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covmark

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the millennium stadium also hosts loads of smaller events as does the ricoh just increase the number of those and job done.remember they could only hold so many because of football no restrictions now
why do you care so much about ACL, and how much money they make.
 

PIPSQUEEK

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I don't think so. We know that they would have been in a right mess if the council had not bought the loan.

Hardly a positive sign is it? Then we have an arena management company that survives on weddings and the odd two bit conference? They still have an arena to maintain. Very few major concerts and the main arena empty without purpose.

They won't last long.

The only reason they did not put on more concerts was beecause of the Football Season and how long it takes to arrect the stage and other things .

They only need to stage 2 more concerts to cover for CCFC not being there

And anyway i thought we were being Liquadated so it dont matter .
 

torchomatic

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Houdi

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why do you care so much about ACL, and how much money they make.
Well I presume it helps define the future.Some people think ACL can survive without CCFC, some people hope they can,whilst there are some people who think or maybe hope ACL can't survive without CCFC.
This has become the great unknown, and maybe will decide what ultimately happens.
If ACL can indeed survive even short to medium term, then they will effectively be able to call SISU's bluff. Fisher has always talked of moving on, and building and financing a new stadium. They can't stall on this forever.The majority of CCFC fans are already sceptical of Fisher's plans, as each week passes with no apparent movement on a new ground, Fishers credibility sinks lower.
However if ACL can't survive without CCFC, then of course a deal to sell or part sell ACL maybe struck. My view and it is only a guess is that ACL can survive in the short to medium term, and if that proves to be the case, what options do SISU actually have?
 

covmark

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Well I presume it helps define the future.Some people think ACL can survive without CCFC, some people hope they can,whilst there are some people who think or maybe hope ACL can't survive without CCFC.
This has become the great unknown, and maybe will decide what ultimately happens.
If ACL can indeed survive even short to medium term, then they will effectively be able to call SISU's bluff. Fisher has always talked of moving on, and building and financing a new stadium. They can't stall on this forever.The majority of CCFC fans are already sceptical of Fisher's plans, as each week passes with no apparent movement on a new ground, Fishers credibility sinks lower.
However if ACL can't survive without CCFC, then of course a deal to sell or part sell ACL maybe struck. My view and it is only a guess is that ACL can survive in the short to medium term, and if that proves toa be the case, what options do SISU actually have?
why would people hope ACL could survive without ccfc? Posters like the chap I quoted seem to rub their hands with glee at the fact ACL could survive without the club, I find this completely bizarre.
 

James Smith

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Odd, isn't it?

Especially as we've moved on and won't be considering the Ricoh

Tim said to Stuart Linnell on BBC CWR in May
Tim Fisher said:
"We have left the Ricoh Arena. We have moved on. We would not respond or engage in any talks (with ACL and City Council) we have moved on.
"My time now is spent with forward planning for the next three years and the next ten years in terms of what we propose to build.
"Our plans do not give any consideration for ACL
"We were forced out of the Ricoh we could not take the business risk and therefore we made our plans accordingly and we will fulfill those plans."
My bolding & underling
http://www.football.co.uk/coventry_city/we_have_moved_on_-_fisher_rss4218924.shtml

My concern despite Tim's comments is that they're secretly still hoping to go back and are basing all the plans on this, which is a worry if we can't go back.
 

Grendel

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why would people hope ACL could survive without ccfc? Posters like the chap I quoted seem to rub their hands with glee at the fact ACL could survive without the club, I find this completely bizarre.

I would have thought in the current scenario every CCFC fan is hoping ACL go bankrupt today.
 

torchomatic

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And now, I'm confused. I thought Fisher lied all the time? It seems he's not lying when it suits.

Moved on, my arse.

Especially as we've moved on and won't be considering the Ricoh

Tim said to Stuart Linnell on BBC CWR in May
My bolding & underling
http://www.football.co.uk/coventry_city/we_have_moved_on_-_fisher_rss4218924.shtml

My concern despite Tim's comments is that they're secretly still hoping to go back and are basing all the plans on this, which is a worry if we can't go back.
 
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James Smith

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And now, I'm confused. I thought Fisher lied all the time? It seems he's not lying when it suits.

Moved on, my arse.
Not sure anyone knows when he's bluffing and when he isn't anymore.
 

Grendel

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Not sure anyone knows when he's bluffing and when he isn't anymore.

But we do know people who believe him when it's convenient to do so.
 

