fernandopartridge
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The last paragraph is the pertinent bit. Forget the mud slinging and get on with it. Then senior management from both sides can tender their resignation over this debacle.
Greg Clarke admits he doesn't know if Sisu will build stadium (6 Viewers)
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Brighton Sky Blue
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He has muddied the waters somewhat by passing the groundshare and giving SISU back the golden share. He pulled out the stops to prevent Chainrai from getting another look in at Portsmouth, why did he just pass the buck here?
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Heres the rub I dont want resignations I want Sisu out. There was no need whatsoever for this shit you can all try to aportion blame all you like but who by taking us to Northampton is destroying CCFC
chiefdave
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But the point is we've been shafted by the football league. I'm not saying he's done it because he's a Leicester fan but the league have ignored an increasing number of their own rules. They have allowed SISU to move the club against the fans wishes, have issued the golden share back to SISU and have absolutely no idea if SISU will ever move the club back. Saying it will be OK when one side gives up is a joke and shows how little understanding he has of the situation.
2 very simple facts:
1) if the FL had not authorised the ground share we would not be playing at Northampton
2) if the FL had not handed back the golden share to a company who are to all intents and purposes the same company who got is into this mess we would not be playing in Northampton
The FL has been highly complicit in allowing this situation and despite what he claims they certainly do have it within their power to stop it. The fact that they choose not to raises the question as to why they choose not to. My belief is the FL are at fault for allowing players to be moved from Ltd to Holdings and therefore separated from the share and / or they are scared of the legal threats SISU have made.
You still obsessed? Clark and the FL are a bunch of spineless peckers that have buried our club. As far as I am concerned there isn't a governing body.
hackneyfox
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If the fl refuse you permission and you don't return to The Ricoh then you would be thrown out of the league for not being to complete fixture.
If Sisu agreed to you playing at the ricoh then their whole gameplay of forcing acl into financial difficulties to gain control of the ground fails.
Clark is obviously aware of this, for you to stay in the league I don't see what else they could do.
It's most likely Northampton or non league, both sides would sooner see you go under than give in now.
If Sisu agreed to you playing at the ricoh then their whole gameplay of forcing acl into financial difficulties to gain control of the ground fails.
Clark is obviously aware of this, for you to stay in the league I don't see what else they could do.
It's most likely Northampton or non league, both sides would sooner see you go under than give in now.
chiefdave
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CCFC Ltd, which was the football club, went into administration and will be liquidated. There was nothing to say they had to give the share back to SISU they could have given it to PK4, Byng or one of the other bidders. So given that choice the FL selected the only people who's plan was to move the club out of the city.
They had other choices, they chose not to take them.
chiefdave
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with FFP and the revenues we will be getting chances are by the time SISU go we'll be out the league anyway.
hackneyfox
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FFS Buried your club?
Why do you feel the need to blame someone else when the culprits have run your club into the ground for how many years now?
Sisu decided you were playing at Northampton and did everything they could to fore that decision.
Broken Hearted Sky Blue
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Why there was a ground there waiting for them:thinking about:
Brighton Sky Blue
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If the club got expelled from the league then SISU would have lost all of their total investment on the spot-the threat of this would have forced them to concede some ground. Their gameplay of trying to bust ACL to secure the Ricoh is exactly why the League shouldn't have just mindlessly granted their request.
hackneyfox
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Surely the administrator giving control to Optium, who had a direct to the club whereas as the others don't, somewhat forced where the share went? Get that wrong and it's 30 points.
Brighton Sky Blue
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The League did a lot to make sure that Pompey's administrator only considered the bid from the supporters' trust. They could have made similar efforts here but chose the easy option.
Sisued
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The points deductions don't matter, with sisu selling everything they can and slowly dismantling the club we will be relegated regardless.
Our clubs dead until it returns to Coventry and the way this is playing out that won't happen while sisu are in charge. That being the case how long until they relocate the club and rename it?
Our clubs dead until it returns to Coventry and the way this is playing out that won't happen while sisu are in charge. That being the case how long until they relocate the club and rename it?
hackneyfox
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Hadn't the supporter's trust raised a significant amount of money and appeared to be united.
Not saying them alone but they certainly helped pat down the earth, everyone knows that.
chiefdave
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The administrator didn't give control to Otium. They made Otium (who are the same company as Ltd / Holdings / Avro) preferred bidder for Ltd who were (are) in administration. When the CVA was rejected the administrator announced his intention to liquidate Ltd rather than open bidding again or ask Otium to make an improved offer. The FL then decided that the best people to take their place were Otium, there was absolutely no law, or FL regulation that required them to issue the share to Otium they have decided to do that all on their own. Ltd is actually still in administration but for some reason the FL have decided that they are no longer in 'football administration' which personally I've never heard of before.
Fans have repeatedly requested the FL to act and follow their own rules and regulations, and indeed their own customer charter but SISU seem to have such a hold on them that the league are happy to ignore any rules that get in the way of SISU doing exactly what they want.
One of the other potential owners, PK4, has since had met with the council and it is rumoured that he may be purchasing at least a stake in the Rioch.
chiefdave
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Pompey supporters? Not at all, the fans have funded some of the buyout but they also have loans from a property investor and their local council. Living down here i can tell you there were, and still are, far from united.
SkyBlueBlood
Member
The biggest disgrace in all of this is that immoral incompetents like Clarke and Fisher can get away with this.
James Smith
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I'd happily do the job with the basic salary being my current wages (and remember I work in a shop so don't earn anything like £20k let alone £1m). Now expenses and expense accounts can be abused (any politician can tell you that) and free tickets could be seen as bribery. So let's say on top of my basic salary we add £5k for travelling to and from plus tickets to all the matches I'd have to go and watch as part of the job. The FA would have change from £25k, and have more to spend on rooting out unscrupulous owners, dodgy business practices etc.
SkyblueBazza
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Question is - How long will it take for Tim Fisher to do likewise?
lift tower
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bruce?
sw88
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Another article that shows what I would only consider as incompetence. Not specifically about CCFC, but still shows up the FL and their not for purpose existence:
http://www.winsfordguardian.co.uk/uk_national_sport/9144599.Club_ownership__difficult____Clarke/
http://www.winsfordguardian.co.uk/uk_national_sport/9144599.Club_ownership__difficult____Clarke/
WiganSkyBlue
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I think this shows, if we didn't know it already, that an urgent investigation into the governance of football is required by the Dept of Culture, Media and Sport and/or the Dept for Business, Innovation and Skills, with a view to legislate as neither the FA nor the FL has shown any willingness to enforce their own rules.
