Doug got it right (12 Viewers)

Cally Fedora

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Agreed. Grimes has been the icing on the cake. Things were obviously nicely freshened up before he arrived. Wright will be interesting as realistically for him to play either EMC or Simms have to drop out. If he’s fit Wright plays as our best attacker by a distance. Nice problem to have!
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Agreed. Grimes has been the icing on the cake. Things were obviously nicely freshened up before he arrived. Wright will be interesting as realistically for him to play either EMC or Simms have to drop out. If he’s fit Wright plays as our best attacker by a distance. Nice problem to have!

Why? Both players are better than Sakamoto in terms of goals and assists. I really don’t understand why he’s considered the shoe-in. He isn’t a game changer like Simms and EMC are.

My prediction is that Haji will have a go at RW but will operate as a second striker and EMC has 3 targets in the box; Simms, Wright and Rudoni.
 

torchomatic

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I noted a half hearted attempt to resurrect his song yesterday.
 

Cally Fedora

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Why? Both players are better than Sakamoto in terms of goals and assists. I really don’t understand why he’s considered the shoe-in. He isn’t a game changer like Simms and EMC are.

My prediction is that Haji will have a go at RW but will operate as a second striker and EMC has 3 targets in the box; Simms, Wright and Rudoni.
Would be a huge mistake. Play Wright on the right and you dilute your best forward.
 

Mucca Mad Boys

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Would be a huge mistake. Play Wright on the right and you dilute your best forward.

Haji hadn’t played much football as a LW before he came to us and played an equal amount at RW and LW, more or less.

Haji Wright’s role will be very different in Lampard’s set up compared to Robins. He’ll he expected to get in the box and operate as a second or third striker.

There were moments yesterday where the width of entire front 3 was narrower than the box. It’s set up for a front 3 of Wright, Simms and EMC. My personal view is that EMC will end up at RW because he has the skill set to get past players and get the ball in the box.
 

wingy

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Haji hadn’t played much football as a LW before he came to us and played an equal amount at RW and LW, more or less.

Haji Wright’s role will be very different in Lampard’s set up compared to Robins. He’ll he expected to get in the box and operate as a second or third striker.

There were moments yesterday where the width of entire front 3 was narrower than the box. It’s set up for a front 3 of Wright, Simms and EMC. My personal view is that EMC will end up at RW because he has the skill set to get past players and get the ball in the box.
The goal, I was surprised how much time and space EMC was allowed to get the cross in,any ideas, just a defensive error?
 

Lamps

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I can't believe people are still arguing over this.

A lot has changed since Robins left. The announcement of Lampard took ages. It could have gone either way. Things were turning toxic at our club. But it seems Lampard wanted to do things his way or not join us. You can't blame him because if he failed with us his record as manager would have looked poor.

Things changed when King took over. Robins title was changed from manager to coach. It wasn't just down to him on the players coming in or out. The older, experienced players left. We were left without leaders on the pitch. But we bought young players for good money that would have a good resale value.

Fast forward to Lampard taking over. His title is manager. He brought in his own coaches. Looks like he has the say on which players join us. Only two so far but they're 29 and 33. We paid between 3.5m and 4m for a 29 year old. We most probably won't get a penny back from him. But worth every penny. The value of the other players will go up especially if we get promoted.

The Lampard appointment was a very good one. Letting him do it his way even more important. I was worried about his appointment, especially how things could go if he couldn't turn things around. And it wasn't a certainty he could. But with the way our club was when Robins left there was no chance Robins would have been able to turn it around like Lampard has.

Lampard was never going to be able to get us to the level of Leeds this quickly. But now we're not far off being the second or 3rd best side in the Championship. Keep this run going and we could finish 4th. People laughed at the thought of us getting anywhere near the playoffs even as recently as the start of last month.

Yes Robins was brilliant for us especially with all the crap that went on. But Lampard is the man to take us to the next level.
 

