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[torchomatic]

I've met a few, heard a few on phone-ins and theferrett said that those he talked to inside the ground blamed the council and not our owners in the row (so supported their view in the most literal sense).

So its fair to assume some support the owners.

Now if you don't support the owners in moving to Sixfields but go anyway then I think its a fair claim to say you are weak as you are not following your beliefs. I don't think there's anything particularly controversial about that statement.

Yes there are a few. However many more seem to "support" ACL.

And I do think labelling those who go to Sixfields as "weak" is controversial and unnecessary.

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[Nick]

I've met a few, heard a few on phone-ins and theferrett said that those he talked to inside the ground blamed the council and not our owners in the row (so supported their view in the most literal sense).

So its fair to assume some support the owners.

Now if you don't support the owners in moving to Sixfields but go anyway then I think its a fair claim to say you are weak as you are not following your beliefs. I don't think there's anything particularly controversial about that statement.

Listen to all of this belief and weak stuff, do you think petrol should be priced as it is for example? I believe it should be a lot cheaper so should I stop buying it on that basis? I can't as its a need, the same as some people have a need to watch the city.

 

[quinn1971]

Oh dear.Spectacular post.Well,my little fishing trip is over.What a place.So are we baldy headed shouty types or spotty teens.Back to the dark side for some grown up chat.

You really need to get out more..I think you'd be more than welcome on the dark side.not sure about getting any grown up chat on there though.

 

[DazzleTommyDazzle]

Oh dear.Spectacular post.Well,my little fishing trip is over.What a place.So are we baldy headed shouty types or spotty teens.Back to the dark side for some grown up chat.

The classic response to being beaten in debate.

"Ha ha, I was only winding you up - now I'm off"

Rather sad really.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

Why is it tedious? People keep justifying nopm etc by saying if nobody went we would be straight back in coventry as of it is a fact, this is coming from trust people as well but where had it come from?

because opinions are all we have...and are the cornerstone of most forums such as this.

 

[bigfatronssba]

Who supports the owners?

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Rfc, trueskyblue do for a start.

 

[Nick]

because opinions are all we have...and are the cornerstone of most forums such as this.

Again, so why is it being rolled out as fact by some people that if people don't go we will be back in coventry in no time? Why are emails from the trust being sent out saying don't go to games and it will help bring the club back?

 

[zuni]

bit like fisshers "we win they will come " line....not going damages sisu and the club...but may drive the game of bluff and double bluff to a faster resolution, by going it drags it out

 

[M&B Stand]

You know what your right. I can't be arsed.

I can't be arsed to travel 3 hours extra each fortnight and miss putting my daughter to bed. I can't be arsed handing good money over to an organisation that refuses to listen to its customers out of pigheadedness. I can't be arsed to further support big business taking the game I love away from its origins for no reason other than profit. I can't be arsed to go and support players who earn ten times what I'll ever earn who forced this move through continual wage demands and who will all be gone, including the manager by the time my club is back home. And most of all I can't be arsed to subject my daughter to an addiction to a bunch of arseholes who would do the same to her.

The fact is. It's not my job to keep me arsed, its the club's and they've shown me quite clearly they couldn't give a fuck whether I turn up or not.

Cheers for agreeing.

Who you actually angry with? Big business, players earning too much, managers, your daughters bedtime?

I think you've got issues much deeper than your hatred of the owners of Coventry City.

And if its putting an extra 3 hours on your journey, you need a new satnav!

 

[Deleted member 5849]

Now if you don't support the owners in moving to Sixfields but go anyway then I think its a fair claim to say you are weak as you are not following your beliefs. I don't think there's anything particularly controversial about that statement.

There is because where do you stop that?

Did people who went when we signed King all support sex offending?

Did people who went when Robinson was in charge all support a newmarket player investment plan?

Did people who went when McGinnity was suing Nev from GMK all support that action?

