Coventry Cobblers Vs Blades on TV (16 Viewers)

[Nonleagueherewecome]

It's a different situation between ours and Wimbledon's

It's similar enough for a replication to be a concern. Assuming it won't happen is naive and dangerous.

 

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[skybluericoh]

I live in Binley (when I'm in Coventry). It's a 15 min drive from the train station and a 5 minute walk from the Warwickshire boundary. Coombe Abbey is considered Coventry but is in Warwickshire. If they are looking at Brandon Speedway or Ansty, I'd say that it was close enough.

Not In Coventry though so in my book not close enough, not when there is a perfectly good stadium that SISU have walked away from. In the last couple of weeks it's gone from 3 to maybe 5, no plans, no kit no ticket sales, give it 5 yrs no club

 

[Jack Griffin]

What's to stop sisu buying nene park and paying the million quid?

The potential Nene Park catchment area hasn't many fans. Even Northampton & Kettering have no history of teams playing at a reasonable level.

Frankly I can't think of a place where a franchise could move.. you'd need a thriving town, population 150,000 or more and no league club.

Milton Keynes was the last place that was suitable.

 

[Sky Blues]

The potential Nene Park catchment area hasn't many fans. Even Northampton & Kettering have no history of teams playing at a reasonable level.

Frankly I can't think of a place where a franchise could move.. you'd need a thriving town, population 150,000 or more and no league club.

Milton Keynes was the last place that was suitable.

If we're not playing here in Coventry it could open up a very big market that someone else might want to try to move into. "The Football League will never let them", you cry. Ah, so what would some keen-eyed chairman with no loyalty to the roots of the game do? I dunno, maybe he could manufacture a rent dispute, say we can't play here any more and ask the Football League if they could move to a temporary new home - and there just happens to be a nice big empty stadium in Coventry that fits the bill. The Football League say okay, but only for 3-5 years. At the end of that time the chairman has not made any progress on building a new stadium and when the Football League say "go home" he takes the fight to the courts... What would the Football League do then?...

Of course, we all know such a scenario is pie in the sky...

 

[deanocity3]

Now can't we have a big screen up and watch the match at the ricoh,and get more there then sixfields

 

[skybluelee]

Why do people keep making this stupid comparison with Wimbledon? Situations couldn't be more different.

THe situation is much closer to the Wimbledon one than any other club in the FL.

 

[skybluelee]

Your proof that they won't come back? Because from what I can see Otium (as much as I wish they'd feck off) have agreed a deal with the Football League and the rules state that they (Otium) were required to present plans to return to the Coventry Area within a certain amount of time. No we might not return to the Ricoh Arena again and I can't say it's ever felt like our home..

Coventry area...

 

[Broken Hearted Sky Blue]

Your proof that they won't come back? Because from what I can see Otium (as much as I wish they'd feck off) have agreed a deal with the Football League and the rules state that they (Otium) were required to prck to the new shed thatesent plans to return to the Coventry Area within a certain amount of time. No we might not return to the Ricoh Arena again and I can't say it's ever felt like our home..

An if and I mean if we come back to the new shed that will feel like home will it? Grow up

 

[theferret]

THe situation is much closer to the Wimbledon one than any other club in the FL.

I'd say it was much closer to Brighton, Rotherham, Bristol Rovers and Charlton - and even then it isn't all that similar to any of them which were all unique situations in their own way. It's a million miles from the Wimbledon scenario if you ask me, but then I guess if people say it often enough they'll be those that start to believe it.

Wimbledon to MK was a one off never to be repeated. Jack Griffin makes the point above perfectly. It says it all that when they looked at relocating they identified two possible locations - MK and Dublin (that idea didn't get very far) - so MK it was as there was simply nowhere else suitable.

 

[DaleM]

Initially no - their move to Selhurst Park was always seen as temporary, but their move to MK was permanent. Their unscrupulous and opportunistic chairman saw the chance to move the club to a large urban area with no professional football team and build the club into something bigger (which to a certain extent he has achieved I suppose).

I just wonder where this large town is with no football team that SISU plan to move us to, a place big enough to provide them with a fan base large enough to sustain a club that can rise through the divisions in order that they can get the return on their investment they so desperately want. I mean, where is it? Because if you are going to make the Wimbledon comparison you have to tell us where that place is, because it sure as hell isn't Northampton.

It is feasible that the club could wither and die if the move lasts more than one season - and for that reason I am desperate for it to not happen, but those that declare with absolute certainty that the club will NEVER return are just being hysterical.

I agree with what you say about Wimbledon ferret.Their Chairman "done 'em up like kippers"But the comparisons are startling. Nothing seems to be beyond these people and I for one believe that we will never come back to Coventry if the Sixfields deal goes through. Non League obscurity beckon with lots and lots more debt accumulated through inter company loans , interest and management fees imo.

 

[theferret]

I agree with what you say about Wimbledon ferret.Their Chairman "done 'em up like kippers"But the comparisons are startling. Nothing seems to be beyond these people and I for one believe that we will never come back to Coventry if the Sixfields deal goes through. Non League obscurity beckon with lots and lots more debt accumulated through inter company loans , interest and management fees imo.

I'm not suggesting that it isn't at least possible that we won't return - that is a very real concern and we should therefore do everything we can to keep the club here. If it doesn't return then the club will die - I just don't believe the 'franchise' idea has any merit for the reasons given, and those people who seem to think that was the plan all along are barking up the wrong tree if you ask me. Either way, it's a desperate situation.

