This plan might work but...... (3 Viewers)

[Grendel]

I have a hypothesis to consider. Now, I know there is a risk this will descend into the normal name calling but I am putting it out for discussion (I'm sure someone else once mentioned it actually)

NOPM will not work - gates are lower than expected, an apparent "improved" offer to return is rejected and not even offered directly.

Sisu resent the councils clumsy attempts to remove them, ACL and the council clearly despise the current owners.

We are no nearer to returning than on day one.

So, what can be done? We could be looking at this from the wrong angle. We are in Northampton but do the local public even know we are there?

Imagine if we did regularly get a full house there? Imagine if it was over subscribed? No parking, public transport and railway station full every other week. Regular escorts of fans from town ino the stadium. Suddenly to the non football fans in the community we become a nuisance and the community in turn will pressurise their council and club to end the deal. In turn this would make ground share in other towns difficult.

It's high risk but something has to be done. Other strategies are failing. Noisy protests could also continue in the ground itself.

Back on planet earth this will of course not happen but if it had from the start and it proved legistucally impossible to hold the games with general disturbance issues it may have had a more positive effect than the doomed NOPM campaign.

 

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[Rusty Trombone]

Are you going to go?

 

[Grendel]

Are you going to go?

Only if people decided the situation I describe would work (which they will not). I am convinced we are running out of time now.

 

[sky blue john]

No thanks !!!
The current nopm plan is working fine !!!!
Sisu are in disarray which Im sure your disappointed with but that's the way it goes !!!

 

[pusbccfc]

Theres a core of 3/4000 that would not step foot in Sixfields for a home game.

 

[Rusty Trombone]

Certainly running out of time for anything positive to happen, the negative stuff will probably be going on for a long time yet though.

 

[Deleted member 5849]

The practical problem with your suggestion is most aren't going because of NOPM or whatever, but because it's not convenient, they can't just stroll up or hop on a local bus.

So not sure it's possible to get the numbers there regularly to make it effective.

 

[Grendel]

No thanks !!!
The current nopm plan is working fine !!!!
Sisu are in disarray which Im sure your disappointed with but that's the way it goes !!!

Typically juvenile contribution - its not working at all or they would be back.

 

[Grendel]

The practical problem with your suggestion is most aren't going because of NOPM or whatever, but because it's not convenient, they can't just stroll up or hop on a local bus.

So not sure it's possible to get the numbers there regularly to make it effective.

I agree that is probably correct but I think without a return by may we may be gone.

 

[ohitsaidwalker king power]

G- Firstly; Regretably I am beginning to fast conclude that perhaps that NOPM will not work- I think SISU's strategy for Ricoh freehold acquisition(and the profit within) factors the undoubted increased losses at Sixfiled as an acceptable business cost.
I suspect though that many, like me, somewhat fell into the NOMP mandate by default- I don't/wont go to Sixfields as a protest- I vote with my feet if you like rather than a concious withdrawal of funds from SISU coffers. My principles setting my compass.

So to your suggestion- it is an alternate hypothesis, I grant you; but one I cannot entertain and I suspect by many others(90%) for reasons above.

 

[Lorksalordy]

Not sure "most" are not going due to inconvenience. I think a significant number are in a category of could go but just think it is wrong and so are showing that by non attendance. This does not have to be any banner - NOPM, KCIC etc.

 

[Delboycov]

Theres a core of 3/4000 that would not step foot in Sixfields for a home game.

I think numbers of hardcore fans who will never set foot in Sixfields is considerably higher than that....

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I agree that is probably correct but I think without a return by may we may be gone.

Maybe so, and I'm all for proactive rather than passive but they either need to be in Coventry, to make it as easy as possible to capture the market, or on the football league offices, somewhere that draws attention beyond regional, and also has a hope of getting fans of other clubs along in sympathy.

 

[Grendel]

Not sure "most" are not going due to inconvenience. I think a significant number are in a category of could go but just think it is wrong and so are showing that by non attendance. This does not have to be any banner - NOPM, KCIC etc.

It's not too inconvenient for me to go I just think its absurd to be playing there. However, time is I think running out
There will be no new ground and its highly questionable that we will renew our lease at Sixfields next season either. If this was made a no option scenario before the end of the season then there may some hope of a deal struck.

