assume that?
Are you and Nick in agreement that the police and givenrmnet were hoping no one would notice he was black or maybe that there had been a murder at all ??

I have now idea what you are ranting on about. It’s rather like the picture of a smiling family man recently that was a woman beating gangster a policeman heroically dealt with
 

Grendel

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Ring Of Steel

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They also know he was obsessed with Hitler, Ghengis Khan and the IRA- but sure, focus solely on the Muslim angle.

He is a seriously disturbed psychopath who has a fascination with violence and weapons.
 

Grendel

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A horrific knife attack from a mentally ill kid obsessed with violence. Not every bad thing is brown people under the bed Grendel.

It seems we are now having a public inquiry - guess it’s a bit more important than what happened in Rochdale
 

shmmeee

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They also know he was obsessed with Hitler, Ghengis Khan and the IRA- but sure, focus solely on the Muslim angle.

He is a seriously disturbed psychopath who has a fascination with violence and weapons.

No RoS the great detective duo Grendel and Nick know far more than the prosecutors of the case. They can smell a secret Muslim from 1000 yards. It was clearly the well worn terrorist tactic of leaving no message about your intentions whatsoever. That’s how you bring attention to your cause: by not talking about it at all.

4D chess mate. You wouldn’t understand the sneaky Muslims.
 

Grendel

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They also know he was obsessed with Hitler, Ghengis Khan and the IRA- but sure, focus solely on the Muslim angle.

He is a seriously disturbed psychopath who has a fascination with violence and weapons.

It’s really odd you have no interest in politics but….
 

Grendel

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What does this murder have to do with politics?

You have mentioned several political institutions in your post. You don’t know much about these things do you?
 

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