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[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Demonstrate to me how the US President isn’t acting like a fascist or dictator and I’ll gladly concede

There's a difference between detesting Trump and his government, and letting it take over your life to the point you cannot articulate or critique anything else without having a meltdown. Same with Russia and Ukraine. I don't think anyone on here has time for Russia or Putin whatsoever, but making any kind of negative comment about Ukraine sees toys get thrown out of the pram. That doesn't take away from the fact Russia started it and are essentially 'the bad guys'.

There are some really childish takes on this thread. However, most of the people that are looking at this realistically know that the only way to end the war is with some kind of concessions. That doesn't make anyone a Putin or Trump lover. That is just the reality of the bleak situation.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

There's a difference between detesting Trump and his government, and letting it take over your life to the point you cannot articulate or critique anything else without having a meltdown. Same with Russia and Ukraine. I don't think anyone on here has time for Russia or Putin whatsoever, but making any kind of negative comment about Ukraine sees toys get thrown out of the pram. That doesn't take away from the fact Russia started it and are essentially 'the bad guys'.

There are some really childish takes on this thread. However, most of the people that are looking at this realistically know that the only way to end the war is with some kind of concessions. That doesn't make anyone a Putin or Trump lover. That is just the reality of the bleak situation.

Didn’t you call for Putin’s assassination when the conflict started?

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Just sounds suspiciously like you're making things up, the same as when you call everybody racist for no reason.

???. I'll called out a few people yes and apologised to anyone who I inadvertently called out in error.... Rest assured I won't be doing that again as appreciate it was a bit full on. However I will continue to call out all blatant forms of discrimination though for people who deserve it on here.... only a handful, and Ill do it as politely as possible. Peace and love x.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

7:33 am and your already at it ranting away on a football forum, sad fuck

So funny.
On more important issues...do you have a view on....
Was it a nazi salute?
Who is more at fault for war Zelenskyy or Putin?
Will Trump go for 3rd term?

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Didn’t you call for Putin’s assassination when the conflict started?

Yes, I would love for him to get assassinated. He deserves it. Realistically is it going to happen, or end the war? No.

I am not sure what that has to do with daily meltdowns about Trump, which you are one of the ring leaders of. They are childish as they are dramatic, and lack both perspective and reality most of the time. It is getting really boring coming onto this thread to see interactions which look as if they came off Reddit. If Trump is bothering you that much, turn off the tv and log off from the internet for a bit.

 

[PVA]

Yes, I would love for him to get assassinated. He deserves it. Realistically is it going to happen, or end the war? No.

I am not sure what that has to do with daily meltdowns about Trump, which you are one of the ring leaders of. They are childish as they are dramatic, and lack both perspective and reality most of the time. It is getting really boring coming onto this thread to see interactions which look as if they came off Reddit. If Trump is bothering you that much, turn off the tv and log off from the internet for a bit.

You don't think that the President of the US siding with a hostile war criminal is not a fairly dramatic development? Or not based on reality?

 

[Ian1779]

You don't think that the President of the US siding with a hostile war criminal is not a fairly dramatic development? Or not based on reality?

I mean the last 2 Presidents of the US have been siding with the genocidal war mongerer Netanyahu - can’t really have been that much of a shock can it?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yes, I would love for him to get assassinated. He deserves it. Realistically is it going to happen, or end the war? No.

I am not sure what that has to do with daily meltdowns about Trump, which you are one of the ring leaders of. They are childish as they are dramatic, and lack both perspective and reality most of the time. It is getting really boring coming onto this thread to see interactions which look as if they came off Reddit. If Trump is bothering you that much, turn off the tv and log off from the internet for a bit.

The US turning into a dictatorship isn’t trivial.

 

[SkyBlueCharlie9]

Yes, I would love for him to get assassinated. He deserves it. Realistically is it going to happen, or end the war? No.

I am not sure what that has to do with daily meltdowns about Trump, which you are one of the ring leaders of. They are childish as they are dramatic, and lack both perspective and reality most of the time. It is getting really boring coming onto this thread to see interactions which look as if they came off Reddit. If Trump is bothering you that much, turn off the tv and log off from the internet for a bit.

Did Bannon just give a Nazi salute?
Do you think Trump will change US law to allow him to run for a third term?

 

[PVA]

I mean the last 2 Presidents of the US have been siding with the genocidal war mongerer Netanyahu - can’t really have been that much of a shock can it?

Ok I’ll rephrase - You don't think that the President of the US siding with a long term adversary and hostile war criminal over long term allies in Europe is not a fairly dramatic development?

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Did Bannon just give a Nazi salute?
Do you think Trump will change US law to allow him to run for a third term?

Yes
Yes or set up a family dynasty

 

[Sick Boy]

Just counting down the days until they try to suspend the two terms rule. That'll be fun to watch play out.

I’d be surprised if they don’t at least try.

 

[Sick Boy]

Ok I’ll rephrase - You don't think that the President of the US siding with a long term adversary and hostile war criminal over long term allies in Europe is not a fairly dramatic development?

Are some war criminals more acceptable then?

 

[PVA]

Are some war criminals more acceptable then?

Not sure how you got that from what I had written, but clearly war criminals are not 'acceptable' in any form.

I knew that would get a like from Grendel. Like clockwork.

 

[Nick]

Are some war criminals more acceptable then?

Probably the same as people who are corrupt, depends if they are goodie war criminals or baddie war criminals.

