Flying Fokker
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Philippe Clement: Rangers part with manager after loss to St Mirren
Rangers part company with manager Philippe Clement after 16 months in charge.
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David O'Day
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shame, they are skint so the next one will be equally bad
alexccfc99
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Who’s starting the Lampard to Rangers thread
alexccfc99
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David O'Day
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and? a venture capital fund is going to want them to operate at a profit, they lose 8 figure amounts a year so nomatter who owns them they need to cut costs
only way they get anywhere near celtic again is either celtic indifference or some throws serious money at them with no desire for any money back which is not the m.o. of venture capitalists
Gynnsthetonic
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You
Ccfcisparks
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New owners soon means they should be competitive again. interested to see who they appoint.
alexccfc99
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We’ll see
It’s a poisoned chalice for any manager however, they are so far behind Celtic the job is huge - But you are also working in an environment that demands instant success so it’s a catch 22
I think Gerrard will end up back there myself
alexccfc99
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I took the liberty of having a look at their financials after you posted this... Jesus they make for grim reading
You would think if any club had to learn their lessons the hard way about hemorrhaging money it would be Rangers
They are 5 years behind Celtic at a very minimum
rondog1973
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Been pictured at Celtic Park before. Wouldn't be popular on 2 fronts...Rooney
David O'Day
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Supported Everton and Celtic and is from an Irish Catholic family so as has been said he would be doubly unpopular
David O'Day
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the consistent 8 figure losses and basically spending every last dime on stopping celtic winning 10 in a row has done for them
it could be a lot more than 5 years behind as Celtic have started to look better in Europe and are now posting 8 figure profits
fernandopartridge
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It's mad that they've got a wage bill of around £62m for a squad that would probably be competitive in the Championship but no better than that/
Shannerz
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He's also a better manager than they'd deserve.
Brighton Sky Blue
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Currently beating Fenerbahce away. Really bizarre how shite they are in the league but turn it on in Europe
alexccfc99
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Mentality thing I reckon, cannot deal with the pressure of being expected to win every league match infront of 50,000 at Ibrox but in Europe when no one gives them a prayer they feel more comfortable
Brighton Sky Blue
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Despite what some might think I’d have both the OF in the English league system
alexccfc99
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Not for me, I see the way Celtic fans acted in Birmingham and Rangers in Manchester and I want to keep them as far away as possible, not worth the trouble they would bring
They can keep their backwards beliefs and songs about religion and the troubles the other side of Hadrian's Wall as far as I am concerned cause we have grown up and moved on a little bit down here
Shannerz
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It wouldn't actually be Celtic that would worry me. It would be the reaction of the'England-for-the-English' knuckle draggers and their 'no-surrendering' dribbling shite.
People haven't moved on as far as you think.
alexccfc99
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Both as bad as eachother
It's a complicated and difficult situation, I wear a poppy, but believe it would be distasteful and wouldn't go to Dublin or areas of Belfast and shout about how great our armed forces are
Just as I think going to Birmingham where victims families are still seeking justice for those responsible for the pub bombings and chanting about the IRA is also a no-no
Don't care for either of them, they are Scottish - no need for them to be in our leagues at the expense of two sides who would be denied of a promotion to shoe-horn them into the league
Brighton Sky Blue
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I hear these concerns, equally they are two clubs with big international profiles and huge fan bases pulling in 50,000 a week in a major city not all that far from the border. We’re fine to let a plethora of let’s be honest much smaller Welsh clubs compete in our system.
There are dickheads in all fan bases of big clubs.
alexccfc99
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I'll put it this way then
Imagine we finished 2nd and we were informed we aren't going to be promoted as Rangers and Celtic are joining the Premier League...
The Welsh clubs have been a part of the English system for years as there was no proper football structure in Wales at the time
Brighton Sky Blue
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You would simply expand the PL by two clubs and carry on business as normal otherwise. Nobody would need to be denied promotion.
alexccfc99
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Just don't see it ever happening and I won't be one bit fussed if it doesn't and if it did they should be working their way up from the bottom
Think the ship has sailed anyway, it would have happened in the mid 2000s if it ever was gonna happen
Brighton Sky Blue
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I agree it probably won’t happen, but the principle of a British league system within reason (like not all the way down the pyramid) is something I’d like to see happen.
alexccfc99
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It would also completely fuck Scottish Football, yes it would make it more competitive in terms of new sides getting a chance of winning the league and it would stabilise in time but Scottish Football needs the Old Firm
Them simply being in that division probably makes up for most of the television audience and removing them from the equation would be similar to when ITV digital collapsed down here, clubs have commited to spending on budgets including TV revenue which would probably 3/4 down in size with no Rangers or Celtic
alexccfc99
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Wouldn't be opposed to an all British cup however, the League Cup needs a refresh
But it seems a good idea on paper, but then in the early rounds would Exeter City (for example) really want to fork out for travel and accommodation for a poorly attended 1st round tie against St Johnstone? Probably not, they'd more than likely make a loss
Brighton Sky Blue
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You’d probably have to have it regional in the early stages.
Shannerz
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The Welsh clubs have been integrated in the English football pyramid for as long as they've existed, so it's not a fair comparison.
Shannerz
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So you're saying that not only should two clubs from a different country's league be accepted into English football, despite having no more affiliation to it than (for example) Dinamo Minsk or Santos, that they should also be fast-tracked to its highest division?
Even taking a neutral stance on Celtic and Rangers (and I admit I don't have that) I don't agree with that at all. If they wanted to join the English pyramid, they should start drafting their applications to the Northern Premier League ASAP. If in a hypothetical world they did join, then their place in the top division would have to be earnt via wins on the pitch.