Do you really want the City to lose? (12 Viewers)
- Thread starter Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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Because your customers are only handing money over during an interim period. They would not continue to attend if the relocation was made permanent.
henry the wasp
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By giving money to the owners you are supporting them. Unless you have freebies. In which case you have still justified what they are doing.
bigfatronssba
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It will never be made permanent, just the move back will be continually postponed.
Chester FC Fan
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As hard as it is, you should want the team to lose cup games... The last thing you want is a plum draw in the cup and Sisu making good money out of it.
At the end of the day, you watch the team and support the club, but sometimes it's hard to do these when the people in charge are strangling the air out of every living breath the club has left. By winning cup games it just gives them a chance of bigger income
At the end of the day, you watch the team and support the club, but sometimes it's hard to do these when the people in charge are strangling the air out of every living breath the club has left. By winning cup games it just gives them a chance of bigger income
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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Or its just you taking your stance, and fair play to you, and I taking mine..last time I looked we lived in a free thinking country...
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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well then we boycott, not now...
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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No I am supporting the team, I don' buy a ticket to watch TF and JS play football, I understand you what you are trying to say, but unless you are me you are unable to stat what or who I am supporting, because you are not me - what you are saying is that in your opinion I am supporting the owners...
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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And you have proof this how? or is it assumptions again?
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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I agree to point, I dont want a big game, but if we did get Spurs again...I and many NOPM would be there like a shot...
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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I'm off to see the new Jaguar Exhibition at the Transport Museum with my boy, then off for some lunch...have a good day.
Moscowskyblue
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At least your no willing them to lose.
Is your name Roger? just a hunch from your forum name...
No my name is not Roger.....
I respect your right stay with the team and your unwavering commitment( although I do ask whether you feel that your commitment is being reciprocated in any way?) and make no comment whatsoever about the reason we are in this situation but we are where we are and its not a situation where I take the same course of action as you feel you can. And heres why: i have put decades of emotional support in to CCFC and countless thousands in to supporting them and buying the tat that comes with it, losing relationships that were less important to me than CCFC but I have had enough of being taken for granted by my club, by its sport and by its masters.
I will now seek another avenue to satisfy my Coventry fix and I will look to follow a path that brings a fresh and unsullied club that will represent the City of Coventry and Warwickshire with honesty and integrity and believe that others will see this is a way ahead without the stink that currently prevails over my city's current representative.
Is your name Roger? just a hunch from your forum name...
No my name is not Roger.....
I respect your right stay with the team and your unwavering commitment( although I do ask whether you feel that your commitment is being reciprocated in any way?) and make no comment whatsoever about the reason we are in this situation but we are where we are and its not a situation where I take the same course of action as you feel you can. And heres why: i have put decades of emotional support in to CCFC and countless thousands in to supporting them and buying the tat that comes with it, losing relationships that were less important to me than CCFC but I have had enough of being taken for granted by my club, by its sport and by its masters.
I will now seek another avenue to satisfy my Coventry fix and I will look to follow a path that brings a fresh and unsullied club that will represent the City of Coventry and Warwickshire with honesty and integrity and believe that others will see this is a way ahead without the stink that currently prevails over my city's current representative.
Sky Blue Kid
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Skybluerevolution (Pt2) I agree to point, I dont want a big game, but if we did get Spurs again...I and many NOPM would be there like a shot..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Like I said, there are those that try and make a difference, and there are those that don't(If the cap..and all that) I think you underestimate the resolve of the majority of fans mate 
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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Skybluerevolution (Pt2) I agree to point, I dont want a big game, but if we did get Spurs again...I and many NOPM would be there like a shot..............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................................Like I said, there are those that try and make a difference, and there are those that don't(If the cap..and all that) I think you underestimate the resolve of the majority of fans mate
If the caps fits? Try to make a difference? wow you do think you are important don't you? lets see what happens if City get a big draw or even do well in the league, or maybe the Wolves game? you forget that most football supporters are selfish people that have given up most Saturdays for years, to the annoyance of their wife's and families ect...one sniff of a run or a big cup draw, will see the NOPM campaign crumble - as I said I think the Wolves game alone will be a sell out on its own, so you sit at home or go shopping with the wife and allow me to support my team, without fear or favor. CITY TILL I DIE (Not till we sort of hit a bump or two)
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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No problem with that at all, I can understand your disappointment, you are not wishing the team no ill thou are you, your making a choice to stop supporting them, I get enough back from seeing them play win, lose or draw...
