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shmmeee

shmmeee

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Only a dictator if from the dictat region of France I see.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Mucca Mad Boys said:
Go and compare what you’ve described to Mussolini and Hitler’s parties (or even Jean Le Pen’s NF) in the past and if you can’t tell the difference, I’m happy for us to knock the convo on its head and agree to disagree.

In fact, you don’t have to because Trump has served one term already and it was not fascist in character.

This ‘analysis’ reminds me of the deranged right wingers calling Obama communist because he wants to ‘redistribute wealth’ amongst other things. Again, it’s a distortion of language.

Imagine a US president saying ‘America First’, what a fascist sentiment.
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Imagine a US president:

1. Inciting an armed insurrection to prevent the transfer of power because he lost an election

2. Declaring it was his 'right' to interfere in said election and to pressure state officials into 'finding' the missing votes he needed.

3. Carrying out legal action against journalists and media organisations for reporting critical stories of him.

4. Threatening to fire judges who hear lawsuits filed against him.

5. Allowing the world's richest man to loot the Treasury while breaking the law and overriding Congress' power of the purse.

6. Admitting to carrying out sexual assault.

The man should be in fucking prison, not the White House.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Elon is essentially the de facto president already.
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It's almost funny that a man who only decided to get into politics because of his outrage that a man (supposedly) from Africa was voted to be in charge of the US is now a puppet for a man actually from Africa to be in charge of the US without having been voted in.
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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It sure looked like it to a lot of people. Bannon throwing one doesn't help your argument. If it wasn't a Nazi salute, what was it? Genuine question. He could've just, you know, waved!
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He did it twice and knew full well what he was doing. The salute anyway is the least of concerns compared to what he's doing as he helps himself to the Treasury while carrying out mass sackings of the civil service.
 
Sky_Blue_Dreamer

Sky_Blue_Dreamer

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Mucca Mad Boys said:
I’m sorry, but this is nonsense. Either he is a dictator and announces he will suspend the next elections or he democratically amends the constitution to remove the 2 term limit (only introduced after WW2). As mentioned, the latter requires a congressional supermajority. He literally won’t be able to run for election without it as the courts will block him appearing on the ballot papers.
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He's only been in charge a month. Give him a chance! There has already been Republicans saying the two term limit should be abolished.

As for needing a supermajority, of course he will look for a way around it. Republicans control the House and the Senate. Trump has personally picked three of nine Supreme Court judges and by the end of the term could well have picked 5. A court that has already ruled that the President is effectively beyond the law. Plus the Republicans are looking to replace lots of judges in lower courts with Trump followers. Not to mention the purge on civil servants to be replaced by Trump supporters (if they are replaced at all). He's already going a long way to abolishing any oversight of the President. He's basically allowed someone not elected to have access to the information of pretty much all US departments and is pretty much saying that he can fire as many people as he wants on a whim. Do those sound like checks and balances to you?
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Sky_Blue_Dreamer said:
He's only been in charge a month. Give him a chance! There has already been Republicans saying the two term limit should be abolished.

As for needing a supermajority, of course he will look for a way around it. Republicans control the House and the Senate. Trump has personally picked three of nine Supreme Court judges and by the end of the term could well have picked 5. A court that has already ruled that the President is effectively beyond the law. Plus the Republicans are looking to replace lots of judges in lower courts with Trump followers. Not to mention the purge on civil servants to be replaced by Trump supporters (if they are replaced at all). He's already going a long way to abolishing any oversight of the President. He's basically allowed someone not elected to have access to the information of pretty much all US departments and is pretty much saying that he can fire as many people as he wants on a whim. Do those sound like checks and balances to you?
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Take Mike Pence's word for it

 
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PVA

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The orange one is after a Nobel peace prize it seems.

Waltz says that signing the minerals deal between Ukraine and the US was originally an idea proposed by Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

“Well, look, here’s the bottom line. President Zelensky is going to sign that deal, and you will see that in the very short term. And that is good for Ukraine. What better could you have for Ukraine than to be in an economic partnership with the United States?,” he asked.

He says that “by the end of this all, we are going to have the Nobel Peace Prize sitting next to the name of Donald J. Trump.”
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