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Sky Blue Pete

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That means so many fewer Norman Wisdom fans doesn't it.

Is that a good thing, or a bad thing?
It was a success story before the tories went with the Rwanda nonsense. Cost money to work with the Albanian government but reduced those coming in exponentially and lots went back

I wish we could have a grown up debate about this stuff
 

SBT

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It's mad that the automatic assumption is that Albanian = criminal.

Be careful if you ever visit Italy because hundreds of thousands of them live here and you probably won't be able to tell they're not Italian unless you speak Italian.

Be warned.
Tbf I imagine many posters in here are quite familiar with Albanian criminals.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Tbf I imagine many posters in here are quite familiar with Albanian criminals.
Evidently they will trust Starmer to make a deal with the provider of a suitable gulag to arbitrarily cart people off at the government’s discretion.

All in the name of ‘making a point to the troublemakers’ of course.
 

SBT

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Evidently they will trust Starmer to make a deal with the provider of a suitable gulag to arbitrarily cart people off at the government’s discretion.

All in the name of ‘making a point to the troublemakers’ of course.
We could have saved ourselves a lot of ‘Two Tier Keir’ grief last summer if instead of arresting and trying the suspected ringleaders of racist mob attacks, we’d just summarily deported them to a foreign prison and said they were Albanian gangsters instead.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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We could have saved ourselves a lot of ‘Two Tier Keir’ grief last summer if instead of arresting and trying the suspected ringleaders of racist mob attacks, we’d just summarily deported the asylum seekers to a foreign prison and said they were Albanian gangsters instead.
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PVA

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It's wild how if you defend a Uk government decision you are a 'grooming gang sympathiser' but leaping to the defence of a serial sex offender's fascistic behaviour is apparently perfectly acceptable.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Evidently they will trust Starmer to make a deal with the provider of a suitable gulag to arbitrarily cart people off at the government’s discretion.

All in the name of ‘making a point to the troublemakers’ of course.

In terms of making a point, this one is a pretty interesting case.

 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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It's mad that the automatic assumption is that Albanian = criminal.

Be careful if you ever visit Italy because hundreds of thousands of them live here and you probably won't be able to tell they're not Italian unless you speak Italian.

Be warned.

I don't think anyone has assumed all Albanians are criminals.

Albanians however, are massively overrepresented in the crime statistics had the highest conviction rate of all nationalities in England and Wales at 4,028 per 10,000 of the population between 2021-2023. This rate was 30 times the rate of British nationals.

It's a pretty common sense example to use here.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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In terms of making a point, this one is a pretty interesting case.

I have said before, I will defend the right of people to protest for causes I disagree with. Calling for people to be burned alive however, should probably come with some kind of punishment.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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It's wild how if you defend a Uk government decision you are a 'grooming gang sympathiser' but leaping to the defence of a serial sex offender's fascistic behaviour is apparently perfectly acceptable.

Right, because if people wet the bed about Trump and deportations, and it's pointed out that they are factually wrong, that means we're defending sex offender behaviour because of it. Totally the same thing of course.

I mean, is there anything else a bit less moronic you want to contribute?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Right, because if people wet the bed about Trump and deportations, and it's pointed out that they are factually wrong, that means we're defending sex offender behaviour because of it. Totally the same thing of course.

I mean, is there anything else a bit less moronic you want to contribute?
Well, they aren't factually wrong, to be clear.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Well, they aren't factually wrong, to be clear.

They are.

You said one particular gangsters wasn't a a gangster - despite the courts seeing sufficient evidence to say he was. You also said 75% of people being deported to El Salvador were innocent and were not criminals. Which as we know, is only half the truth.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with anything else PVA has said, has it?
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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Do you think this punishment is suitable?
A comparable punishment to whatever we issue for making death threats perhaps, which is what she did. I don't think people should be arrested for simply saying 'I don't like immigrants', I do think they should be for saying people should be burned alive. Particularly when people did attempt exactly that last summer.
 

Brighton Sky Blue

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They are.

You said one particular gangsters wasn't a a gangster - despite the courts seeing sufficient evidence to say he was. You also said 75% of people being deported to El Salvador were innocent and were not criminals. Which as we know, is only half the truth.

Regardless, it has nothing to do with anything else PVA has said, has it?
Your post is clearly referencing me, my friend.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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A comparable punishment to whatever we issue for making death threats perhaps, which is what she did. I don't think people should be arrested for simply saying 'I don't like immigrants', I do think they should be for saying people should be burned alive. Particularly when people did attempt exactly that last summer.

Well that is the issue I guess.

There are people who have physically commited violent or sexual offences that have received lower sentences.
 

PVA

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Right, because if people wet the bed about Trump and deportations, and it's pointed out that they are factually wrong, that means we're defending sex offender behaviour because of it. Totally the same thing of course.

I mean, is there anything else a bit less moronic you want to contribute?

Can you not see the incredible irony of your absurd labelling of others alongside your statement above?
 

PVA

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To be honest, I think this is all a bit above your level. I don't think I've ever once seen you contribute something useful to these threads.

Ah yes because calling people paedophile sympathisers because they don't agree with you is such a useful contribution.

As I said the other day, total parody of yourself.
 

Earlsdon_Skyblue1

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Bold statement from someone who seems to accept what's put out by Trump and co. pretty readily.
Ah yes because calling people paedophile sympathisers because they don't agree with you is such a useful contribution.

As I said the other day, total parody of yourself.


You both lean of the side of sympathy for paedophiles and now also murdering gangsters as well, so this is becoming a bit of a bad look which has only been brought on by yourselves. I don't think it is me that is the problem here.

I've demonstrated enough rhyme and reason why the situation is what it is with deportations, which many of you didn't have a clue about. Even if the US government did release all information on them, which we could argue about all day, it would still never be enough for you anyway. You would find some other problem with it for the next few years until the next government came in, then blissfully jump on the offensive like you are supporting a football team. You want to live in this echo chamber (which I have clearly disturbed), and this echo chamber is one that has sympathy for some pretty undesirable types of people in order to get one over on 'the other side'.

It might be pretty comfortable on here with many of you in this pack, but outside in the real world (something I don't think you know much about) it is a different matter. Enjoy yourselves whilst you can.
 

mmttww

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You both lean of the side of sympathy for paedophiles and now also murdering gangsters.

Me: points out it's a bit contradictory to insult the intelligence of others while believing statements from the Trump administration without much question.

You: OMG, see! You like paedos and gangsters!!1

 
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Brighton Sky Blue

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You both lean of the side of sympathy for paedophiles and now also murdering gangsters as well, so this is becoming a bit of a bad look which has only been brought on by yourselves. I don't think it is me that is the problem here.

I've demonstrated enough rhyme and reason why the situation is what it is with deportations, which many of you didn't have a clue about. Even if the US government did release all information on them, which we could argue about all day, it would still never be enough for you anyway. You would find some other problem with it for the next few years until the next government came in, then blissfully jump on the offensive like you are supporting a football team. You want to live in this echo chamber (which I have clearly disturbed), and this echo chamber is one that has sympathy for some pretty undesirable types of people in order to get one over on 'the other side'.

It might be pretty comfortable on here with many of you in this pack, but outside in the real world (something I don't think you know much about) it is a different matter. Enjoy yourselves whilst you can.
This is like playing chess against someone who thinks it’s draughts
 

SBT

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You both lean of the side of sympathy for paedophiles
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