USSR invades Ukraine. (26 Viewers)

[fatso]

Well, it is when a total moron lets the world's richest man run riot at the Treasury.

Well I'd suggest the American treasury has done a very piss poor job up to now.
So why not let someone who's been more successful in business than anyone else alive today have a go running it?

Whatever you think of him, he does have a very impressive CV.

And things can't get any worse for the US than they are right now. They are 4 months away from financial armagedon.

 

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[Brighton Sky Blue]

Well I'd suggest the American treasury has done a very piss poor job up to now.
So why not let someone who's been more successful in business than anyone else alive today have a go running it?

Whatever you think of him, he does have a very impressive CV.

And things can't get any worse for the US than they are right now. They are 4 months away from financial armagedon.

Because a) if referring to Trump, he isn’t a successful businessman, he’s a fraud and b) a country isn’t a business.

 

[SBT]

Ffs mate, how fucking naive are you???
Of fucking course they are going to big up Putin"s threat to the US and Europe, how the fuck else are they going to justify the exorbitant defence spending?? How are they going to milk the tax payers otherwise??? How do they keep the big money contracts rolling in without a big bad guy in the world???

If its not Putin it's China, or Nortn Korea and if its not them they'd have to invent one.
But there will always be one.

The American government is 36 trillion dollars in debt, that equates to 100,000 dollars for every man, woman and child in the country.
If they don't raise the debt ceiling even higher, then by August they won't be able to pay the public sector, and will default on their debt. That will lead to a global meltdown of epic proportions.
They need a bad guy in the world to maintain defence jobs and keep employment levels high.

Trump is trying to address that, and he's doing it by ramping up their economy, the tariffs will ultimately lead to renegotiated trade deals, Increased NATO spending will be on American made arms, and equipment.

Remaining tarifs on China will see global companies move their manufacturing facilities back to America to gain access to that market. All of which will mean jobs for American workers and tax dollars for the government.

Trump has been open and upfront about the plan from the day he announced he'd run for office. It's even called" M.A.G.A." for fuck sake.
How much more obvious can it be?

Reading so much bollocks on here from people who don't understand or hear what he's said is hilarious.

So if I have this right, Trump is trying to address the high levels of US public debt, while at the same time also deliberately overstating Putin's threat to justify "exorbitant defence spending" that will "milk the tax payer"?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

So if I have this right, Trump is trying to address the high levels of US public debt, while at the same time also deliberately overstating Putin's threat to justify "exorbitant defence spending" that will "milk the tax payer"?

5D financial chess.

 

[fatso]

So if I have this right, Trump is trying to address the high levels of US public debt, while at the same time also deliberately overstating Putin's threat to justify "exorbitant defence spending" that will "milk the tax payer"?

The threat from Putin = defence contracts = money for the rich company owners = jobs for American workers = tax for the treasury

In short the wealthy factory workers get rich, and keep the poor working hard and paying their taxes.

If the working classes are working they arnt rioting and rocking the boat causing a revolution.

 

[SBT]

The threat from Putin = defence contracts = money for the rich company owners = jobs for American workers = tax for the treasury

In short the wealthy factory workers get rich, and keep the poor working hard and paying their taxes.

If the working classes are working they arnt rioting and rocking the boat causing a revolution.

You must be concerned that Trump's new pick for NASA administrator wants to spend billions on making sure Americans "return" to the moon?

 

[fatso]

You must be concerned that Trump's new pick for NASA administrator wants to spend billions on making sure Americans "return" to the moon?

Yep, fucking crazy idea.

America is bankrupt, half the planet can't feed itself, and yet they want to go "back" to the moon.

Again, (imo) this is just another case of financial contracts being given out to keep the NASA employees and their supply chain in work.

Although the cost in real terms is negligible as every penny spent will be subject to direct tax (as in paye) and then indirect tax (everytime a nasa employee spends his wages he/she pays local tax) so the money trickles back to the treasuree over time.

But never the less, the end product of all the investment (the moon trip) seams totally pointless.

In the UK we've done the same with HS2

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

Yep, fucking crazy idea.

America is bankrupt, half the planet can't feed itself, and yet they want to go "back" to the moon.

Again, (imo) this is just another case of financial contracts being given out to keep the NASA employees and their supply chain in work.

Although the cost in real terms is negligible as every penny spent will be subject to direct tax (as in paye) and then indirect tax (everytime a nasa employee spends his wages he/she pays local tax) so the money trickles back to the treasuree over time.

But never the less, the end product of all the investment (the moon trip) seams totally pointless.

Trump will fix it. He said he would.

 

[fatso]

Trump will fix it. He said he would.

It will be interesting to watch.

 

[Flying Fokker]

Von Shitzinpants won’t do this.