 

[covhead1]

I have a hypothesis to consider. Now, I know there is a risk this will descend into the normal name calling but I am putting it out for discussion (I'm sure someone else once mentioned it actually)

NOPM will not work - gates are lower than expected, an apparent "improved" offer to return is rejected and not even offered directly.

Sisu resent the councils clumsy attempts to remove them, ACL and the council clearly despise the current owners.

We are no nearer to returning than on day one.

So, what can be done? We could be looking at this from the wrong angle. We are in Northampton but do the local public even know we are there?

Imagine if we did regularly get a full house there? Imagine if it was over subscribed? No parking, public transport and railway station full every other week. Regular escorts of fans from town ino the stadium. Suddenly to the non football fans in the community we become a nuisance and the community in turn will pressurise their council and club to end the deal. In turn this would make ground share in other towns difficult.

It's high risk but something has to be done. Other strategies are failing. Noisy protests could also continue in the ground itself.

Back on planet earth this will of course not happen but if it had from the start and it proved legistucally impossible to hold the games with general disturbance issues it may have had a more positive effect than the doomed NOPM campaign.

This is music to the ears of RFC!, i'm sure Fravs loves it too :jerkit:

 

[Grendel]

This is music to the ears of RFC!, i'm sure Fravs loves it too :jerkit:

A typically intelligent response.

 

[wingy]

I think a better Idea would be for the 7-8K that don't go descending on the FA headquarters would get our message over better ,might even get support from other supporters through Supporters Direct .I get what you're saying , but I think the message would get skewed as Tacit approval .NOPM as a Banner Is'nt really necessary as the boycott Is self generated for the reason we all know "The Move",However It probably Is required in the eyes of SISU otherwise we appear as a bunch of disparate individuals ,who can be marketed back in.

 

[valiant15]

How do you mean time is running out?

Are you saying that you think sisu will liquidate the football club if they don't get the Ricoh?

 

[Deleted member 5849]

I think a better Idea would be for the 7-8K that don't go descending on the FA headquarters would get our message over better ,might even get support from other supporters through Supporters Direct

We really, really missed a chance in not descending on the football league first day of the season. It came to something when a Northampton fan was prime agitator to get us to do that!

Not too late, but a bit of time spent finding the best day to pop down, building awareness and anticipation of such an event, getting the message right...

No reason you couldn't take a fair few. if 7,000 fancy a day out in milton keynes, surely 4,000 fancying a day out in London isn't unreasonable if done peoperly?

 

[Grendel]

How do you mean time is running out?

Are you saying that you think sisu will liquidate the football club if they don't get the Ricoh?

Almost certainly.

 

[ConnorDevine]

why are you so keen to forgive SISU?

What happens when we return to the ricoh and the championship with SISU at the helm? do you just forgive them and forget about how they ran the club you care about into the ground just because they have undone the damage they did?

If someone came to your house and destroyed it with a sledgehammer and then a year later came back and repaired it all to how it was you wouldn't trust them just because they undid the damage would you?

 

[Spionkop]

NOPM, call it what you will is working. We will see a sub 1,000 gate this season. Sisu will be losing considerable amounts of money. Us fans know this.
Sisu like to make money, their investors will not be happy bunnies.
The boycott is working.
This packing the Northampton ground out (with a peaceful disruptive protest) might have worked earlier in the season, but CCFC fans have turned their backs on this. Be it through apathy, downright hostility, you tell me. That time has gone.

 

[wingy]

It's not too inconvenient for me to go I just think its absurd to be playing there. However, time is I think running out
There will be no new ground and its highly questionable that we will renew our lease at Sixfields next season either. If this was made a no option scenario before the end of the season then there may some hope of a deal struck.

This Is one area i don't really get around your response to the situation .
That you would accept all they are doing /have done In the aim of the Prize ,at whatever cost locally ,I just don't understand why you are not going ,as you undoubtedly are a long term fan who only cares about CCFC.

 

[dongonzalos]

I have a hypothesis to consider. Now, I know there is a risk this will descend into the normal name calling but I am putting it out for discussion (I'm sure someone else once mentioned it actually)

NOPM will not work - gates are lower than expected, an apparent "improved" offer to return is rejected and not even offered directly.

Sisu resent the councils clumsy attempts to remove them, ACL and the council clearly despise the current owners.

We are no nearer to returning than on day one.

So, what can be done? We could be looking at this from the wrong angle. We are in Northampton but do the local public even know we are there?

