No thanks rugbys for puffs
No thanks rugbys for puffs
Rugby League is much better than union. Wigan Warriors are worth watching at the mo
ok do you know where I could find him?Go tell Martin Johnson
ok do you know where I could find him?
i always smile when the old rugger v football debate comes up.
Rugger fans always say what a noble game it is, how the players always respect the ref and never question his authority and how football could do well to learn from it. As commeneted earlier, the bloodgate episode pretty much blew the high moral ground from underneath rugger as it demonstrated how a club systematicaly cheated, from manager to medical staff and onto player. Thats a pretty sophisticated and organised deception that gets swept away with the suggestion that it was only one club. If one of the top football teams had set up such a deception we would be hearing about it for years!!
Its's also a game where attemptingto gouge out your opponents eyes is quite common. And yet the bite by Suarez (am in no way condoning it) is made out to be the sporting crime of the century!!
As for questioning the decissions of the ref, well I am all for it. Thats what makes football distinct and unlike rugger. I don't want to watch a game where all the players just nod their head every time the ref makes a decission. I think its healthy for them to question him if they think he has got it wrong.
i always smile when the old rugger v football debate comes up.
Rugger fans always say what a noble game it is, how the players always respect the ref and never question his authority and how football could do well to learn from it. As commeneted earlier, the bloodgate episode pretty much blew the high moral ground from underneath rugger as it demonstrated how a club systematicaly cheated, from manager to medical staff and onto player. Thats a pretty sophisticated and organised deception that gets swept away with the suggestion that it was only one club. If one of the top football teams had set up such a deception we would be hearing about it for years!!
Its's also a game where attemptingto gouge out your opponents eyes is quite common. And yet the bite by Suarez (am in no way condoning it) is made out to be the sporting crime of the century!!
As for questioning the decissions of the ref, well I am all for it. Thats what makes football distinct and unlike rugger. I don't want to watch a game where all the players just nod their head every time the ref makes a decission. I think its healthy for them to question him if they think he has got it wrong.
95% of the time, football players don't just 'question' the ref, there're 5-6 players in his face sometimes shouting and it's blatantly disrespectful. Also, no referee ever, in any sport that doesn't have 'appeal systems' has changed his/her mind because players have questioned their judgement, what the officials say, goes, in any sport.
The times to criticise refs decisions etc. should be after the match, and governing + refeering bodies should take necessary steps if officials perform to a sub-standard.
95% of the time, football players don't just 'question' the ref, there're 5-6 players in his face sometimes shouting and it's blatantly disrespectful. Also, no referee ever, in any sport that doesn't have 'appeal systems' has changed his/her mind because players have questioned their judgement, what the officials say, goes, in any sport.
The times to criticise refs decisions etc. should be after the match, and governing + refeering bodies should take necessary steps if officials perform to a sub-standard.
i always smile when the old rugger v football debate comes up.
Rugger fans always say what a noble game it is, how the players always respect the ref and never question his authority and how football could do well to learn from it. As commeneted earlier, the bloodgate episode pretty much blew the high moral ground from underneath rugger as it demonstrated how a club systematicaly cheated, from manager to medical staff and onto player. Thats a pretty sophisticated and organised deception that gets swept away with the suggestion that it was only one club. If one of the top football teams had set up such a deception we would be hearing about it for years!!
Its's also a game where attemptingto gouge out your opponents eyes is quite common. And yet the bite by Suarez (am in no way condoning it) is made out to be the sporting crime of the century!!
As for questioning the decissions of the ref, well I am all for it. Thats what makes football distinct and unlike rugger. I don't want to watch a game where all the players just nod their head every time the ref makes a decission. I think its healthy for them to question him if they think he has got it wrong.
Went to yesterday's double-header. Fantastic day out. There was loads of passion & singing (2nd game mostly). Wasps fans' wry smile at the end - needed a conversion to win, only to hit the inside of the near post & deflect outwards. Contrast that with what happens in football in those situations...vitriol directed at the player concerned & opposing fans would be in abundance. Yesterday loads of drink (inside the seating area!) 4 sets of fans (62000 total) & I'd be surprised if anyone was even ejected, let alone arrested! No hint of nonsense outside either - pleasant mingling & discussing things.
Recommend going to everyone.
My only sadness was that I didn't feel allegiance to any of the teams. If Cov RUFC get going again - who knows?
Can't stomach the superior attitude of Rugby followers. Always telling you about how they all mingle happily in the pub beforehand - yeah, and so do football supporters 99% of the time. What do they think we do, chuck bricks at each other every week?
As for Cov, that club has been plagued by mismanagement for years. Nothing short of a disgrace how one of country's biggest clubs once full of internationals has been able to slip to the third tier. Sound familiar? Although, their fall from grace has probably been more significant. Not that people criticise, they just turn up every week and pat themselves on the back about how inclusive it all is. Blood capsules don't matter, gouging is fine, stamping on someone's head is quickly forgiven, so too punching someone square on the jaw. Eric Cantona almost went to prison for kicking an abusive fan - a Rugby player in similar circumstances would have been given an MBE. Bad behaviour by Rugby players is all fine though, because after the game they all get wasted, stick their cocks in each others beer and sing vulgar songs. I know, I've played the game, and the stench of repressed homosexuality is overwhelming.
