Should I go or not (2 Viewers)
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Nick
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Until you can prove to me 100% that by going in it is hurting the club I think it is up to people if they want to without all the preaching.
Skybluepiglet
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Here is the Cov City Supporters CD Song For every Occasion Album
1. Should I Stay Or Should I Go - Clash
2. Fool On The Hill - Beatles
3. The Fisher King Blues - Frank Turner
4. Far Away From Home - Will I AM & Nicole Scherzinger
5. Irish Jigs (The Cobblers , The Rovers Return) - Son Ha Koroll
6. She's Lost Control - Joy Division
7. Goodbye Blue Sky - Pink Floyd
8. Our Hearts Of Ruin - Blue Sky Black Death
9. Out In The (Six)Fields - Gary Moore & Phil Lynnot
10. We Shed A Tear - Jools Holland (Sixfields Shed Remix)
11. Come Back Home - Two Door Cinema Club
12. Ain't No Love In The Heart Of The City - Whitesnake
13. The Lost City - The Shadows
1. Should I Stay Or Should I Go - Clash
2. Fool On The Hill - Beatles
3. The Fisher King Blues - Frank Turner
4. Far Away From Home - Will I AM & Nicole Scherzinger
5. Irish Jigs (The Cobblers , The Rovers Return) - Son Ha Koroll
6. She's Lost Control - Joy Division
7. Goodbye Blue Sky - Pink Floyd
8. Our Hearts Of Ruin - Blue Sky Black Death
9. Out In The (Six)Fields - Gary Moore & Phil Lynnot
10. We Shed A Tear - Jools Holland (Sixfields Shed Remix)
11. Come Back Home - Two Door Cinema Club
12. Ain't No Love In The Heart Of The City - Whitesnake
13. The Lost City - The Shadows
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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It's simple. If zero fans turned up; the farce would have to cease. If 10K go, Fisher will see this as vindication to do exactly as he pleases.
Every person who attends shifts the dynamic from the former to the latter
italiahorse
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You need to go and see the view from the hill. Hardly a free view. Almost certainly people are protesting and if lucky catching a glimpse of the ball now and again.
Why can't people just get on with what they want to do in their own futile attempt to change the situation. After all we are 'all' just pawns in this game of chess between SISU and ACL.
Personally I would not feel happy being inside Sixfields with that pompous twat fisher looking down on me. My feelings for supporting the team would be far outweighed by giving the impression I am rubber stamping SISU's plans.
I Feel better just going away and maybe in future standing on the hill. When it is all over I will feel in my own small way that I did the right thing.
Nick
Administrator
And if no fans went the farce would cease probably, the club....
Still no proof to say that by not going it will bring us back to coventry is there?
torchomatic
Well-Known Member
I totally agree. As I keep saying and saying 9000 do not go at all. Around a thousand or so have decided to, not ideal, but it's up to them. And then there are the hundred or so that are inbetween and who are the worst of the lot in my opinion. It's neither one thing or the other and despite the (and I'll use Nick's word here) preaching from many, including the Trust and NoPM/KCiC or whoever they are, they still turn up and watch the game for free while trying to fool everyone it's a protest. If you want to protest then don't turn up. As you say, it's simple.
As it stands the club is there for three years, probably longer, NoPM isn't and never will work.
As it stands the club is there for three years, probably longer, NoPM isn't and never will work.
italiahorse
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But does Michael really go on the hill ?
He could be just ridiculing those on the hill by saying he's there !! After all I only go to Sixfields with my family because we get free tickets.
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Deleted member 5849
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Only because the dominant discourse says so, and it's too inflexible to present it in any other way.
Skybluepiglet
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And I Only don't go cus I can't get free tickets 
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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I remember you stating on here that we'd be at the Ricoh this season; and the ground search was a red herring. Well, we're not.
Without a clear, clear message, this disgusting downward spiral will continue. Those who attend with weak excuses or disclaimers are exactly what Fisher wants. Join them if you wish; and feel the weight of Fisher's sanctimonious smile bearing down upon your company
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Deleted member 5849
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And the clear message is one of apathy, at the moment.
Nick
Administrator
I do think it is one massive game of poker still... I also remember you stating thorn was good do people can have different opinions
I don't state things as fact, just opinion. Why would I have to feel the weight of his smile?
Nobody is attending with weak excuses or disclaimers, they just want to go.
Skybluepiglet
New Member
Who is apathetic..the Sixfield attendees..the hill dwellers..the NOPM..who exactly?
Mary_Mungo_Midge
Well-Known Member
I disagree. Most fans have sent out a clear message by withholding their patronage. Don't forget; this isn't just a game, it's a social event, deep seated in the psyche of successive generations of ardent fan. Not going is damn hurting.
The most visible apathy is shown by those who try and innocently excuse they can't help themselves turning up; irrespective of how low our owners stoop
ohitsaidwalker king power
Well-Known Member
Did he- Michael said he goes not to protest but to watch the football.... stated it verbatim- clear?
Hobo
Well-Known Member
As sent out by you, maybe?
Nick
Administrator
I think his words were that it wasn't a protest
italiahorse
Well-Known Member
But surely by 9000 not going inside Sixfields it is 'definitely' showing people that the majority are not happy with the situation.
Whilst 1000 people going in only 'maybe' says that they are happy with the situation.
It is difficult to say what is best.