You can not support something, but think there is a different way to affect the outcome. Among many arguments there's a perfectly reasonable economic argument to be made that going, and keeping the club alive so it's in a position to move back is one reason to go, and that's not supporting the club being in Northampton.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

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Again, so why is it being rolled out as fact by some people that if people don't go we will be back in coventry in no time? Why are emails from the trust being sent out saying don't go to games and it will help bring the club back?

Did the suffragettes know they would win?
Did Churchill know good would prevail?

Sorry, probably different scale. I certainly wouldn't state as fact, never have.
Mine is somewhat of a forced opinion, no other choice. Sustaining ccfc outside of coventry by attending is a reasoned/reasonable argument opinion is it not?

 

[whiteheadj]

You aint half missing some entertainment.

Just a question,

Do you not think then, if not one ccfc fan had turned up for these first two games that sisu would have to completely reconsider playing at sixfeilds?

Just to inform you, the owners of ccfc have no interest in the football club. They thought they would be able to get the Ricoh relatively cheap if they owned ccfc. That is how they intended in making there money back. But now there tactics have gone wrong they think they can starve the Ricoh and buy it then.

This is proven by the fact that with all the revenue they are missing out on in terms of just tickets, they could have played at the Ricoh payed the 1.2 million a year rent and had cash to spare.

This is why I refuse to pay to watch my team away from coventry. There is no need for it. We could play in coventry and be better off. If they wanted to build a stadium they could have had a five year lease at the Ricoh and built it. But all there trying to do is starve the Ricoh.

Just look how fisher talks, do you think he cares about you having to travel to a shithole of a ground. I very much doubt it.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

dare I say constructive.

Dare it

 

[GaryPendrysEyes]

You aint half missing some entertainment.

I think you mean the 90%+ of Cov fans who see the importance of Coventry to the club, and keeping Cov in Cov.
Sisu rent boy.

 

[TurkeyTrot]

Listen to all of this belief and weak stuff, do you think petrol should be priced as it is for example? I believe it should be a lot cheaper so should I stop buying it on that basis? I can't as its a need, the same as some people have a need to watch the city.

What a stupid comment. There is a difference between a need and a want.

 

[Steve.B50]

Again, so why is it being rolled out as fact by some people that if people don't go we will be back in coventry in no time? Why are emails from the trust being sent out saying don't go to games and it will help bring the club back?

Hi Nick
Do not think its a fact that people are trying to get over, more of a personal view.
In my oppinion and only my personal view from the little contact I have had with the FL they believe they are doing whats right for football and they think that a percentage of supporters are in favour of the ground share. They cannot make changes unless things are seen to be drastically wrong, well a Sixfields almost empty would be seen as a major issue and an embarassment and would be discussed.
Might not change anything but fact its discuused at board level whould help.

Other options, some should not even be discusse but things have to happen?

 

[Nick]

Hi Nick
Do not think its a fact that people are trying to get over, more of a personal view.
In my oppinion and only my personal view from the little contact I have had with the FL they believe they are doing whats right for football and they think that a percentage of supporters are in favour of the ground share. They cannot make changes unless things are seen to be drastically wrong, well a Sixfields almost empty would be seen as a major issue and an embarassment and would be discussed.
Might not change anything but fact its discuused at board level whould help.

Other options, some should not even be discusse but things have to happen?

To be honest I said it at the ricoh there should be a designated game where it should be empty, not because it would starve sisu but because of the statement it would make.

I do think the nopm stuff is being pushed on people too much like it is a cult out secret club, so much so it probably is making the odd fan actually want to go.

I think the fl just wants games played and don't care if it is in front of a man and his dog.

 

[ajsccfc]

Sisu rent boy.

Weeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[Nick]

What a stupid comment. There is a difference between a need and a want.

So you don't think some people see it as a need to watch their football team? I don't think it is stupid to think that at all.

 

[GaryPendrysEyes]

Weeyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

err It was tongue in cheek--
Did you learn a lesson about sales and allocation btw??

 

[TurkeyTrot]

So you don't think some people see it as a need to watch their football team? I don't think it is stupid to think that at all.

It's not a need its a want.

 

[Nick]

It's not a need its a want.