Imagine if we did regularly get a full house there? Imagine if it was over subscribed? No parking, public transport and railway station full every other week. Regular escorts of fans from town ino the stadium. Suddenly to the non football fans in the community we become a nuisance and the community in turn will pressurise their council and club to end the deal. In turn this would make ground share in other towns difficult.

It's high risk but something has to be done. Other strategies are failing. Noisy protests could also continue in the ground itself.

Back on planet earth this will of course not happen but if it had from the start and it proved legistucally impossible to hold the games with general disturbance issues it may have had a more positive effect than the doomed NOPM campaign.

I am a little confused

The group of 30 people plus one journalist who are trying to pressurise the council to sell the Ricoh. Despite the club making no offer for it.

Is not one of their main points about the money that is currently lost in the local economy. By not having 10-15k fans descending every second week?

Why would such business be seen as a good thing for Coventry but not for Northampton?

You SISU loving slum dog.

 

[dongonzalos]

Almost certainly.

It is available to be bought at cut price before it can be liquidated surely?

 

[Sky Blue Kid]

@ Grenduffy.....If what you suggest ever happens, we can kiss goodbye to CCFC ever returning to Coventry. Rushden and Diamonds or even Northampton's ground would be bought and CCFC would become "Sky Blue Diamonds" or "Sky Blue Cobblers" Nought out of ten...must do better Grenduffy!

 

[valiant15]

Almost certainly.

Surely that would be done out of spite by sisu? I assumed they would get more money for the club by getting what they could for it then walking away.

 

[sky blue john]

Typically juvenile contribution - its not working at all or they would be back.

It is working and that's probably what pisses on your chips !!!
Amazing that you resort insults instantly !!!
Nopm was always going to take longer than six months maybe you were not clever enough to realize !!!!

 

[blueflint]

not in a month of sundays

 

[lewys33]

Ridiculous idea. We get on average 10,000 in this league at the ricoh. So 1. you would have to tempt everyone to try and go to over-subscribe. 2. Why on earth would the council just approve an increase in capacity of sixfields if they are worried about "too many people" turn up? 3. The rugby ground is hardly miles away from sixfields and that regularly gets more than 10,000 a game. So why would they be bothered? Pointless idea.

 

[whiteheadj]

NOPM, call it what you will is working. We will see a sub 1,000 gate this season. Sisu will be losing considerable amounts of money. Us fans know this.
Sisu like to make money, their investors will not be happy bunnies.
The boycott is working.
This packing the Northampton ground out (with a peaceful disruptive protest) might have worked earlier in the season, but CCFC fans have turned their backs on this. Be it through apathy, downright hostility, you tell me. That time has gone.

Exactly, nopm is working and all sisu can do is threaten legal action against anyone. The thing is the one thing us fans can do which they can do nothing about is not let them have our money.

You see what I don't understand is people are trying to persuade 10 thousand to go and give sisu there money, instead of persuading the 800 fans that fund sisu to not go.

If no one paid anything to sisu they would have no option but move back (that is unless of course they don't care about the football club or the fans) in which case we would then clearly see them for the bully's they are.

 

[SkyBlue_Bear83]

Your main argument has merit, it seems no amount of pressure that we put on SISU are going to effect SISU in the slightest. They will just keep plodding along on with their plan regardless of what we say or do.

Pressure has to be put on other parties to end this fiasco like ACL, Northampton, Football league.

 

[Ashdown1]

Ridiculous to expect us the fans to pay with our hard earned for their decision. It would just add weight to their justification for dragging us down to that backwater !

 

[italiahorse]

NOPM is working, it just takes time to wear the bsatards down.
Susue are trying to wear both the fans and ACL down but we are still united in our struggle against their greedy and selfish business practices.

 

[wingy]

We really, really missed a chance in not descending on the football league first day of the season. It came to something when a Northampton fan was prime agitator to get us to do that!

Not too late, but a bit of time spent finding the best day to pop down, building awareness and anticipation of such an event, getting the message right...

No reason you couldn't take a fair few. if 7,000 fancy a day out in milton keynes, surely 4,000 fancying a day out in London isn't unreasonable if done peoperly?

Maybe we could unite this with taking in a Wimbledon Match ,to show solidarity and a payback for all the money Winkleman got ,not suggesting there was any Hypocrisy in that by the way ,as the message since proves to have highlighted the wrongs of the current debacle.

Might expand our numbers also If they were on side In the capital .