Houdi

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why would people hope ACL could survive without ccfc? Posters like the chap I quoted seem to rub their hands with glee at the fact ACL could survive without the club, I find this completely bizarre.
But equally you may ask why are so many fans so concerned that SISU don't sell CCFC without making a loss.All fans want the club back at the Ricoh, but it seems clear the vast majority of fans want the club back but without SISU in charge. The losses SISU have made are their sole responsibility,they have had 100% control of the club. It seems some fans are more concerned with what's best for SISU, rather than what's best for CCFC. That by virtually giving them the Ricoh, they can then sell the club and stadium, and recoup their losses. Why should the Ricoh be used to subsidise SISU's losses?:
When SISU 'bought' the club were they concerned by the money allegedly lost by Robinson? No!
Do you think if SISU were buying the club now they would be offering to cover the existing owners losses? Not a hope in hell. I won't lose much sleep over ACL,but I certainly couldn't care less if SISU walked away with a huge loss, and I imagine I'm not alone.
 

lordsummerisle

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The only reason they did not put on more concerts was beecause of the Football Season and how long it takes to arrect the stage and other things .

They only need to stage 2 more concerts to cover for CCFC not being there

And anyway i thought we were being Liquadated so it dont matter .

Load of bollocks.
 

torchomatic

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James Smith

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But we do know people who believe him when it's convenient to do so.

Well I posted a thread where I said that we should just forget about the Ricoh and concentrate on the new stadium. http://www.skybluestalk.co.uk/threads/36408-Stuff-ACL-and-the-council-I-m-fed-up I said I wouldn't be very popular for this opinion but I did mean it, we should be concentrating on the new stadium. Tim said
Tim Fisher via CET said:
“People have to understand we do not posture, we do not threaten, because that is not how you do business, you only do business in good faith. Always."
http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-news/coventry-city-chief-left-ricoh-3869400

But then he hasn't delivered anything on our new stadium, no plans, no planning permission applications, no news etc. I want to see a new stadium and us in it but if you're reading this Tim, we need to have something to see that any progress has been made on the new stadium. Articles in the paper saying you're examining Badger droppings don't exactly amount to a hill of beans let alone a new stadium.

As the leader of our club he needs to stop with any BS if he has said anything that isn't 100% accurate and let us know what's really going on. It helps no one to make empty statements or say things that he has or the club have no intention of doing. If the plan is still to go back to the Ricoh then don't say it isn't and please provide us with something to show us that you're as committed to the new stadium as I hope you are.
 

torchomatic

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blueflint

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You're right, apologies from this arsehole:

http://www.ricoharena.com/business/business-events/

http://www.ricoharena.com/entertainment/entertainment-events/

http://www.ricoharena.com/sport/sport-events/

Anyone up for going to Engineering Materials Live! ?

Why so desperate to prove ACL are profitable?

However, going back to your original post. Is it really as easy as you make out setting up events at a large stadium?


i dont know i dont run that business just fed up with all the shit and sick of people always trying to prove the unprovable i can only state the obvious its not rocket science
 

ccfctommy

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You're right, apologies from this arsehole:

http://www.ricoharena.com/business/business-events/

http://www.ricoharena.com/entertainment/entertainment-events/

http://www.ricoharena.com/sport/sport-events/

Anyone up for going to Engineering Materials Live! ?

Why so desperate to prove ACL are profitable?

However, going back to your original post. Is it really as easy as you make out setting up events at a large stadium?

I might go along to the snooker. Stephen Lee has probably decided who will win but it should still be good.
 
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Jack Griffin

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why do you care so much about ACL, and how much money they make.

My sympathies are more with the Higgs Charity.. the objectives of which are
The objects of the Charity are: (a) Such charitable purposes as the Trustees may select which shall benefit wholly or mainly the inhabitants of the area within 25 miles of the centre of Coventry; (b) The Charity Fund shall be applied as far as may be practicable in the promotion of child welfare and particularly the welfare of under privileged children; (c) The Trustees of the Charity may co-operate with or contribute to any other charity having objects substantially similar to the objects of the Charity.
 

skybluetony176

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You're right, apologies from this arsehole:

http://www.ricoharena.com/business/business-events/

http://www.ricoharena.com/entertainment/entertainment-events/

http://www.ricoharena.com/sport/sport-events/

Anyone up for going to Engineering Materials Live! ?

Why so desperate to prove ACL are profitable?

However, going back to your original post. Is it really as easy as you make out setting up events at a large stadium?

i think we need to go to see psychic sally. here's a list of questions i want answers to.

are ccfc ever coming back to the ricoh?
if not are shitsu ever going to build a stadium?
can timmy lie straight in bed?
is joy diversion sincere?
is grendal a troll?
will we ever win the fa cup again?
will we ever get out of this division?
will SP stay for the long haul?

EDIT) just thought of another one. will shitsu ever post their 2012/13 books :laugh:
 
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Grendel

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My sympathies are more with the Higgs Charity.. the objectives of which are

Why charity begins at home -- and I want CCFC at home -- and I could not care less about implications for anyone.
 

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