Zelensky urges Trump to visit Ukraine ahead of deal with Russia

Trump called Sunday's attack, which killed 34 people, "horrible" and "a mistake", with Germany calling it a war crime.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[fernandopartridge]

Here you go #shmmeee

There's even a graph in it, and we know how much you love a graph!

US could run short of money to pay its bills by August without a debt limit deal, CBO says

The United States is on track to hit its statutory debt ceiling — the so-called X-date when the country runs short of money to pay its bills— as early as August without a deal between lawmakers and the White House.

apnews.com

The debt ceiling is arbitrary, there is literally no limit to the amount of USD the USA can spend, it is certainly not limited to an arbitrary number.

 

[PVA]

It was just a mistake, never mind. Silly old Russia, what are they like eh!

 

[eastwoodsdustman]

It was just a mistake, never mind. Silly old Russia, what are they like eh!

To be fair its a really easy mistake to make. Send a cruise missile in then a cluster bomb a few minutes later as they are trying to deal with the injured and dead.

 

[PVA]

FFS

 

[shmmeee]

America is bankrupt

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

FFS

‘It was like that when I got here’ is one of Homer Simpson’s three lifetime excuses he passes on to Bart

 

[chiefdave]

FFS

Is he talking about a different Ukraine war to the one he said would be over within 24 hours of him taking office?

 

[fatso]

Unfortunately it's no laughing matter for the US

The National Debt Approaches $32 Trillion, Will It Bankrupt America?

The national debt continues to soar as politicians use the budget to garner votes. At some point, American may experience the most radical change in modern history.

www.forbes.com

 

[mmttww]

‘It was like that when I got here’ is one of Homer Simpson’s three lifetime excuses he passes on to Bart

tbf so was 'blame it on the guy who doesn't speak English' so that's two he's stolen from Homer's playbook. What was the other one?

 

[Brighton Sky Blue]

tbf so was 'blame it on the guy who doesn't speak English' so that's two he's stolen from Homer's playbook. What was the other one?

‘It’s my first day’, which actually he’s also sort of said in that post. So it’s a hat trick

 

[Flying Fokker]

Millions of people dead? Glad we have someone who tells it as it is…

 

[Sick Boy]

Trump blames Zelensky for starting war day after massive Russian attack

The US president said that you "don't start a war against someone 20 times your size" and hope people give you missiles.

www.bbc.com

 

[Sky Blue Pete]

Don’t worry Nigel and his grifters will do exactly the same and we’ve only ourselves to blame allowing politicians of all shapes and sizes to lie without accountability
And no they’re not all the same
And yes Farage is one of the worst but as he says everyone else lies so what’s one that’s a bit bigger

Biggest lie we will deport all illegal immigrants - lie

 

[Flying Fokker]

Now that they have a mineral deal it will be interesting if US citizens will be protected.

US will 'move on' from Ukraine peace talks if no progress soon

The US Secretary of State's comments come as Ukraine says it took a first step towards signing a minerals deal with the US.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Sick Boy]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the US just walk away from this now that they’ve got their mineral deal in place. It’ll leave Ukraine with no US military aid or security guarantees- whoever is overseeing their strategy in all this is majorly incompetent.

 

[CCFCSteve]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the US just walk away from this now that they’ve got their mineral deal in place. It’ll leave Ukraine with no US military aid or security guarantees- whoever is overseeing their strategy in all this is majorly incompetent.

Ukraine would be crazy to sign a mineral deal without continued U.S. military aid/ guarantees. Problem is Putin doesn’t seem to want to budge either way

 

[Sky_Blue_Dreamer]

Ukraine would be crazy to sign a mineral deal without continued U.S. military aid/ guarantees. Problem is Putin doesn’t seem to want to budge either way

Well that's what you get with Trump. Trump is far more supportive of Putin and doesn't give a fuck about legal obligations let alone moral ones. Either way Ukraine gets fucked over by America.

If Ukraine don't sign a minerals deal then Trump throws his toys out the pram and denies Ukraine help (or even actively aids Russia).

If they do sign Trump has now got what he wants so why spend American money etc. when he's already got what he wants? So he'll just leave Ukraine to Putin's whim. He cares nothing for agreements or deals unless it's him not getting what was agreed. I think he believes a deal is something that is compulsory for the other party but voluntary for him - 'you have to give me that and I can choose whether to give you this in return'

Only time that would likely change is when Putin denies him access to the minerals in Ukraine because Putin will state the agreement was made with a fake government and so the contract does not exist. Only by that time it'd be too late.

But with Trump who knows. He could be threatening to nuke Russia before the end of Easter because of some perceived slight for all we know,

 

[PVA]

Now that they have a mineral deal it will be interesting if US citizens will be protected.

US will 'move on' from Ukraine peace talks if no progress soon

The US Secretary of State's comments come as Ukraine says it took a first step towards signing a minerals deal with the US.

www.bbc.co.uk

From I'll sort it on my first day to this is too hard.

Art of the deal.