Sick Boy

Super Moderator
I can't believe people are still arguing over this.

A lot has changed since Robins left. The announcement of Lampard took ages. It could have gone either way. Things were turning toxic at our club. But it seems Lampard wanted to do things his way or not join us. You can't blame him because if he failed with us his record as manager would have looked poor.

Things changed when King took over. Robins title was changed from manager to coach. It wasn't just down to him on the players coming in or out. The older, experienced players left. We were left without leaders on the pitch. But we bought young players for good money that would have a good resale value.

Fast forward to Lampard taking over. His title is manager. He brought in his own coaches. Looks like he has the say on which players join us. Only two so far but they're 29 and 33. We paid between 3.5m and 4m for a 29 year old. We most probably won't get a penny back from him. But worth every penny. The value of the other players will go up especially if we get promoted.

The Lampard appointment was a very good one. Letting him do it his way even more important. I was worried about his appointment, especially how things could go if he couldn't turn things around. And it wasn't a certainty he could. But with the way our club was when Robins left there was no chance Robins would have been able to turn it around like Lampard has.

Lampard was never going to be able to get us to the level of Leeds this quickly. But now we're not far off being the second or 3rd best side in the Championship. Keep this run going and we could finish 4th. People laughed at the thought of us getting anywhere near the playoffs even as recently as the start of last month.

Yes Robins was brilliant for us especially with all the crap that went on. But Lampard is the man to take us to the next level.
Lampard’s title is Head Coach?
 

Cally Fedora

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Haji hadn’t played much football as a LW before he came to us and played an equal amount at RW and LW, more or less.

Haji Wright’s role will be very different in Lampard’s set up compared to Robins. He’ll he expected to get in the box and operate as a second or third striker.

There were moments yesterday where the width of entire front 3 was narrower than the box. It’s set up for a front 3 of Wright, Simms and EMC. My personal view is that EMC will end up at RW because he has the skill set to get past players and get the ball in the box.
Possibly. In reality though Wright is always operating as a second striker. He didn’t float 20 goals in from the wide left last season. My point is our three best forwards are Wright, EMC and Simms. But I don’t think they should all play in the same team. It’s the lingering legacy of the unbalanced squad we have this season.
 

TomRad85

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Lampard has not had the chance to work with Wright and no one knows what he plans to do with him. What I do know is I don't think Lampard will be particularly keen to drop EMC.
I'm going to stick with my prediction from long ago that Wright will be tried on the right and see no obvious reason he can't be just as effective there.
 
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Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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There is of course the unintended consequence of Doug’s decision… in that he has secured Mark Robins legacy. If the call wasn’t made and left us to potentially fight relegation or worse… then the status of legend that is MR will have been significantly damaged. So a good decision for the club and ultimately good for Robins. Regardless of what he does at Stoke and beyond… his status and standing at our club will continue long after Doug and Lampard have departed.
‘He has secured MR’s legacy’ 😂

The c**t threw MR under the bus in an embarrassing fans forum. Mark Robins secured Mark Robin’s legacy.
 

skybluecam

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‘He has secured MR’s legacy’ 😂

The c**t threw MR under the bus in an embarrassing fans forum. Mark Robins secured Mark Robin’s legacy.
Doug was getting mountains of stick for the sacking with everyone assuming it just a knee jerk reaction to poor form. While the forum could have been handled better I think he was entitled to get his point across that there were multiple factors in the decision.
 

Gynnsthetonic

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Doug was getting mountains of stick for the sacking with everyone assuming it just a knee jerk reaction to poor form. While the forum could have been handled better I think he was entitled to get his point across that there were multiple factors in the decision.
Looking back the fans forum was probably a bad idea. It was done to early but fair play to him for doing it
 

Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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Doug was getting mountains of stick for the sacking with everyone assuming it just a knee jerk reaction to poor form. While the forum could have been handled better I think he was entitled to get his point across that there were multiple factors in the decision.