Maybe a full house at Sixfields would be better in respect that ACL would have to do something. Could be construed by ACL that non attendance means we are happy with what ACL are doing.
Just do what you feel best and respect others. We both could be right.
Mary_Mungo_Midge
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I do think it is one massive game of poker still... I also remember you stating thorn was good do people can have different opinions
Why would I have to feel the weight of his smile?
Nobody is attending with weak excuses or disclaimers, they just want to go.
I think if your memory serves you well; you'll recall that I thought Thorn was never given a chance by the administration he worked with.
Whereas I now feel the football club doesn't have a chance with the same owners.
There is no good reason why this football team in not playing in the city who's name it bears.
It's owners need to hear how reprehensible it's actions are. If you can't bring yourself to demonstrate, you can bring yourself to choose to abstain. But tacit support? Neh; couldn't live with myself
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Deleted member 5849
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The individual feeling can be different to the representation.
At the moment it looks like nobody can be bothered.
@ Piglet - everybody.
Nobody turns up for games, nobody turns up for the hill... those that do turn up are mere specks and pinpricks so their being drifts by on the breeze... and people are so busy trying to prove themselves the superior fan in some sickening disgusting hypocritical nonsensical way, that any hope of arranging some kind of positive, proactive, inclusive statement drifts aimlessly by.
So instead of actually having a statement that WE are Coventry... instead we have small numbers of nothing, sending a message to the world that we don't care. And the sad thing is instead of doing something about it, it becomes a dick waving contest on who's suffering most because they went longest, who's the most Hitleresque clone for going to the games, who's the most heroic by standing proud on a hill, who's the tightest fistiest by standing on a hill to watch a game for free.
And what's the result of that? A vision of emptiness, along with a portrayal of ALL banks of Coventry City fans, whatever their choice, showing them in a negative light. And the people showing them in this light are... Coventry City fans!
You couldn't make it up:facepalm:
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Deleted member 5849
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Good God, I agree with you!
Paxman II
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That's just rubbish.
king Power replied to me eloquently and stated his feelings and I respect that. However while I have stated many times on here the lions share of blame is with SISU, the fact is there is blame on all sides or we would not be where we are. Learning to accept truth is what makes you humble. Denying it will achieve nothing as you perpetuate a belief that you hold personally without 100% knowledge of all the facts.
The alleged conversation Joy had with a newspaper selling to the mass of supporters could be interpreted differently depending who reads them and their interpretation. It's a bit like saying we are not selling the player at any price then they sell him because the comment was said to deliberately inflate the price further - in other words to bluff/exaggerate/spoken as a ploy to achieving something later. We all do it in life.
Here's what I believe at the moment:
1. They will indeed fund the club the next 3 years if required (so NOPM is obsolete)
2. They will return to Coventry, preferable sooner rather than later.
3. They have corrected so many mistakes of the past and put in place building blocks for a future and key to that is a stadium they can have rights to hence this hard line stance but regrettably necessary.
4. They either firmly believe they will build a stadium or return to the Ricoh at some point after all other avenues have finally been exhausted, such as the JR. We will see more action once this has been heard.
5. Eventually the tide will turn against ACL and the council and focus will be on all parties to find a solution.
One last word. If the protesters were so adamant then why are they not on the Hill in their thousands or better still, outside the Ricoh Arena in their thousands on match days demonstrating to ACL and SISU what they are all missing? Too many are passive in the protest because a lot can't afford time and money to go to Sixfield's no doubt which I fully sympathise with, and others simply say NOPM but stay at home or go shopping with the wife while waiting for the inevitable return.
Skybluepiglet
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Northern Wis dumb
Any other set of supporters in our position would be split ...
None of this is black & white..you seem to suggest otherwise .
Any other set of supporters in our position would be split ...
None of this is black & white..you seem to suggest otherwise .
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Deleted member 5849
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Ah the cheap insult, cunningly proving my point.
How you get black & white from that fuck knows, but from somebody who joined here saying they were going but wanted to be persuaded not to, and a mere couple of posts later became one of the most virulant NOPMs going... it appears you like your binary opposites and compartmentalising.
johnb
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Or like me and many others, go to away games only.
torchomatic
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Skybluepiglet
New Member
LOL ..that is funny.
But being serious . How do you propose to not appear apathetic..I can tell you hand on heart I still care so very much about CCFC.
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Deleted member 5849
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I'll see you at Sheffield Utd then, yes?
Fancy a lift? which part of Coventry you from?
ohitsaidwalker king power
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I was asking a question not making a statement- have asked Michael to clarify.
Skybluepiglet
New Member
I will watch it on Sky (Although Stuart Linell says I shouldn't)
I don't live in Coventry .. just like the team
I don't live in Coventry .. just like the team
torchomatic
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Deleted member 5849
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So more portrayal of apathy then.
It can be a chance for you to visit relatives after the event, or go back to your place of birth before or after taking a chance to state we're Coventry in front of a TV audience.
But if we all watch it on Sky instead nobody will ever know we care, because there'll be nobody to say we do.
Skybluepiglet
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If no Cov fans are there it will prove we dont support a move away from Cov.
I can't go..my relatives are coming round that afternoon.
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Deleted member 5849
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Be a bit rude to ignore them and watch a game on Sky then
Anyway, much as I've enjoyed this tete a tete, you've reminded me that schmeee wants something on the use of PR strategies so I must say adieu