You can't say they are all cunts....

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Are some war criminals more acceptable then?

Netanyahu and Putin seem equally reprehensible in the modern era.

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

I’d be surprised if they don’t at least try.

I can Elon being the next one to run.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

I can Elon being the next one to run.

Elon is essentially the de facto president already.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Are some war criminals more acceptable then?

When they’re on your side normally makes things ok

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Probably the same as people who are corrupt, depends if they are goodie war criminals or baddie war criminals.

You can't say they are all cunts....

Partly because then one would do the easy answer of either they’re all cunts or they’re all doing their best

 

[rob9872]

When they’re on your side normally makes things ok

Tony Blair likes this post.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Tony Blair likes this post.

Indeed. His selection as ‘peace envoy to the Middle East’ was elite trolling.

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Tony Blair likes this post.

I should say I was joking

 

[shmmeee]

I mean the last 2 Presidents of the US have been siding with the genocidal war mongerer Netanyahu - can’t really have been that much of a shock can it?

Like it or not western support for Israel is a bit different from western support for Russia.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

The US turning into a dictatorship isn’t trivial.

Even if it wasn't, which is up for debate, your posts are seriously unhinged on the matter, and it seems to have genuinely taken over your entire life.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

Did Bannon just give a Nazi salute?
Do you think Trump will change US law to allow him to run for a third term?

Probably, but I suspect it was another sick attempt at trolling. Likewise with Trump and talk of the law being changed.

I don't have time for any of it, but some of you lot start crying when Trump so much as sneezes, so I'm not really surprised they keep doing it.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

You don't think that the President of the US siding with a hostile war criminal is not a fairly dramatic development? Or not based on reality?

He's certainly had a pop at Zelensky, but I don't think it is anything like what you think it is.

Your posts on the war come across as someone studying on BBC Bitesize to be quite honest.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Even if it wasn't, which is up for debate, your posts are seriously unhinged on the matter, and it seems to have genuinely taken over your entire life.

It’s not in the top 10 of my priorities. But this is a critical juncture in world history whether you recognise it as one or not: it’s a genuinely big deal what’s going on.

 

[Flying Fokker]

He's 100% going to try it.

I think he'll try and be president until the day he dies, which looking at him will probably be before the two terms are up anyway.

Won’t he try and get musk in line for presidency as well? After all, they are mostly from different countries.

 

[PVA]

He's certainly had a pop at Zelensky, but I don't think it is anything like what you think it is.

What do you think it is then?

He's siding with the aggressor and making Zelensky out to be the bad guy that started the war and Ukraine who has to pay all the reparations. It's absolutely ins.

 

[Earlsdon_Skyblue1]

What do you think it is then?

He's siding with the aggressor and making Zelensky out to be the bad guy that started the war and Ukraine who has to pay all the reparations. It's absolutely ins.

He's said some stupid shit, like inferring that Ukraine started it, yes. I suspect this is a combination of having a personal pop at Zelensky, whilst simultaneously softening Putin up to gain some leverage - the key point that many people seem to be missing. He isn't sending tanks into Kyiv, or helping Russia conduct bombing raids on Lviv.

 

[Mucca Mad Boys]

So your conclusion is that Ukraine has been invaded and blown to smithereens not because Putin wanted a land grab, but because of Joe Biden and Europe?

What a dreadful excuse of a take.

How did you get to that conclusion? Of course it’s a land grab because Putin and many Russians deny Ukraine is an independent entity and the breakup of Belarus and Ukraine was considered a disaster for ethnic Russians.

Onto the point about the war starting in the first place, Biden publicly saying Russia could ‘get away with a small scale operation’. That would have factored into Russian calculations as would have Europe’s dependence on Russian energy. We ignored the signs.

My take is that without a sudden collapse of the Putin regime or NATO intervention in the war, the war is not winnable for Ukraine. There isn’t the political will to do what is actually required to ‘win’ the war. Therefore, there needs to a palatable peace that even Zelensky was open too before the US election.

Of course, Ukraine could carry on fighting if they choose to reject a peace deal brokered in bad faith. After all, the Afghan war did help precipitate the downfall of the USSR and that was a war fought along unconventional lines.

Just counting down the days until they try to suspend the two terms rule. That'll be fun to watch play out.

To do that, you’d need to change the constitution which requires a supermajority (66%) in congress… this is just fear mongering.

 

[PVA]

He's said some stupid shit, like inferring that Ukraine started it, yes. I suspect this is a combination of having a personal pop at Zelensky, whilst simultaneously softening Putin up to gain some leverage - the key point that many people seem to be missing. He isn't sending tanks into Kyiv, or helping Russia conduct bombing raids on Lviv.

No he's not doing that, of course. But he is handing parts of a sovereign nation to a hostile invader with absolutely no penalty or concessions, in fact the opposite - he's making the invaded nation pay for it.

 

[mmttww]

To that, you’d need to change the constitution which requires a supermajority (66%) in congress… this is just fear mongering.

You're talking as if Trump and co. respect the constitution and due process when their actions suggest the opposite. It's just a case of finding a pretence for it.

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

You're talking as if Trump and co. respect the constitution and due process when their actions suggest the opposite. It's just a case of finding a pretence for it.

The Supreme Court declared the president to be above the law and the man himself threatens any judge who rules against him. If he simply refuses to leave office who will make him leave? Nobody.