So you are saying some fans don't see it as a need? Coming from a board member of the supporters trust?

I certainly have had seasons where it has been a NEED that I went to matches rather than a want.

 

[Steve.B50]

To be honest I said it at the ricoh there should be a designated game where it should be empty, not because it would starve sisu but because of the statement it would make.

I do think the nopm stuff is being pushed on people too much like it is a cult out secret club, so much so it probably is making the odd fan actually want to go.

I think the fl just wants games played and don't care if it is in front of a man and his dog.

You might be right Nick
But its at games away from Coventry that this needs to be done and seen.
The FL will only react if it affects them?
What can be done to make evryone look up and take a look at the mistakes that have been made from all sides?

I have my own ideas, but some will not agree but all suggestions have to be considerd.

 

[Nick]

The thing is though I don't think the FL have a care as long as the game is played, then when you start trying to stop getting games played you are in a bit of deep water...

 

[Steve.B50]

The thing is though I don't think the FL have a care as long as the game is played, then when you start trying to stop getting games played you are in a bit of deep water...

Stopping a game being played is not the answer.

 

[Nick]

Stopping a game being played is not the answer.

I know, as it just gives fans bad publicity but if it is all the FL care about thats the only way to bother them.

 

[Snozz_is_god]

So you are saying some fans don't see it as a need? Coming from a board member of the supporters trust?

I certainly have had seasons where it has been a NEED that I went to matches rather than a want.

Turkey is right, if you NEED to see football then you are one sad individual

 

[Nick]

Turkey is right, if you NEED to see football then you are one sad individual

ha ok, but going to London with a sign and standing outside an office makes it "cooler" than people "needing" to watch their team? Get a grip, thousands of football fans every week have it in their blood, they need to get their football fix. Surely this is what the whole protest is about? Football? People loving football? People needing football?

So if the people at the top of the trust see football as a "want" rather than a "need" they might not see the passion and love some people have and shouldn't be in that position, do fans really want to stand on a Tuesday night in sub zero temperatures watching their team get hammered? I doubt it, they need to because it is their team.

If watching Coventry City is just a little bit of a luxury that people want and not a need then we may as well give up now.

 

[Snozz_is_god]

The NEEDies go to sixfileds, like I say sad individuals & I might just add selfish to that....Sad, Needy, Selfish Individuals

 

[ajsccfc]

err It was tongue in cheek--
Did you learn a lesson about sales and allocation btw??

You mean where I asked why an allocation would be increased and got an immediate answer explaining it and that was it? If you really want to score points over me, I'm sure there are better examples to use than 'reasonable question greeted with reasonable answer'

 

[Nick]

Why is that sad and selfish? Is it sadder than people in their late 40's and 50's calling each other scabs? I doubt it.

Kind of ironic that a leader of a Supports Trust is saying football isn't really a need and is just a luxury.

 

[Steve.B50]

I know, as it just gives fans bad publicity but if it is all the FL care about thats the only way to bother them.

Get a few hundred to watch the game from the hill, arrive at 3pm, leave as soon as game was finished (to stop any verbal betwen fans).

Press, media, police, CCFC, Stewards and the FL would be asking what is going on?
Next game get even more on hill, till against Sheffield we have 1000 on hill in front of the sky camaras.

No one could turn a blind eye to this.

 

[Steve.B50]

Why is that sad and selfish? Is it sadder than people in their late 40's and 50's calling each other scabs? I doubt it.

Kind of ironic that a leader of a Supports Trust is saying football isn't really a need and is just a luxury.

Who is saying this?

 

[Nick]

So you don't think some people see it as a need to watch their football team? I don't think it is stupid to think that at all.

It's not a need its a want.

This bit....

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

Why is that sad and selfish? Is it sadder than people in their late 40's and 50's calling each other scabs? I doubt it.

Kind of ironic that a leader of a Supports Trust is saying football isn't really a need and is just a luxury.

Nick.
Google maslows hierachy of needs,
I take your general point. Your petroll analogy was a poor choice.