The hypocrisy of this point astounds me, given that SISU are roundly slated for offering to pay what the rent is worth, as opposed to what is wanted by the owners.
nicksig
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I went to my first game at home against QPR in Feb 1992. Been hooked ever since and have spent thousands over the years following City. But now quite honestly I they are not my team. They don't play in the city, represent the city or the interests of the fans in any way. They are just a number on the spreadsheet of a hedgefund's portfolio. So until we have our club back then yes I hope they lose. And I exect they will lose quite often given the key players that are now being forced out of the club. How can I support that? I'm afraid I can't. Sorry but that's my view.
skybluepete1987
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I don't think anybody has ever slated Sisu for trying to negotiate the rent downwards - I would say we all acknowledge that the rent was too high and inflexible for the club to ever manage regardless of the owners. People slate them for:
1) Their aggressive and uncompromising stance.
2) The fact that they act as if the agreement was foisted upon them when in fact they happily purchased the club with the contract in place.
shmmeee
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There were at least three other serious bidders (including the Trust, which you can scoff at but in the event of liquidation I'd hope you'd be with me in purchasing shares to enable a fans takeover if needed) at a sale that the administrator refused to confirm that even the GS was part of, let alone then entire club as it now transpires. I think there'd be interest, that argument is less valid that is was pre-admin.
Also, we might go down to the youth team, we might end up owing players money, but as Portsmouth have shown, everything will be done to keep us alive and relatively competitive. I think you assume a doomsday scenario too quickly.
shmmeee
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Really? What was their offer?
Because the story coming out of meetings is that their stance was firmly "give us the Ricoh for nothing or we'll run you into the ground in legal fees".
ACL have made at least two public offers: the £400k + F&B for accounting purposes (rejected out of hand) and the latest £150k (rejected out of hand).
Tell me when Sisu have offered "to pay what the rent is worth".
Chrisbaker85PUSB
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Skybluerevolution Pt2. All you have to look at is the news this morning that SISU have told Carl Baker, Leon Clarke and Joe Murphy they are free to leave. This is a result of going to Northampton you know the move you must be in full support of as you are going to attend. I have no issue with fans attending games at Northampton if that's what they want to do but don't come out and say you don't support the owners because you and everyone else that is going is basically funding the move. There are other ways to support the club than going to Northampton could you not go and join in the protests on the hill outside where you will be able to see the game and then support the team at away games by buying the tickets direct from the home team.
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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I think you will find that only selling 220 season tickets and the NOPM has not helped the financial struggle, therefore SISU will cut their cloth accordingly, so its you and your cohorts that are putting the club at risk this why these players are being told they can leave and £8k a week in league 1? is that a good salary for some of our players? would you agree that is not sustainable in this current climate? Again I am supporting the team and not the owners, you have your opinion and I have mine, btw you will sit on that hill maybe once then you will be moved by the Police, if you try resist you will be arrested and banned, so good luck with that...
CarpyCov84
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Some garbage being spoken I here at present I see
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italiahorse
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Sixfields cannot take the crowds we had last year so SISU have already cut the budget from last year.
Non attendance this year will effect next years team spend (Fair Play Rules), but it should hurt SISU more this year, than it will the team, as they have committed to support the financial gap, and fair play spending is based on last years income.
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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The trust...how much did they bid? last time I heard they had £2500k in the bank? the legal fees and due diligence would swallow that up in a heartbeat, and I would not give them my money I am afraid, I nothing against them and I am sure there hearts and minds are sky blue, but I would not be passing over any money until I had had a proper prospectus detailing their plans for the future - when you say 3 serious bids can you explain what you mean, do you have some in-depth knowledge to all of the bids made? Please share with me so I too can make an informed decision like you.
Portsmouth got smashed at the weekend by Oxford in league 2 - its a bit earlier to be holding them up as successful team just yet, I does concern me this need for fan ownership, considering (I assume) none of the trust have ran a football club before or been involved in elite professional sports, what makes you convinced they would do any better than SISU?? What happens when we need an injection of funds into the club, who do they turn to? Is there any one involved with the trust that has substantial sums of money he or she is happy to throw away?? sorry invest. or do we shake a bucket outside of the Ricoh? I am pro trust but not for fan ownership.
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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Which one?
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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Why not add to the discussion instead of you moronic infantile posts...
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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Is the garbage being spoken? if so how can you see it?
If this makes you physically sick you need to take a long hard look at yourself
Sky Blue Kid
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Skybluerevolution (Pt2).... Quite the contrary, the self important shit seems to be coming from your mouth mate.
Sky Blue Kid
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Skybluerevolution (Pt2) How many more years of total fucking shite mismanagement and asset stripping are you up for mate? YOU and a few more like you are fucking unbeleiveable!
CarpyCov84
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Skybluerevoloution read your posts back to yourself you'll soon grasp it fella
Skybluerevolution (Pt2)
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Really...wanting my team to lose, no thanks ill stick to being a supporter.