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

Now can't we have a big screen up and watch the match at the ricoh,and get more there then sixfields

Deano - I like this a lot

 

[Sky Blue Harry H]

I'm certainly not in the defeatist camp that say we should walk away. Well not yet

However, we should not be blind to the fact that the motives of those that own the club are still less than clear.

Put simply I cannot rationalise why a football club needs such a mind boggling amount of companies both on and off-shore involved in its running. Until I can do so, my suspicions are
and will remain, raised.

They are further raised when friends of mine involved in similar Hedge Fund organisations suggest to me that having "distressed assets" such as Coventry City Football Club within the "portfolio" of its business can be seen as a good thing. They suggest that keeping CCFC "barely alive" and losing money could be used as a good tax avoidance vehicle for any monies they cannot effectively off shore to such places as the Camen Islands.

Again, I know not if this is correct.

Motives??? . If only we knew SISU's true motives.......

Nice post Longford - if you are right with your hypothesis, then as a group of fans we may have to force the issue through setting up CCFC2 and starting again. Hate the thought in some way, but if SHITSU are happy to leave us as barely more than dead as a long term strategy, it's the only way I feel supporters can get their club back:blue:

 

[deanocity3]

who watch the FA cup match relayed to HR from Bramell Lane in late 90's

 

[Gary.j]

Nice post Longford - if you are right with your hypothesis, then as a group of fans we may have to force the issue through setting up CCFC2 and starting again. Hate the thought in some way, but if SHITSU are happy to leave us as barely more than dead as a long term strategy, it's the only way I feel supporters can get their club back:blue:

That's how I feel, I find it hard to see anything other than decline and misery with these people at the helm. abandon sisu; start again https://www.facebook.com/Coventry1883

 

[mark82]

The potential Nene Park catchment area hasn't many fans. Even Northampton & Kettering have no history of teams playing at a reasonable level.

Frankly I can't think of a place where a franchise could move.. you'd need a thriving town, population 150,000 or more and no league club.

Milton Keynes was the last place that was suitable.

There are cities without league clubs still though.

 

[mark82]

I'd say it was much closer to Brighton, Rotherham, Bristol Rovers and Charlton - and even then it isn't all that similar to any of them which were all unique situations in their own way. It's a million miles from the Wimbledon scenario if you ask me, but then I guess if people say it often enough they'll be those that start to believe it.

Wimbledon to MK was a one off never to be repeated. Jack Griffin makes the point above perfectly. It says it all that when they looked at relocating they identified two possible locations - MK and Dublin (that idea didn't get very far) - so MK it was as there was simply nowhere else suitable.

It's similar to how Wimbledon started. People seem to forget they moved to Crystal Palace first. Not as far but was a temporary move. They never went back.

 

[Nonleagueherewecome]

There are cities without league clubs still though.

This is fun: http://www.sporcle.com/games/BenjaminoGTF/10_largest_towns_no_fl_team


I got 4/10. Most of them do have reasonably large non-league sides.

 

[Delboycov]

Do you have evidence to show me otherwise?

Come on Rob...surely you can see what appears to be happening here? Fisher spent 2 months going on about 3 years...3 years...3 years. He said it so much that some started to accept it and were prepared to go along with it. Then out of nowhere he slips in possibly 5 years! The man or his employers are not to be trusted so don't bank on us ever returning to Coventry....only the very naive would take what they say with any more than a pinch of salt.

 

[StevieM]

We all were worried that we may end up in Walsall, wouldn't it be ironic that if the Saddlers got promotion to the Championship and their shyster chairman moved them to.... the Ricoh....afterall the precident has been set...it's got to be worth a paltry mill I reckon

 

[blend]

The Wimbledon owners fell out with Merton Borough Council. Then they went to Selhurst and continued to blame Merton. Then they said they couldn't afford the rent there and continued to blame Merton. In the circumstances this seems highly likely to me. No-one has a crystal ball but they're not coming back unless they get the Ricoh. It's a bit naive to think they'd just get given it isn't it? Councils are not awash with money these days.

 

[blend]

I'd say it was much closer to Brighton, Rotherham, Bristol Rovers and Charlton - and even then it isn't all that similar to any of them which were all unique situations in their own way. It's a million miles from the Wimbledon scenario if you ask me, but then I guess if people say it often enough they'll be those that start to believe it.

Wimbledon to MK was a one off never to be repeated. Jack Griffin makes the point above perfectly. It says it all that when they looked at relocating they identified two possible locations - MK and Dublin (that idea didn't get very far) - so MK it was as there was simply nowhere else suitable.

Not sure about Rovers, but none of the other 3 clubs you mention had fallen out with the local council. Further legal action not going to help those relationships either. Rotherham moved back to city centre stadium. Brighton moved back to a council run athletics track whilst amex was being built. Only one that really got into ongoing battle with local council was Wimbledon hence the comparison.

 

[mark82]

This is fun: http://www.sporcle.com/games/BenjaminoGTF/10_largest_towns_no_fl_team


I got 4/10. Most of them do have reasonably large non-league sides.

Got 5. Would argue I got 6 as Wakefield is bigger than all those that were listed.

 

[mark82]

Got 5. Would argue I got 6 as Wakefield is bigger than all those that were listed.

Warrington also.

 

[RoboCCFC90]

Come on Rob...surely you can see what appears to be happening here? Fisher spent 2 months going on about 3 years...3 years...3 years. He said it so much that some started to accept it and were prepared to go along with it. Then out of nowhere he slips in possibly 5 years! The man or his employers are not to be trusted so don't bank on us ever returning to Coventry....only the very naive would take what they say with any more than a pinch of salt.

Yeah I know exactly what it looks like however as I have said on another thread we won't be at Northampton forever and we will return to Coventry.