There was more to it than poor form I agree, but there was lies chucked in there and an attempt to portray that Robins could only survive with AV and his bibs and cones. Clearly MR was going through a tough time personally with bereavement too.

Lampard has started really well, credit to him. But we haven’t made the play offs or the play off final yet. Robins delivered a PO Final and a Semi Final of the FA Cup when asked for a cup run. I would wait until May to see where we finish before making a conclusion. We have got picked apart by teams with a bit of quality like Leeds and Ipswich and it’s quality teams we’ll need to beat in the big moments. The ‘deck’ we’ve got is still behind the 2023 PO Final team IMO.

Lampard is definitely heading in the right direction but let’s get there first.
 

Sick Boy

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There was more to it than poor form I agree, but there was lies chucked in there and an attempt to portray that Robins could only survive with AV and his bibs and cones. Clearly MR was going through a tough time personally with bereavement too.

Lampard has started really well, credit to him. But we haven’t made the play offs or the play off final yet. Robins delivered a PO Final and a Semi Final of the FA Cup when asked for a cup run. I would wait until May to see where we finish before making a conclusion. We have got picked apart by teams with a bit of quality like Leeds and Ipswich and it’s quality teams we’ll need to beat in the big moments. The ‘deck’ we’ve got is still behind the 2023 PO Final team IMO.

Lampard is definitely heading in the right direction but let’s get there first.
It's beyond all doubt at this point that it was absolutely the correct decision. The idea that Lampard will have failed if we don't make the play-offs this season is just madness.
 

Balli001

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There was more to it than poor form I agree, but there was lies chucked in there and an attempt to portray that Robins could only survive with AV and his bibs and cones. Clearly MR was going through a tough time personally with bereavement too.

Lampard has started really well, credit to him. But we haven’t made the play offs or the play off final yet. Robins delivered a PO Final and a Semi Final of the FA Cup when asked for a cup run. I would wait until May to see where we finish before making a conclusion. We have got picked apart by teams with a bit of quality like Leeds and Ipswich and it’s quality teams we’ll need to beat in the big moments. The ‘deck’ we’ve got is still behind the 2023 PO Final team IMO.

Lampard is definitely heading in the right direction but let’s get there first.
The overall squad is massively better than the play off final team. The difference is this team doesnt have Hamer and Gyokeres
 

Earlsdon-Loyal-Blue

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It's beyond all doubt at this point that it was absolutely the correct decision. The idea that Lampard will have failed if we don't make the play-offs this season is just madness.

So you’re waxing lyrical about someone that hasn’t achieved anything yet over someone that achieved multiple promotions and finals?

There’s a lot to be excited about but none of us know if Lampard can get us over the line when it matters, and that’s what I’m saying to hold caution about.
 

CovValleyBoy

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There was more to it than poor form I agree, but there was lies chucked in there and an attempt to portray that Robins could only survive with AV and his bibs and cones. Clearly MR was going through a tough time personally with bereavement too.

Lampard has started really well, credit to him. But we haven’t made the play offs or the play off final yet. Robins delivered a PO Final and a Semi Final of the FA Cup when asked for a cup run. I would wait until May to see where we finish before making a conclusion. We have got picked apart by teams with a bit of quality like Leeds and Ipswich and it’s quality teams we’ll need to beat in the big moments. The ‘deck’ we’ve got is still behind the 2023 PO Final team IMO.

Lampard is definitely heading in the right direction but let’s get there first.
Are you bringing your red & white scarf to the Stoke match ?
 

alexccfc99

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The overall squad is massively better than the play off final team. The difference is this team doesnt have Hamer and Gyokeres
Our bench at times that season was absolutely embarrasing

Think we played Burnley just after Xmas and the bench consisted of just six players, Simon Moore and Liam Kelly the only senior ones

If I remember the game correctly we should have got a result as well
 

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