Tin hat on.
You had to give it up though, when you couldn't get your cock past the head on a decent pint ?????!!
Ha! That's all true.
I was being a bit mischievous, Rugby is a decent game and I wish Cov well and may pop down this season. The superior attitude does really grate though.
Not sure what you mean by that last line Bazza. Cov RFC are very much alive under complete new owners and management and although in the 3rd tier { Sounds familiar} its still a good afternoon at the BPA and the Cov crowds are the largest at that level. Football is my first love but I have a fondness for a few beers in Spon End pre match and another in my seat cheering on a Cov side playing near the City Centre !
Ha! That's all true.
I was being a bit mischievous, Rugby is a decent game and I wish Cov well and may pop down this season. The superior attitude does really grate though.
What I'm getting at is that IF I start supporting a rugby team...I want the emotional attachment - like I have for the skyblues. What I have attended so far the double-header & odd international - thoroughly enjoy (the aggression is on the pitch...the fun is off it). BUT I live on the S.Coast now - hardly likely that anyone would say to themselves "I'm going to start watching football...I know - I'll travel from here all the way to Coventry (I mean Northampton lol) to watch a league1 team". I have only felt the affiliation to England Rugby so far...Harlequins stirred me a bit as the fans seemed most passionate (Wasps support was a bit cheesy for my taste). I could get passionate supporting Cov Rugby - but to start off travelling 140 miles or so supporting them in L3??? Not going to be stirred enough I'm afraid.
Its about time CCFC & Coventry Rugby aligned themselves and worked under a single remit at the RICOHCov RFC are starting to rebuild, after years in the doldrums. I wouldn't get your hopes up, too much, of the sky blues moving in to the butts arena......the rugby club has two wealthy supporters that have each just pledged £1M into the development and infrastructure.
Rugby is a great game, football could learn a lot from the way players, etc, conduct themselves. Money is a big part in rugby, these days, but no where near the obscene levels that it is in football. As we have seen at CCFC, and the conduct of the authorities, money is paramount in soccer.......sport is second fiddle.
Its about time CCFC & Coventry Rugby aligned themselves and worked under a single remit at the RICOH
Agree. If the Ricoh is for the benefit of the citizens of Coventry why not make it the home of two of our most historic sporting teams.
Yes I know there are arguments against and obstacles to
overcome but it is feasible, potentially to everyone's benefit.
Can't stomach the superior attitude of Rugby followers. Always telling you about how they all mingle happily in the pub beforehand - yeah, and so do football supporters 99% of the time. What do they think we do, chuck bricks at each other every week?
As for Cov, that club has been plagued by mismanagement for years. Nothing short of a disgrace how one of country's biggest clubs once full of internationals has been able to slip to the third tier. Sound familiar? Although, their fall from grace has probably been more significant. Not that people criticise, they just turn up every week and pat themselves on the back about how inclusive it all is. Blood capsules don't matter, gouging is fine, stamping on someone's head is quickly forgiven, so too punching someone square on the jaw. Eric Cantona almost went to prison for kicking an abusive fan - a Rugby player in similar circumstances would have been given an MBE. Bad behaviour by Rugby players is all fine though, because after the game they all get wasted, stick their cocks in each others beer and sing vulgar songs. I know, I've played the game, and the stench of repressed homosexuality is overwhelming.
Tin hat on.
I'm sorry mate, but that's just utter rubbish. I don't know where you played, or where you watch, but that's not what I've seen. As for singing vulgar songs, you do occasionally go to footy, right?
Cov RFC's fall from grace came about by not being properly geared up for the professional era, and then spending too far, too fast when trying to catch up. The fans I sit next to when I go there don't whine about it, because they're happy to watch a game and see a team that's clearly improving. There's no back-slapping, that's in your head - there's just a different set of behaviour amongst rugby fans because that's the way it's always been. The battle is on the pitch rather than off it.
If you can find a single rugby fan anywhere who thinks that gouging is acceptable, or that the blood capsule thing wasn't a scandal, then I'd be amazed. Look at the bans that got handed down for that.
When I watch football though, I still regualrly see the most pathetic kind of cheating, diving, and I'm always amazed that it's considered acceptable. Ditto the way that refs and linos are treated by players. Personally, it dries me mad - not because I'm a rugby fan, but because I'm a football fan and it ruins the game (at least for me).
And what is this obsession about being gay - I thought we'd got past all that bullshit. If you've got issues with what you perceive as repressed homosexuality go talk to a counsellor, personally I don't think it should matter these days whether you're gay, straight or somewhere in between. To use it as an insult is a bit 1970s, to my mind.
Rugby was "invented" by a fat lad at a posh school who was shit at football....
.....and for that reason...I'm out.
Oh wind your neck in, I said in my following post I was being mischievous. It was all a tongue in cheek retort to the superior crap we've had to endure in this thread. The back-slapping is not in my head, it is in your posts.
Just to clarify, you totally misunderstood the repressed homosexuality comment, and let's be clear, CRFC have been very badly run for a very long time and the fact the fans don't whine about it is the reason the idiots in charge got away with it for so long (they almost made SISU look competent). I hope they have turned the corner, but I don't think the club will ever again be geared up for top class Rugby. A travesty really.