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Evo1883

Evo1883

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Im somebody who has always seen peace as the only solution because I know that without backing Ukraine cannot win this war and I also know now that a european task force confronting russia and fighting on the ground and in the air would potentially cause much larger global problems .. but I'm so furious with how the Americans have treated this bloke my logical and rational thought process on this is starting to quiver a bit
 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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Great_Expectations said:
Even taking away the frankly quite shocking content and the things being said in that interview, Vance seems a smug little tosser.

He absolutely seems one of those full of self importance and a ‘do you know who I am types’ who, if he wasn’t in politics, would be a nobody.
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The only thing he speaks with excitement about is criticising women who don’t have children.
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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Great_Expectations said:
Even taking away the frankly quite shocking content and the things being said in that interview, Vance seems a smug little tosser.

He absolutely seems one of those full of self importance and a ‘do you know who I am types’ who, if he wasn’t in politics, would be a nobody.
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Not sure wasnt he a Marine
I just need to understand that there’s a legitimate argument that real men can behave like assholes day in day out and others respect them and are maybe inspired by them
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Otis said:
No. I won't be going. I don't mind him seeing the King.

And everyone should be a Trump hater anyway, surely.

Why would anyone want to support a rapist, racist, felon, who says he can just grab a woman by the pussy and that we should drink bleach to get rid of COVID and that he can just take Greenland by force if necessary etc.etc. etc.

The man is clearly deranged and has no moral compass.
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Whatever you think of Trump there has been more focus on ending this pointless war of death and destruction in the last 3 weeks than the previous 3 years
 
SIR ERNIE

SIR ERNIE

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Grendel said:
Whatever you think of Trump there has been more focus on ending this pointless war of death and destruction in the last 3 weeks than the previous 3 years
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It's a stark contrast to the actions of the Biden regime.
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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Grendel said:
Perhaps you should be wondering why no one before was bothered about finding a solution
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Hindsight is so wonderful
Foresight now there’s a thing
I have enough challenges of my own to spend any time wondering why no one was bothered about finding a solution before

Oh wait hold on everyone was trying to it was just that putin is a dictator who is also psychotic
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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Brighton Sky Blue said:
Where does threatening Canada, Mexico, Denmark and vowing to ‘take’ Gaza fit in with the championing of peace?
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Come on bsb no one else is bothering to talk to anyone it’s just trump and Vance with the ideas

I mean even forgetting Obama had already decided against a mineral deal as it wouldn’t be cost effective for the USA
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Sky Blue Pete said:
Hindsight is so wonderful
Foresight now there’s a thing
I have enough challenges of my own to spend any time wondering why no one was bothered about finding a solution before

Oh wait hold on everyone was trying to it was just that putin is a dictator who is also psychotic
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The war was not ending as no one wanted it to. No one in the US gives a fuck about Ukraine. Stop being naive.
 
Sky Blue Pete

Sky Blue Pete

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Grendel said:
The war was not ending as no one wanted it to. No one in the US gives a fuck about Ukraine. Stop being naive.
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Unlike you (although that’s a little bit unfair) but definitely unlikely Vance and trump many many millions of purple give a fuck about ukraine
 
Grendel

Grendel

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Sky Blue Pete said:
Unlike you (although that’s a little bit unfair) but definitely unlikely Vance and trump many many millions of purple give a fuck about ukraine
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Biden didn't, Obama didn't - if it was in some other continent no one would here either.
 
Nick

Nick

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Grendel said:
Biden didn't, Obama didn't - if it was in some other continent no one would here either.
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If it wasn't all over social media and the news getting people angry I'm sure they wouldn't either.

People saying they are more angry than they have ever been and furious with the way Zelensky was spoken to, think there needs to be a bit of a reality check with life.
 
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CCFCSteve

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The facts appear to be…

- Ukraine cannot continue to fight the war or even defend themselves properly, without significant U.S assistance
- Europes inaction over recent years to increase defence spending/capacity has left a reliance on U.S.
- The U.S. has no skin in the game really, this is on our doorstep, not theirs
- Trump is anti war
- The minerals deal was pretty much agreed and just needed signing - my understanding is this relates to future support not historical
- Zelensky should’ve gone with an interpreter - I heard someone on the radio who made a great point about it making sure there was no misunderstandings but more importantly it would’ve taken heat out of situation
- Trump and even more so, Vance’s, conduct in public in that way was totally unacceptable...however, we still need the US onside and to remain in NATO for at least the foreseeable future.

I still think a deal will be done. I just hope that at least some of trumps actions/words have been done to get Putin to the table and that any ‘deal’ doesn’t just hand over everything Putin wants.
 
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